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myk 2010-05-03 00:40

Re: Is PR1.2 RC disappointing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 639426)
Are we talking about that half baked month-old leak that toasted many user's N900

It takes Nokia a long time to approve a release candidate. Don't be too shocked if the official release turns out the be the same, or close to it.

nermaljcat 2010-05-03 00:46

Re: Major speedup for Fennec after PR1.2
 
Standard 600MHz N900 running default (mozilla?) browser: 8856

Looking forward to using PR1.2 :)

jakiman 2010-05-03 00:47

Re: Is PR1.2 RC disappointing?
 
Half baked or not, the leaked PR1.1.947723499823 is better than the PR1.1.1.

Some thing which I really like are:
1. Phone app orientation can be fixed to landscape or portrait and it works.
2. Can hold the key to get it to type the blue symbol.
3. Proper back button in browser.
4. 90MB free rootfs with many apps and all repositories enabled.

It makes me more excited about the upcoming official release. :)

HellFlyer 2010-05-03 00:52

Re: Is PR1.2 RC disappointing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by h3llraz0r (Post 639417)
Did you expect more features or is it exactly what you thought it would be?

Sorry but either you are an idiot who thinks half baked beta PR 1.2 was going to be super cool or you are just trolling and opened this useless thread!

PR 1.2 IS NOT RELEASED YET! LEAKED VERSION IS UNFINISHED




More who created threads :mad:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...d=1#post639481


http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...384#post638384

ste-phan 2010-05-03 00:52

Re: Is PR1.2 RC disappointing?
 
No not disappointing. PR1.2 is great!
I second the findings of buxz777 and other users saying it works well.

The MicroB browser now handles certain complicated websites better without complaints and the back button greatly enhances the surfing comfort.

Flashing or not? It doesn't seem to be dangerous unless the next and final firmware will ALSO no longer flash the GSM radio correctly. It is up to you.
I remember this to be deemed a tweakers phone, and if you really are a tweaker flashing the thing to ashes in an attempt to reach the highest ... should be your greatest joy. Some of the whiners (?) are now calling people idiots for flashing their devices. They exaggerate a little and if it weren't for those daring idiots they wouldn't have any wisdom to spray around right now.

telnet 2010-05-03 00:55

Re: Is PR1.2 RC disappointing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jakiman (Post 639478)
half baked or not, it's better than the pr1.1.1.

Some thing which i really like are:
1. Phone app orientation can be fixed to landscape or portrait and it works.
2. Can hold the key to get it to type the blue symbol.
3. Proper back button in browser.
4. 90mb free rootfs with many apps and all repositories enabled.

point 4 !!!! Wow!!!!!!!!

Andy214 2010-05-03 01:00

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy214 (Post 638358)
I didn't say MeeGo release = a firmware update.

They're serious and work hard on MeeGo release, there's even accurate information on the previous release.

Who doesn't know it's still under testing? It will take a long time if they're planning a major update, perhaps they should make more minor updates to fix some of the bugs that is annoying in PR1.1.1

As for current "unofficial" PR1.2 or RC version, as mentioned in that thread, only the person having that problem, so I'm not sure if it is because of the update.
But I have another problem with this PR1.2:
1. The previous OVI Store and Maemo icon/shortcut (which have frame like Bookmarks, was no longer available; The icons show some green thing, after I remove and re-add them again, it now shows a normal shortcut icon without the frame.
2. Seems there is a bug in the 4th Desktop, after I customize the Desktop, I click "Done", but it didn't return to normal, still in customization mode, when I hit the middle top, it shows the battery, clock, alarm, etc as if it was already in normal mode.
I found a solution for this by swiping to the main desktop, it's still in Customization mode, press the power button once to bring up the menu, cancel it and press "DONE". Now it's ok.

I found the reason for part 2:
It was caused by OM Weather widget. Not sure why, the widget was on my 4th Desktop since PR1.1.1. Now, after I remove the widget, it was OK, then I re-add again, it was still OK. Probably there is some changes from previous version that cause some instability/incompatibility.

hellnick 2010-05-03 01:10

Re: Is PR1.2 RC disappointing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HellFlyer (Post 639483)

More *****s who created threads :mad:

Do you really think you are contributing anything by calling people *****s?

deny_winarto 2010-05-03 01:13

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
Any improvements for the camera?
Does it still give you hazy images?
http://forums.internettablettalk.com...ad.php?t=36675

It's my biggest dissapointment, and i hope they'd fix it

HellFlyer 2010-05-03 01:27

Re: Is PR1.2 RC disappointing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hellnick (Post 639506)
Do you really think you are contributing anything by calling people *****s?

