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hepokatti 2011-01-31 20:19

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jurica (Post 932780)
I have the same problem with rdesktop and CSSU.
I find another problem. When I send mail with attachment the attach is not sent. Dont know if this is also becausse CSSU :(

Hhhmm, Mine rdesktop is working fine after CSSU.

By the way: If you go to Menu -> Setting -> About what is your product version? Mine didn't change at all after CSSU.

cferrism 2011-01-31 20:40

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Guys.

Installed yesterday morning and only issue I noticed was a slight pixelation of the little loading circle on the top bar in things like ham. Completely dissapeared after installing catorise though. Everything else thus far has worked a treat. I did a reflash before installing update so can't comment on performance improvement as my system was due a tidy up anyway. Fresh install might be why I havent seen any of the issues mentioned thus far.

Keep up the good work guys! I look forward to seeing how far this goes.

jurica 2011-01-31 20:54

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
hepokatti, version is 20.2010.36-2

Mentalist Traceur 2011-01-31 21:03

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Some of the image bugs people report (some image pixelated/glitched) have nothing to do with the CSSU. I had random icons load poorly before - usually it's in the form of a single random-colored 1-pixel-wide short line in the image. Basically, looks like the image got slightly corrupted/screwed-up. But reboots ALWAYS fix it for me. (Sometimes another image loads screwed up the next boot, but usually not.) So it's not a CSSU thing, it's just some random bug elsewhere, that shows up if the icons get loaded badly at boot, near as I can tell. (Not sure what the underlying technical explanation is.)

As for Remote Desktop - I'll be happy to test it if someone points me to a free Remote Desktop server I can install on my computer(s). I run VNC on my machine, so never needed to install Remote Desktop.

m4r0v3r 2011-01-31 21:06

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
seems to be working okay, but why is the control backspace disabled? its pretty useful for multitasking

Rob1n 2011-01-31 21:11

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 932846)
seems to be working okay, but why is the control backspace disabled? its pretty useful for multitasking

:rolleyes:

run as root:
gconf-schemas --register hildon-desktop-keys.schemas
and reboot

Mentalist Traceur 2011-01-31 21:13

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 932846)
seems to be working okay, but why is the control backspace disabled? its pretty useful for multitasking

*Twitch*

One page ago. One, page, ago. This was answered. And then two pages before that. And then a couple pages before that. Maybe not literally, but it's been answered multiple times in the last few pages. Is it really too hard to go "hmmm... maybe someone just asked the same question about the software I just downloaded, let me skim over the last couple of pages..."? (Hint: The correct answer is no.)

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=145

It has to do with how the various stuff is set in custom hildon desktops - resetting it as per the above posts' instructions fixes it.

- Edit -

Rob1n: Thank you for having more patience than me in answering these things.

caco3 2011-01-31 21:13

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mentalist Traceur (Post 932844)
Some of the image bugs people report (some image pixelated/glitched) have nothing to do with the CSSU. I had random icons load poorly before - usually it's in the form of a single random-colored 1-pixel-wide short line in the image. Basically, looks like the image got slightly corrupted/screwed-up. But reboots ALWAYS fix it for me. (Sometimes another image loads screwed up the next boot, but usually not.) So it's not a CSSU thing, it's just some random bug elsewhere, that shows up if the icons get loaded badly at boot, near as I can tell. (Not sure what the underlying technical explanation is.)

As for Remote Desktop - I'll be happy to test it if someone points me to a free Remote Desktop server I can install on my computer(s). I run VNC on my machine, so never needed to install Remote Desktop.

Normal windows can be controlled remotely, you just have to enable it and create a session.
How ever I do not know if it is the same protocol.
As i am not using Windoze, I cant test it.

Mentalist Traceur 2011-01-31 21:18

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by caco3 (Post 932856)
Normal windows can be controlled remotely, you just have to enable it and create a session.
How ever I do not know if it is the same protocol.
As i am not using Windoze, I cant test it.

Bit confused by this: Are we talking about Windows machines, or Linux? Remote Desktop is the Windows default for these things, no?

Anyway, to clarify: I run Windows on my laptop and home machines. I have VNC servers installed on them. I have both VNC and RDesktop installed on my N900, and would be happy to see if I have the RDesktop+CSSU bug some people are reporting.

So, my source of confusion is, we are talking about Windows systems, right, and if so, what do you mean by "Normal windows" (normal 'windows' - as in single programs running in a window, or normal 'Windows', as in the OS)?

Thanks in advance.

