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Saturn 2010-11-07 01:07

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frappacino (Post 865571)
I have the same problem.

I have PR1.3 vanilla with NOTHING installed.

I then enabled extras and extras testing repositories in app manager.

Then I tried installing swappolube.

I get this error.

I also did apt-get install on python2.5 and also python2.5-qt4-common. This installed more files but I still get the error.

Whats going on ?

Might be wrong, but I believe that not all packages from qt4 have been promoted correctly.
Read here if you want for some info http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=61687

Hopefully will be solved soon..

Goliath27 2010-11-07 18:50

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
Ok so this is my first post here and my first time installing a file like this without using the usual downloads and app installer.

I installed the very first file on the first page (swappolube-nogui_0.1.2_armel.deb ) and after reading through I noticed other people posting newer files. Is it better for me to uninstall the first one and go with the latest file?

Also, I don't see the Swappolube app anywhere in my menu but the installation process unpacked everything as it should have. Did the first file not have an actual app to run?

ALi

debernardis 2010-11-07 19:03

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Goliath27 (Post 866173)
Ok so this is my first post here and my first time installing a file like this without using the usual downloads and app installer.<br />
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I installed the very first file on the first page (swappolube-nogui_0.1.2_armel.deb ) and after reading through I noticed other people posting newer files. Is it better for me to uninstall the first one and go with the latest file?<br />
<br />
Also, I don't see the Swappolube app anywhere in my menu but the installation process unpacked everything as it should have. Did the first file not have an actual app to run?<br />
<br />
ALi

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Swappolube-nogui makes the same thing of Swappolube; the difference is that Swappolube-nogui installs a set of changes and doesn't give an option to further tweak them; while Swappolube gives you a graphical interface which allows you to experiment with values if you wish to.
So, Swappolube-nogui doesn't need an icon in your app list, it just works from the moment you install it - and stops working when you uninstall it.
Swappolube, instead, has an icon to open the graphical interface.
Hope it helps.

debernardis 2010-11-07 19:06

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
After testing pr1.3 *without* swappolube for some days, I have reinstalled it. The difference is immediately evident and significant, in favour of swappolube. It is again part of my standard configuration.

Goliath27 2010-11-07 19:16

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by debernardis (Post 866185)
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Swappolube-nogui makes the same thing of Swappolube; the difference is that Swappolube-nogui installs a set of changes and doesn't give an option to further tweak them; while Swappolube gives you a graphical interface which allows you to experiment with values if you wish to.
So, Swappolube-nogui doesn't need an icon in your app list, it just works from the moment you install it - and stops working when you uninstall it.
Swappolube, instead, has an icon to open the graphical interface.
Hope it helps.

OK understood and Thank you. Now where can I find the most updated and solid Swappolube to install it. After reading debernardis post right above this, I would like to see what I can tweak and what not to get the most out of it.

ALi

debernardis 2010-11-07 19:19

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
You have to enable extras-testing to get swappolube, or directly extras-devel. Then you'll find it in your app manager. If you want to install swappolube, take care to uninstall swappolube-nogui, because the two are mutually incompatible.

Goliath27 2010-11-07 19:58

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by debernardis (Post 866197)
You have to enable extras-testing to get swappolube, or directly extras-devel. Then you'll find it in your app manager. If you want to install swappolube, take care to uninstall swappolube-nogui, because the two are mutually incompatible.

and a whole new world of apps have been shown to me.

Enabled Extras and Extras Testing, should I tread with caution in the Testing apps? I take it the extras would be just fine or should I not use the extras one either?

ALi

debernardis 2010-11-08 06:06

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
You can safely activate extras.
Extras-devel have apps tested only by the developer and few forum dwellers (or nobody at all ;) ); extras-testing gets apps ready for more structured and deep testing, and if they're found good they go to extras. Apps in extras are quite safe (but bugs are part of life and can't ever be excluded)
If you are not handy with command line and repairing your own device or reflashing, stay far from the first two. If you know what you're doing, more or less, you'll get much more fun having the full range of bells and whistles on.

HellFlyer 2010-11-08 06:15

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Saturn (Post 865327)
There are multiple threads with people having problems with qt4 libraries at the moment.

Could you please mention:
- if you have PR1.3 (OTA or flash) and if you had problems during installation
- which repos you have enabled

I have PR 1.3 , I did a clean install

I have extras testing only , because there are some apps that I dont want to update from devel and hitting ignore all the time is annoying

Goliath27 2010-11-10 21:01

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
thanks debernardis

Well after a couple of days I notice my phone is lagging again.

I checked to make sure it was on and the settings were unchecked every time I opened it so I assume it is running and was just showing me the current settings.

Whenever I go to my phone and open my messaging or my phone, it lags and I see the cpumem applet spikes to the red while opening.

I thought this would solve my problems but I think not, unless I need to tweek the settings more which I have no idea what to touch first.