Of course not but its the only way to describe someone who rushed to do such stupid thing. I mean If you are willing to take a risk and flash your device with unfinished/beta software without knowing how to undo/reflash it .... hence ***** or idiot fits perfectly :)

viraptor 2010-05-03 01:32

Re: Is PR1.2 RC disappointing?
 
Quote:

Is PR1.2 RC disappointing?
Not at all! I'm happy to run it.
I just hope that rearranging the icons in the app menu works better in the final version. Right now, it's a usability nightmare - you have to click on an icon X and the one you selected before is inserted after X. It should be done like in iPhone (IIRC) - hovering icon, pushing other icons aside, so that you actually drop your icon in between others.

rawutt 2010-05-03 01:33

Re: Is PR1.2 RC disappointing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HellFlyer (Post 639483)
Sorry but either you are an idiot who thinks half baked beta PR 1.2 was going to be super cool or you are just trolling and opened this useless thread!

PR 1.2 IS NOT RELEASED YET! LEAKED VERSION IS UNFINISHED




More *****s who created threads :mad:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...d=1#post639481


http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...384#post638384


imHo, ur signature doesn't suit u..

thommy 2010-05-03 01:39

Re: Is PR1.2 RC disappointing?
 
why are so many people so negative and bitter? for me, 1.2rc is waaayyy better. use it!!!

Andy214 2010-05-03 01:44

Re: Is PR1.2 RC disappointing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jakiman (Post 639478)
Half baked or not, the leaked PR1.1.947723499823 is better than the PR1.1.1.

Some thing which I really like are:
1. Phone app orientation can be fixed to landscape or portrait and it works.
2. Can hold the key to get it to type the blue symbol.
3. Proper back button in browser.
4. 90MB free rootfs with many apps and all repositories enabled.

It makes me more excited about the upcoming official release. :)

Definitely better, no doubt about that.

As for point 4. With all the apps I install previously in PR1.1.1, I have less than 30MB free rootfs.
Now, I have more than 80MB free rootfs. The only missing app is Brain Party.

Ronaldo 2010-05-03 01:46

Re: Is PR1.2 RC disappointing?
 
too many moaning people, if some of these guys didnt take the risk and test it how would we know? isn't testing things like this what makes this OS so great? there is always risk but since n900 is like a pc you can always some how reinstall the OS and get it working.

kudos to ones who tried it and provided the info for the rest of us.

nosa101 2010-05-03 01:50

Re: Is PR1.2 RC disappointing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronaldo (Post 639527)
too many moaning people, if some of these guys didnt take the risk and test it how would we know? isn't testing things like this what makes this OS so great? there is always risk but since n900 is like a pc you can always some how reinstall the OS and get it working.

kudos to ones who tried it and provided the info for the rest of us.

it is one thing to test and it is another to come back crying that your device went to ****.

Are any of these "testers" filling bug reports?

Monniman 2010-05-03 01:52

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by casper27 (Post 639138)
They were set to false ran
http://browsermark.rightware.com/bro...action?key=3RG

Running 850mhz enchanced kernel

Jit set to false - 14300
Jit set to true - 17451


Quite an improvement thanks for the tip.


Did that too and sped up the browser abit BUT
causes the GMAIL startup script to get stuck.

So INCASE you need to use gmail with the browser, better leave jits set to false...

... if you don't need gmail then go for it.

Ronaldo 2010-05-03 01:58

Re: Is PR1.2 RC disappointing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nosa101 (Post 639532)
it is one thing to test and it is another to come back crying that your device went to ****.

Are any of these "testers" filling bug reports?

they are trying to fix a problem which occurred because it wasnt complete or not deisgned for region but a brand new n900 out of the box had issues, some people got reboot loop, they came here crying that they bought a **** peice of kit?

they got advice of memebers and sorted the problem.......


if some one installed the leak fw and they said n900 is **** because the firmware sucks then its a different story but the ones that tried it cry like that.

mybsearch 2010-05-03 02:03

Re: Is PR1.2 RC disappointing?
 