Gusse 2011-01-31 21:19

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mentalist Traceur (Post 932844)
As for Remote Desktop - I'll be happy to test it if someone points me to a free Remote Desktop server I can install on my computer(s). I run VNC on my machine, so never needed to install Remote Desktop.

If you are using a Windows machine, then just enable "Remote Desktop".

Win7:
System Properties -> Remote
or
Control Panel -> System -> Remote settings

Alastor89 2011-01-31 21:21

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
I tryed to activate apmefo... All my program icons from menù disappeared...

Could someone post a default hildon.menu file ?


Edit : All repaired... Seems that apmefo is not compatible whit the community update

kingoddball 2011-01-31 21:26

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
The problem for me was MAG Hildon Desktop. Remove MoAG's hildon (maemodder).
I think it has installed, how do you tell?
Does the /system/about change?

Mentalist Traceur 2011-01-31 21:32

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
(Just found it after digging around in the control panel after asking the above. Went back here and it looks like I got to the same place you [Gusse] suggested. Though I run Windows Vista on the machine I'm on now, so it's got slightly different names.)

Will get back here if it actually works for me or I have any bugs.

- Edit -

I'm ******ed - it's not showing up for me. All I have in the Remote tab of System Properties is Allow Remote Assistance Connections - nothing about normal remote connections. Does it have to be Windows Vista Professions/Ultimate? Not sure "Home 'Premium'" comes with Remote Desktop by default. (I knew I had some good reason for asking about a Remote Desktop server in the first place.)

- Edit 2 -

Yeah, brief Google says Home version doesn't even DO Remote Desktop courtesy Vista ********. Which brings up another irritation I feel about "Home Premium" - what an anal name to call an operating system version when it's so crippled. It's like wiping your fecal excretement on someone and then calling it all-natural prime organic skin lotion. It just insults your intelligence because you still know it for what it is.

saxen 2011-01-31 21:54

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
i've tried to get this update, but i think it messed up application manager! it alway sais "operation failed" when try to get new updates!
any hint?! plz help me ;)

Jaffa 2011-01-31 23:18

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roger_27 (Post 932741)
I hope this hasn't been asked in the past 9 pages, but what if Nokia makes a pr1.4 ? and it overwrites the fixed packages that the CSSU has fixed.

It doesn't work like that. CSSU uses the same mechanism to update as Nokia's own SSUs do; however just as when a UK (203) update is released it doesn't show as an update on a global firmware device; so it won't when you're running the CSSU

(This is to do with the mp-fremantle-community-pr metapackage replacing the mp-fremantle-...-pr package of Nokia's).

If there is a PR1.4 (and it's a big if), the Community Council would liaise with Nokia and those involved in the CSSU to ensure that CSSU users weren't left in the lurch.

There are a number of ways that could occur, a new update of the CSSU meta-package could be put out which re-introduces the Nokia PR meta-package. Or, a new CSSU update could depend on the new Nokia packages exactly as the Nokia meta-package does. Or, a notification could be provided to users that they have to switch, and here's how (with or without a reflash).

Quote:

Shouldnt Nokia officially 'pass the torch' to the Maemo community so this doesn't happen?
Nokia have been very supportive and enthusiastic about the Community SSU initiative. See, for example, the discussion Tero Kojo and the Community Council had at the MeeGo Conference. There were similar chats with a number of Nokians about how to make the CSSU a success.

Jaffa 2011-01-31 23:19

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saxen (Post 932884)
i've tried to get this update, but i think it messed up application manager! it alway sais "operation failed" when try to get new updates!
any hint?! plz help me ;)

See http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Installation_FAQ for details as to how to investigate your problem, and provide more information so that people can assist.

Jaffa 2011-01-31 23:23

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mentalist Traceur (Post 932854)
*Twitch*

One page ago. One, page, ago. This was answered. And then two pages before that. And then a couple pages before that. Maybe not literally, but it's been answered multiple times in the last few pages. Is it really too hard to go "hmmm... maybe someone just asked the same question about the software I just downloaded, let me skim over the last couple of pages..."? (Hint: The correct answer is no.)

It's also in the Installation FAQ.

