maemo.org - Talk - [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing

thanks a lot, everything is working kp47, nitdroid (vostok n11) and wl1251 drivers ;)

EDIT: i had cssu installed before and it is no problem with it.

0.o lxp drivers now implemented?

Mentalist Traceur

2011-05-03 22:57

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v47

I absolutely love how every single update since the original nokia PRs, of every major system package (I.E. Nokia PRs, CSSU, and Kernel Power), there's a large chunk of people who notice speed improvements, when the package doesn't in any way change the stuff that effects speed.

Of course, to be fair, it's possible that something speeds up right after a new system-wide update, perhaps because of some deep down workings in some of the closed binary blobs on the N900... but I just don't see that as likely. On the other hand, I'm sure there's been times when I've fallen victim to the same placebo perception effect. *Shrug*

For my part, I don't perceive any increase in speed. But that might be just me being odd, or alternatively, me getting the same placebo effect in reverse from perception. That said usually when code likely to increase performance speed is introduced, people comment on the matter, so lack there-of suggests no such patches.

Mentalist Traceur

2011-05-03 23:25

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfred (Post 999699)

I am not sure if RAM load could be affected by pali's kernel-power, but mine went down about 20 Mb (both when idle).

They're not included. But they're supported. So if you already use them, you can update to this and keep using them.

freemangordon

2011-05-03 23:27

Re: kernel-power patches/updates

Quote:

Originally Posted by pali (Post 999545)

Ok. For power-kernel is interested only kernel part code. First, can you create diff for file rx51power_defconfig? And second, is gstreamer, media player, ... working if I apply only kernel patch? (We need be sure, that power-kernel 48 up will not break system).

And for all: Now I pushed power-kernel v47 to extras-devel. wait until maemo builder done its work.

It WILL break multimedia left on its own, ioctl codes differ from those in stock kernel. That is why I put several userland libraries in the zip. Using them as replacements should allow existing functionality not to be broken. Do not put this patch in release even in extras-devel until I am ready with other packages. And after that you will have to make KP depend on them. I put the patch here so you and maybe some other brave souls to test if it does not lead to some unexpected results (i.e battery life, connectivity, what else?). Re diff for .config file - I will do it as soon as I have time.

eefo	2011-05-03 23:50

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v47

is it safe for the noobs to try ?
because i had really bad experience of boot loops with v46 :$

freemangordon

2011-05-03 23:53

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v47

Quote:

Originally Posted by eefo (Post 999729)

is it safe for the noobs to try ?
because i had really bad experience of boot loops with v46 :$

If one is able to recompile the kernel I will not call him noob. But if you feel like, it is not for you, wait until it is ready.

pali	2011-05-04 00:18

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v47

Quote:

Originally Posted by zdanee (Post 999698)

Youre from Hungary BTW?

No, but you are closely enought... Go to the north :)

pali	2011-05-04 00:21

Re: kernel-power patches/updates

Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 999721)

I think I it NOT good idea to include this patch to power kernel in extras(-devel). I think is better to upload it _only_ to this forum (or to server).

This is big risk to break system...

aligatro

2011-05-04 00:39

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v47

Quote:

Originally Posted by pali (Post 983578)

[b]
* Compiled more usb host modules
]

can you be more specific? You meant you compiled more drivers into kernel ? If yes, does it include webcams, scanners, printers ?

pali	2011-05-04 00:42

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v47

only some usbnet and serial and modem.

if you need specified kernel module in power-kernel (which is disabled in building), write it.

aligatro

2011-05-04 01:09

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v47

Quote:

Originally Posted by pali (Post 999748)

only some usbnet and serial and modem.

if you need specified kernel module in power-kernel (which is disabled in building), write it.

Well I just wanted to play with my microdia webcam :P.
and I just remembered that driver is in mainstream since 2.6.31. but maemo's kernel is older. However, I have a git link for module source for older kernels, if you can compile it for power kernel that would be great. Thanks.

http://groups.google.com/group/micro...a-driver-draft

tzsm98

2011-05-04 02:21

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v47

Here are my observations about 47

1. Mediabar disappeared until the second re-boot after 47 installation.
2. Conky reports a Battery temp of 406° C, which is way too hot. On the upside it also reports 3909000mV so I am "loaded for bear" on my voltage.:rolleyes:
3. QCPUFreq reports CPU temperature of 378°C:eek:
4. My Nokia hands video nows plays smoothly and fully where it did not with 46.
4. SMS function is normal.
5. Install was unremarkable.
6. Noted no other changes.

AgogData

2011-05-04 02:39

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v47

If its kernel power 47 which i just update through app manager, why did it still say "pali1" not "kernel power 47" when i type (uname -r) ?

Mentalist Traceur

2011-05-04 02:56

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v47

Oi..

Battery temp and voltage get reported differently with this kernel version. This has been known since page 2-3 of this thread. Go annoy the devs of packages that use bq27x00_battery values. Basically, the earlier versions supposedly should've been reporting the value the way this one does, but since the previous versions didn't, software got written accordingly.

The My Nokia Hands video played smoothly for me on all kernels. no clue what was off about your version 46 if it didn't for you before.

It says pali1 instead of power47 because Pali is so badass he hacked the maemo.org repository, and changed all package version strings to mention him. (Or the crazy conspiracy theory: It's to get newbs to ask about it because pali is a masochist like that.)