ALi

debernardis 2010-11-11 06:45

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
@Goliath27: you can find in the forums a thread with an optimizen900.sh (or similar) script which restarts a number of daemons and could help with your lags. You might search for 'optimize n900'.

Reeby 2010-11-11 09:53

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Goliath27 (Post 869666)
I checked to make sure it was on and the settings were unchecked every time I opened it
ALi

My question too: does it save the settings after I do the noob's ritual "Proposed "-> "Apply" -> "Store" or do I have to repeat it every time I reboot?

shallimus 2010-11-11 14:08

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Reeby (Post 870126)
My question too: does it save the settings after I do the noob's ritual "Proposed "-> "Apply" -> "Store" or do I have to repeat it every time I reboot?

Yes. Yes it does. See the first post in this thread, or the Swappolube wiki page.
Quote:

Originally Posted by debernardis (Post 816676)
The package changes a number of kernel parameters when installed and adds a script to event.d to make the changes permanent. When removed, the script is deleted and the parameters are reset.

N.B. On the wiki page, some of the descriptions are missing. If I have time to more fully understand the options, I will attempt to fill in the gaps.

Also: great work debernardis - although my N900 already seems faster since I installed PR1.3, it seems to be even better now. Swappolube is another great package with a slightly funny name.

James_Littler 2010-11-11 14:29

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by droll (Post 860319)
can i make a suggestion? can you please include this into swappolube too?
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...536#post858536

this is the setting in hildon-deskop.ini. it makes my desktop scrolling so ridiculously smooth!

Yea, it also makes hildon-desktop consume ~17% CPU (that's clocked to 1150) when ever you touch it or 'do' anything.

Goliath27 2010-11-11 18:16

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
now I have camera issues due to over clocking haha

ALi

anismistry 2010-11-11 21:00

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
Hi debernardis,
i am new to this thread but want to desperately install this app for obvious reasons, just wanted to know after i install the app is it safe to reboot the device because i read some where in the thread that the device gets bricked if you reboot after installation. Do i have to do anything after installation and during reboot so that the device does not get bricked.
Thanks again for this app

P@t 2010-11-11 21:21

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
I have reinstalled swappolube today after a complete clean (flash eMMC and rootfs)
actually i could not install it for few days because of the stories around PyQt
I was happy to reinstall it (useful application :) ) but, now

/opt/swappolube/swappolube.py
gives:

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/opt/swappolube/swappolube.py", line 14, in <module>
from PyQt4 import QtGui,QtCore
RuntimeError: the sip module implements API v8.0 but the PyQt4.QtGui module requires API v7.1

so what to do now, wait a bit more for another fix of PyQt or wait for swappolube to be adapted or did I screw up something ?

cjp 2010-11-11 21:31

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
Hmm is there a reason why Khweeteur looks very different after the installation of this package?

Although I did a Power-Kernel update as well without openingn Khweeteur...

Saturn 2010-11-11 23:52

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by P@t (Post 870786)
I have reinstalled swappolube today after a complete clean (flash eMMC and rootfs)
actually i could not install it for few days because of the stories around PyQt
I was happy to reinstall it (useful application :) ) but, now

/opt/swappolube/swappolube.py
gives:

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/opt/swappolube/swappolube.py", line 14, in <module>
from PyQt4 import QtGui,QtCore
RuntimeError: the sip module implements API v8.0 but the PyQt4.QtGui module requires API v7.1

so what to do now, wait a bit more for another fix of PyQt or wait for swappolube to be adapted or did I screw up something ?

Looking at the qt4 libs at the repositories it seems that several of those packages have been removed, but the fix is not completed yet.

Saturn 2010-11-11 23:53

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cjp (Post 870801)
Hmm is there a reason why Khweeteur looks very different after the installation of this package?

Although I did a Power-Kernel update as well without openingn Khweeteur...

There was an update of Khweeter today or yesterday. Maybe you did that too?

bobaseth 2010-11-12 02:05

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
After I install it,run it,it goes through it's load up process (black screen with the loading circle thing at the top middle screen) then nothing happens. It just throws me back to whatever I was doing. I uninstall it and reinstall it and same thing. Any feedback or help? Thanks in advance!

debernardis 2010-11-12 06:10

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
@anismistry: there should be no problem in rebooting, as far as I know.
To others with problems in QT libraries: you can install swappolube-nogui for now, waiting for the repos to stabilize. You get the same tweaks as the graphical version, only you can't finetune them further.

Saturn 2010-11-13 10:12

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
A temporary fix for all those hit by the PyQt4 libraries problem in the repositories have been discussed here: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11539#c5

Those uncomfortable with the xterm and such, should wait a few more days till the situation gets fixed.

maddude 2010-11-14 19:11

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
guys i intalled this app, and as state before it doesn't start, i know that downgrading python can fix the problem, but is there another way to fix it ? without downgrading anything ?