Seriously people, remember the bit where I said this was the testing repo? Things will be broken. Please read the available documentation (hell, improve it if you want - it's a wiki) and the logged bugs and you'll save yourself, and everyone else, a lot of time.

saxen 2011-01-31 23:30

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 932957)
See http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Installation_FAQ for details as to how to investigate your problem, and provide more information so that people can assist.

first time i've tried to install update it said something like "pcsuite needed"! then every time i look for update it says "operation failed" and no update is listed as available!
Same problem with Fast Application Manager.... :confused:

Jaffa 2011-01-31 23:34

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saxen (Post 932963)
first time i've tried to install update it said something like "pcsuite needed"! then every time i look for update it says "operation failed" and no update is listed as available!
Same problem with Fast Application Manager.... :confused:

As it says on the Installation FAQ, if it says it cannot install (e.g. "PC suite needed"), the Details > Problems tab in Application Manager can shed more light on the situation.

If you have "operation failed", perhaps you have broken repositories enabled? Can you paste the output from Application Manager's log, available under its window menu?

anidel 2011-02-01 00:19

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
To those interested.

Modest orders e-mails by date.
And when browsing the e-mail via the View window (i.e. when reading an e-mail and using the arrow buttons to navigate) the "next" e-mail after the current one is the previous in date.
That is fine.
However, when deleting the current e-mail, it shows the "next" e-mail, i.e. the previous in date.
It is still fine.

The problem (for me at least) is when there are new e-mails. I usually go to the older and star reading from there.
So, when deleting an e-mail I think it's useless, I wanted it to skip to the "previous" e-mail (i.e. the next in date) I've received.

To alter this behavior I made a patch to modest in the Community SSU:

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11839

The patch is available as an attachment and includes an UI setting to alter this behavior.

Aniello

ndi 2011-02-01 00:38

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
I know my answer is probably be "soon" but I have to ask: When is MAG's multi-desktop patch going to be integrated? I used 4 desktops for over a year and last week I decided to open a 5th (I thought I had an impeding flash coming) and now I can't go back.

So, I read that it will be integrated. Is there some sort of schedule, proposed or real, or are things going to get pushed as the source gets done? I'm torn between the 5th desktop and the ability to use ENTER in mcedit.

MohammadAG 2011-02-01 00:47

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Matan made those patches, and I'm pretty sure the desktop in the repo supports +4 desktops, you just have to enable it via gconf.

ndi 2011-02-01 00:54

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Ah, sorry. I used MaeModder and the button says MAG Hildon desktop. I just assumed, you know, from the name.

Well, if it does support additional desktops, it's not in the changelog. Oversight? Intentional?

Sekou718 2011-02-01 02:02

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
new here.

anyway...please dont bite my head off if i posted in the wrong area.

i have experienced a bug which was replicated twice (had to reflah twice).

using nokia messanging witth the cssu installed..you cannot attach inline photos in your email. it is also sometimey when attaching things in the regular fashion. youll send the email and see the attachment icon but reciving it on the phone or regular computer...no attachment.

dont know if anypne else has experienced this..just putting it out there.

Dark_Angel85 2011-02-01 02:40

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by anidel (Post 932983)
To those interested.

Modest orders e-mails by date.
And when browsing the e-mail via the View window (i.e. when reading an e-mail and using the arrow buttons to navigate) the "next" e-mail after the current one is the previous in date.
That is fine.
However, when deleting the current e-mail, it shows the "next" e-mail, i.e. the previous in date.
It is still fine.

The problem (for me at least) is when there are new e-mails. I usually go to the older and star reading from there.
So, when deleting an e-mail I think it's useless, I wanted it to skip to the "previous" e-mail (i.e. the next in date) I've received.

To alter this behavior I made a patch to modest in the Community SSU:

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11839

The patch is available as an attachment and includes an UI setting to alter this behavior.

Aniello

tried sending an email to myself

1st email with an image and text... email sent successfully without any image or text

2nd email with attachment and text... same... sent successfully without any image or text

anidel 2011-02-01 02:54

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Angel85 (Post 933053)
tried sending an email to myself

1st email with an image and text... email sent successfully without any image or text

2nd email with attachment and text... same... sent successfully without any image or text

Thanks for reporting, but this is not related to my patch.
Actually I've seen someone else reporting this issue.
So please either file a bug or see if someone else already filed it and vote for it.

Check here:

https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?q...y+SSU&content=

However, I tried sending several emails and they arrived with text and attachments.

Also, did you compile it with my patch or just the one from the Community SSU and which email provider are you using (I tried sending via Gmail) ?

Dark_Angel85 2011-02-01 03:09

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by anidel (Post 933064)
Thanks for reporting, but this is not related to my patch.
Actually I've seen someone else reporting this issue.
So please either file a bug or see if someone else already filed it and vote for it.