Well all i can say is that i flashed last night and so far everything has been good. No major problems (sorry for the people that are having problems) Yes there is a lot more space free on rootfs, even with devel & extras enabled and almost all the applications restored i have about 92 mb free. I even flashed titan's 950/500 kernel and disabled all the transitions (i prefer speed over eye candy) and the phone is super fast. The only problem i faced once is that the phone was saying no Sim card inserted, just turned the phone off and back on the problem hasn't happened so far. The problem happened about 3 hours back, i will come back and update if i have any more problems. For other people i would say if you can wait for the official release good. If not then do what i did, all the data on my phone is really important to me so first i made sure i made a backup of everything on my memory card then connect the phone to my computer in mass memory mode and copy everything over from the phone and memory card over to my hard drive (copy & paste) and i have a n95 as my backup phone. After all this i flashed the leaked FW, i also removed my memory card before flashing (just to be on the safe side) flashed only the rootfs not mass memory (took about 2 or 3 mins) then restored all setting using the backup made on the memory card and restored all the applications (some won't restore) after that i tested everything that i could think of and then flashed it with titan's kernel. Haven't looked back since. I know all these things have been mentioned by other users but i said everything again because as a reader that is what i am looking for different users with the same experience and that is what helps me in taking a decision as "should i flash the leaked FW even though some users are having problems with it" good luck guyz who are thinking about flashing with the leaked FW

Ronaldo 2010-05-03 02:05

Re: Is PR1.2 RC disappointing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mybsearch (Post 639546)
Well all i can say is that i flashed last night and so far everything has been good. No major problems (sorry for the people that are having problems) Yes there is a lot more space free on rootfs, even with devel & extras enabled and almost all the applications restored i have about 92 mb free. I even flashed titan's 950/500 kernel and disabled all the transitions (i prefer speed over eye candy) and the phone is super fast. The only problem i faced once is that the phone was saying no Sim card inserted, just turned the phone off and back on the problem hasn't happened so far. The problem happened about 3 hours back, i will come back and update if i have any more problems. For other people i would say if you can wait for the official release good. If not then do what i did, all the data on my phone is really important to me so first i made sure i made a backup of everything on my memory card then connect the phone to my computer in mass memory mode and copy everything over from the phone and memory card over to my hard drive (copy & paste) and i have a n95 as my backup phone. After all this i flashed the leaked FW, i also removed my memory card before flashing (just to be on the safe side) flashed only the rootfs not mass memory (took about 2 or 3 mins) then restored all setting using the backup made on the memory card and restored all the applications (some won't restore) after that i tested everything that i could think of and then flashed it with titan's kernel. Haven't looked back since. I know all these things have been mentioned by other users but i said everything again because as a reader that is what i am looking for different users with the same experience and that is what helps me in taking a decision as "should i flash the leaked FW even though some users are having problems with it" good luck guyz who are thinking about flashing with the leaked FW

this is very annoying to read! why dont you put space and new lines, paragraphing is not hard

felbutss 2010-05-03 02:10

Re: Major speedup for Fennec after PR1.2
 
damm uuu

iPhone 3GS: 26897 points

mybsearch 2010-05-03 02:19

Re: Is PR1.2 RC disappointing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HellFlyer (Post 639513)
Of course not but its the only way to describe someone who rushed to do such stupid thing. I mean If you are willing to take a risk and flash your device with unfinished/beta software without knowing how to undo/reflash it .... hence ***** or idiot fits perfectly :)

I understand where you are coming from but, lets look at it this way. Some people don't mind taking risks and are just tired of nokia taking so long (i am sure nokia has their reasons, it's not like they have the FW ready and they are not releasing it on purpose just to mess with people) But my n900 is working fine, i am happy with the leaked FW so far, but i did take precautions by backing up everything incase something goes wrong. I also have a n95 sitting in the back. For those people who'z n900 did mess up i am pretty sure they are calling themselves a ***** or idiot (whichever they prefer) and the last thing they need is someone else calling them that. They did take a risk and if it weren't for risks where would this world be today.

U know what i say, if u can't say anything nice about anybody don't say anything bad either (stay neutral) :)

vietn900 2010-05-03 02:20

Re: Is PR1.2 RC disappointing?
 
it's not even an official firmware. why are you drawing conclusions ?

mybsearch 2010-05-03 02:22

Re: Is PR1.2 RC disappointing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronaldo (Post 639548)
this is very annoying to read! why dont you put space and new lines, paragraphing is not hard

sorry about that, i just joined yesterday and i was worried if i hit return it might submit the post instead of making a separate paragraph.

So here i did it and thanks for the advice

mrbiggzz79 2010-05-03 02:28

Re: Is PR1.2 RC disappointing?
 
how can it be do u have the "Full" release

jaeezzy 2010-05-03 02:44

Re: Major speedup for Fennec after PR1.2
 
This can't be true ;) just before doing the about:config thing mentioned in the prev page my microB was giving ~8600 now its gone up to 13711 with stock kernel and to tell youse the truth I neva achieved this even with titans 850MHz ulv-kernel. Btw, I'm using leaked PR1.2 ;)

EDIT: Second attempt with the same stock kernel and leaked PR1.2: 14348

bandora 2010-05-03 02:52

Re: Is PR1.2 RC disappointing?
 