Saturn 2010-11-14 20:32

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maddude (Post 873271)
guys i intalled this app, and as state before it doesn't start, i know that downgrading python can fix the problem, but is there another way to fix it ? without downgrading anything ?

Sorry, not that I know of. As said before you can wait till it's fixed upstream in the repos.

maddude 2010-11-14 20:44

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
ok no problem i'll wait, i taught at first that this was caused by my custom emmc, i'm using a custom emmc that partitions my memory with 5 gb for apps and the rest for MyDocs, its the easiest way to get more space for preenv games ;) .

maddude 2010-11-15 15:11

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
anyone got it working yet ? today i disabled all my catalogues than reinstalled it, and its still not working.

Saturn 2010-11-17 22:32

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
The PyQt issue should be fixed now. All the libraries have been updated in the repositories.

cheers

geneven 2010-11-17 22:35

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
I just started using this program. It seems cool. With overclocking, Swappolube, nine windows, desktop-switching, uboot, and other good things, my N900 is becoming like a new device.

Robb 2010-11-18 13:04

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
I think the proposed parameters have a negative effect on downloading with transmission app. It stalls and hangs for me.

Just a theory, but maybe somebody can confirm.

Yesterday I activated the proposed paramaters.

Then started transmission - N900 hung.
Reverted to original parameters (restart).
Started transmission waited a while for it to download some, then activating proposed parameters.
Left it overnight.

In the morning, transmission was not responding, download had not progressed and BaterryGraph shows above 50% usage whole night (good, that it was on charger).

cfh11 2010-11-18 14:11

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
Nope, that's just the way transmission is. Try reducing the maximum number of peers you can connect to in the settings.

Robb 2010-11-18 14:36

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cfh11 (Post 877098)
Nope, that's just the way transmission is. Try reducing the maximum number of peers you can connect to in the settings.

Maximum number of peers was reduced to 5 overnight.
Maximum download speed limit was reduced to 50 (I have 5Mbit bandwidth)
Maximum upload speed limit was reduced to 10 (I have 1Mbit bandwidth)

Robb 2010-11-18 19:46

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
Just ran transmission again with deleted tunings.
With max download changed to 150, downloaded about 250MB in about an hour.
System did slow down a bit, but did not hang.

Feature request:
Besides Proposed I would like 2 more settings:
1) Default - default N900 settings
2) Custom - custom values which when modified could be saved from menu.

Saturn 2010-11-18 20:17

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Robb (Post 877326)
Feature request:
Besides Proposed I would like 2 more settings:
1) Default - default N900 settings
2) Custom - custom values which when modified could be saved from menu.

Both are in my todo list and are easy to implement.

The problem is to fit two more buttons in that space.

Thus my priority is to make it a scrollable window with a row of buttons on the right. Up to now I haven't been successful but I've learned some new tricks during the tests.

It's just a matter of time.. cheers

augustya 2010-11-19 06:22

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
So Guys there are two clear sections of people who say that Post having PR 1.3 installed in their device there is no need to have Swappolube in addition to that, all the features of Swappolube have already been integrated in PR 1.3. But some of them have still gone ahead and installed Swappolube. My question is will having Swappolube in addition to the PR 1.3 if already installed in the device, does it make the device any more faster and smoother ? I am kinda confused !!

maartenmk 2010-11-19 10:53

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
@robb: I ran Transmission with proposed settings without any problems, download around 300kB/s.

@augustya: this was answered earlier in this thread by debernardis.

ivgalvez 2010-11-19 11:50

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
Saturn:

Have you thought about adding the Lennart Poettering's cgroup hack to .bashrc in Swappoluble?:
http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/11/16/392

maddude 2010-11-19 13:37

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Saturn (Post 876504)
The PyQt issue should be fixed now. All the libraries have been updated in the repositories.

cheers

its still not working for me, i'll downgrade .

geneven 2010-11-19 20:25

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by augustya (Post 877651)
So Guys there are two clear sections of people who say that Post having PR 1.3 installed in their device there is no need to have Swappolube in addition to that, all the features of Swappolube have already been integrated in PR 1.3. But some of them have still gone ahead and installed Swappolube. My question is will having Swappolube in addition to the PR 1.3 if already installed in the device, does it make the device any more faster and smoother ? I am kinda confused !!

Swappolube has a number of easily configurable settings that undeniably PR1.3 doesn't have. I think that 100% of us can agree on that. Thus it is a research and learning tool. Most people also say it makes things faster. If it doesn't seem to you to speed anything up, you are permitted to delete it.

ayos! 2010-11-19 21:34

Re: [announce] swappolube to lubricate your gui
 
just downloaded and installed this app, have pr1.3, i must say that i notice "swappiness." do i need a reboot after applying the proposed settings?


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