Check here:

https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?q...y+SSU&content=

However, I tried sending several emails and they arrived with text and attachments.

Also, did you compile it with my patch or just the one from the Community SSU and which email provider are you using (I tried sending via Gmail) ?

Yeah.. sorry cause I realised this isn't related to your patch...

Edit: i wanted to file a bug about my emailing problems but can't seem to log in to garage.maemo

Dark_Angel85 2011-02-01 03:22

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
hmmm... so far: (using hotmail to send to yahoo)

tried sending plain text email to myself - success

tried sending a picture in the email - a lot of html codes instead of picture... both showing the same in laptop and phone

tried sending attachment - more html codes instead of the attachment appears...

tried sending attachment, picture, text from laptop and appears normal in email in laptop or phone

Dark_Angel85 2011-02-01 05:41

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
hmmm
looks like emailing is a huge problem...

the notifications also don't pop up now... and it doesn't highlight the mails that have new messages too... unless it's opened and ONLY then it shows the new message

Edit: notifications pop up now... i sorta reinstalled modest... but not sure if it's just a glitch or a real bug

Gusse 2011-02-01 06:12

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Angel85 (Post 933114)
hmmm
looks like emailing is a huge problem...

the notifications also don't pop up now... and it doesn't highlight the mails that have new messages too... unless it's opened and ONLY then it shows the new message

Edit: notifications pop up now... i sorta reinstalled modest... but not sure if it's just a glitch or a real bug

I can confirm this. I sent txt + picture + attachement from MfE to MfE and GMail accounts and both showed just this
Code:

> This is a multipart message in Mime 1.0 format
>
> --=-VDrCKE4+7uOAmYWX1vGs--
>

Also no pops ups. Raise a bug if not raised yet.

Edit: Same problem with txt + picture or attachement. Pure txt is OK

cjp 2011-02-01 06:31

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
I lost the ability to ctrl + backspace to see all open programs. Is this what should happen?

EDIT: Ah I see it has already been reported and adressed.

To fix:

gconf-schemas --register hildon-desktop-keys.schemas

Dark_Angel85 2011-02-01 07:17

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gusse (Post 933121)
I can confirm this. I sent txt + picture + attachement from MfE to MfE and GMail accounts and both showed just this
Code:

> This is a multipart message in Mime 1.0 format
>
> --=-VDrCKE4+7uOAmYWX1vGs--
>

Also no pops ups. Raise a bug if not raised yet.

I attached and image and a note

a large collection of what looks like HTML code just started loading instead of the attachment and the note.

Text works just fine.

My pop-ups are starting to act like normal again... I think... will wait and see if it goes on

Gusse 2011-02-01 08:25

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Email attachment bug raised, #11844
Vote here.

nux 2011-02-01 08:25

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Angel85 (Post 933148)
I attached and image and a note

a large collection of what looks like HTML code just started loading instead of the attachment and the note.

Text works just fine.

My pop-ups are starting to act like normal again... I think... will wait and see if it goes on

I have that behavior when I forward emails too, because modest automatically attaches the email then.

Jaffa 2011-02-01 08:34

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ndi (Post 933011)
Ah, sorry. I used MaeModder and the button says MAG Hildon desktop. I just assumed, you know, from the name.

Well, if it does support additional desktops, it's not in the changelog. Oversight? Intentional?

The Changelog is not complete. It's a nice task for someone to go through gitorious from the PR1.3 version up to HEAD and work out what's changed (hopefully debian/changelogs will help)

saxen 2011-02-01 08:49

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
That's what application manager's log says:
"E: Invalid record in the preferences file, no Package header"

Jaffa 2011-02-01 09:01

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saxen (Post 933188)
That's what application manager's log says:
"E: Invalid record in the preferences file, no Package header"

Hmm, can you paste /etc/apt/preferences?

erki232 2011-02-01 09:10

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Good News:) Any news SIM Toolkit? Many users need it:p
i hope to see sim toolkit some new update;)

michaaa62 2011-02-01 09:18

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saxen (Post 933188)
That's what application manager's log says:
"E: Invalid record in the preferences file, no Package header"

Read this please http://thttp://talk.maemo.org/showpo...3&postcount=33

saxen 2011-02-01 09:35

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
in preference file i've found these 4 lines:
Quote:

Pin: release a=unstable
Pin-Priority: 1001

Pin: release a=unstable
Pin-Priority: 1001
what i'm supposed to do with them?
thanks for help ;)


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