AFAIK the PR1.2 leaked release isn't an RC..

Konceptz 2010-05-03 03:50

Re: Is PR1.2 RC disappointing?
 
Everything is working well for me.

like:

skype video call. I initiated and had a nice chat with a friend over 3g. (full voice and video, didn't need to type)
browser: it feels more finished with the bak button and rotate option
System message about power usage exceeding charger. never saw that before
No 'more' menu is nice except it feels like an app dump now. I'll probaby see if catorize works.
rootfs is wide open. 90megs free after reinstalling all of my old programs.


Dislikes:
heat?! i feel like the phone is much warmer than before. but it did just hit 80 today in the city so it could be me.
friendstatus won't work for me. 'internal app closed' on start. (haven't tried many workarounds yet)
conversations gave me a 'unable to open chatrooom' once, but it was gone after a close and reopen.
ovi maps is effectively the same (for me) without voicenav.

Overall I'm just happy I don't feel the need to hit the update button any more. (keeping an eye on the heat)

navsin 2010-05-03 04:14

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
I never tried this on PR1.1.1, but in 1.2 RC, there is a search function in the email app!ication. When in inbox, just start typing whatever u want to search.... It works like a charm!

navsin 2010-05-03 04:19

Re: Is PR1.2 RC disappointing?
 
not for me.... i love the search functionality in app manager, changes in the browser, new virtual keyboard, notifications on the lock slider screen and also the search function in the email application.....

disclaimer- last one may have been there in 1.1.1; i tried it only now

d-iivil 2010-05-03 04:26

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
1 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by casper27 (Post 639138)
They were set to false ran
http://browsermark.rightware.com/bro...action?key=3RG

Running 850mhz enchanced kernel

Jit set to false - 14300
Jit set to true - 17451


Quite an improvement thanks for the tip.

Here's mine with jit enabled :) Using titan's kernel @ 950MHz.

giannoug 2010-05-03 04:27

Re: Is PR1.2 RC disappointing?
 
I have another question:
Is it me or the same people always make the same type of threads?

krystof_k 2010-05-03 04:35

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 639171)
Quote myself, does anyone know how to do this? or not?

Yes, but I cannot save it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by krystof_k (Post 638941)
I've problem with Mail for Exchange - I cannot save settings. Everything works fine until I exit the Settings, than everything disappeared. Am I alone? Thanks!


zfarooq 2010-05-03 04:36

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
Hey guys, any changes to the unlock screen? I read somewhere that pr 1.2 has notifications on the unlock screen...that true?

HellFlyer 2010-05-03 04:42

Re: Is PR1.2 RC disappointing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rawutt (Post 639516)
imHo, ur signature doesn't suit u..

what do you mean?

navsin 2010-05-03 04:46

Re: What works better in the PR1.2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zfarooq (Post 639654)
Hey guys, any changes to the unlock screen? I read somewhere that pr 1.2 has notifications on the unlock screen...that true?

100% true bro...

YoDude 2010-05-03 04:54

Re: Is PR1.2 RC disappointing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bandora (Post 639587)
AFAIK the PR1.2 leaked release isn't an RC..

What he^ said... and why are people calling it a PR build when it clearly is a POS build...

Yeesh.

This whole thread by orangeb.... I mean Hellrazor should be closed or re-titled to something along the lines of:

"Are you disappointed with random crap you find on the internet and install on your phone?

***

On a side note I hear that Skype 3g video calls work well. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konceptz
Lasted 20 minutes, we didn't have to type anything. I initiated the call and we talked.


Camera quality was a bit grainy, and you need a decent light source, but overall it was a really enjoyable experience. .....finally.


Maj3stic 2010-05-03 05:03

Re: Is PR1.2 RC disappointing?
 
For those who have flashed with the new release thanks for the info it has made me excited to wait for the real deal and has given me something to read and be interested with in the mean time :D.
It sucks that some are having troubles with it but what did the word"leaked" imply to you? Go ahead and try this not meant to be out update?
If your n900 is broken tough luck Nokia and no one is responsible except you so either warn others of problems/bugs or something constructive long those lines
Other than that who else has gotten excited over all this? :D

GEONXT 2010-05-03 05:46

Re: Is PR1.2 RC disappointing?
 
Early adopters, history calls them Pioners. Some people said Einstein was crazy here people call them *****s? whatever it maybe I thank the people with the guts to try so we all can move forward. Thanks!

geneven 2010-05-03 05:56

Re: Is PR1.2 RC disappointing?
 
This incident is yet another example of something that actually created excitement and added interest to the N900 and that the site itself went to some lengths to kill.


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