Seriously, it's because palims the one who compiled this and at some point he made the version string say pali1 in the control file and then he forgot to change it. That's life, **** happens. Also, if it wasn't power-kernel you wouldn't have been able to download it. apt-get doesn't lie. Either it's the same exact package in the repository system, or it's not.

kent_autistic

2011-05-04 03:47

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v47

@Mentalist

I like how you have 1,276 posts and 1,272 thanks.

I just thanked you 4 times so you get 1,276 posts and 1,276 thanks hahaha

:) sorry for spamming, just dead bored at work.

pusak gaoq

2011-05-04 04:00

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v47

i just update this latest kernel on my n900 & a few problem came out after reboot....

1.my callnotify didnt works...no more call,sms & headphones icon appears on the status bar (fixed by reinstall callnotify-at this moment anyway)
2.the latest cutetube-QML didnt run at all....
3.sometime wifi works (have to reboot to make it works)
4.QCPUfreq detect 393° my CPU temperature...

Armstrong Dicksmasher

2011-05-04 04:06

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v47

Anyone who are using multiboot managed to upgrade to v47 from v46?
Mind sharing how you did that?

I'm having difficulties with upgrading to v47.Seems like the pesky v46 does not want to be removed.Multiboot keep generating boot file for v46 even though I managed to install v47.

F2thaK

2011-05-04 04:06

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v47

i installed version from 3rd may, is one in repos the same? as i got no update today

Daneel

2011-05-04 04:28

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v47

I think its the same, Pali just pushed it to the repos after testing.

J4ZZ	2011-05-04 05:46

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v47

I'm getting "conflict with application packages: maemo-kernel config for multiboot" I'm currently using 2.6.28.10power46-wl1 and cannot boot into default power46 anymore. Is that the reason for the error?

Thx in advance for any help,

Greetz,

..::J4ZZ::..

N900@900MHz

2011-05-04 05:51

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v47

Just upgraded from v46 to v47 using HAM, no issues so far everything runs smootly.:):)

Now running power-kernel v47 and latest CSSU update.:)

F2thaK

2011-05-04 06:03

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v47

for a few weeks now ive had an update for bootmenu-n900 in fappman but it wont update.. error: handler silently failed.
can I remove this package or wot??? cheers

jo21	2011-05-04 06:04

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v47

for those installed multoboot

kernel-bootimg gets pulled ie not installed.

sudo update again

and do apt-get install kernel-power-bootimg

F2thaK

2011-05-04 06:12

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v47

not sure if you replied to me jo but i didnt install the new multiboot kernel part, what should i do? thanks

eefo	2011-05-04 06:36

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v47

Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 999731)

If one is able to recompile the kernel I will not call him noob. But if you feel like, it is not for you, wait until it is ready.

oppps , means it's not a complete version yet .
i will wait then .

Gill T

2011-05-04 06:44

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v47

Hey guys,

I got a probleme when updating the kernel v47
its say "!!!! Linux kernel for power user (boot Image) breaks the 3rd party package policy" so it wont update

does some body know what the problem could be, mabay pali can help me

thnx in advance

freemangordon

2011-05-04 07:28

Re: kernel-power patches/updates

Quote:

Originally Posted by pali (Post 999737)

I think I it NOT good idea to include this patch to power kernel in extras(-devel). I think is better to upload it _only_ to this forum (or to server).

This is big risk to break system...

No it is not. I don't want to clone KP but to enhance it. And btw extras-devel IS for software one takes risk to have broken system if installs SW from it. Read the wiki. And how is current (v47) better when it is breaking userland functionality (battery readings) . I am sure you have missed my point, don't like the other options.

So in case I have been unclear - I am trying to allow n900 users to be able to play/record 720p video on their devices. dspbridge driver upgrade is just first step. gstreamer-dsp, gstreamer-openmax, libbridge, omapfb - those are userland packages which have to be upgraded/installed too. I still don't have them packaged for upload to extras-devel , that is why I said that kernel patch should not be included in KP until those parts are ready. It does not mean it will burn you,your house or your n900 if installed, OK? And I think it is always better if anyone else but me is able to test/evaluate such huge patch, that is why I attach zip file here. Once I am ready with above mentioned packages(assuming there is kernel support) I plan to talk with MAG/nicolai to implement support for 720p in OMP and CUI2 respectively. But all this depends on kernel, agree?

I saw you recently become a part of CSSU team, well, tell me, should we hang MAG for including QT 4.7.2 with broken raster renderer in CSSU and breaking most of QT apps?

I really appreciate your efforts and hard work of being maintainer of KP and part of CSSU team, please, respect my work too.

Larswad

2011-05-04 07:42

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gill T (Post 999832)

got the same issue. I did it from command-line instead and that worked. But I guess that update should be possible to do from the package manager as well.
Anyone who can clarify?

About the multiboot feature, is that like uboot or what do I have to do to boot from SD?
Nothing happened when I put in my SD with the MeeGo dev. on it. Maybe I'm not quite getting how its supposed to work.

wimmme

2011-05-04 08:00

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v47

Quote:

Originally Posted by f2thak (Post 999823)

for a few weeks now ive had an update for bootmenu-n900 in fappman but it wont update.. error: handler silently failed.
can I remove this package or wot??? cheers

Had the same problem with FAM; resolved it by having a tremendous amount of patience and ran HAM once, which resolved it. HAM came up with 2 updates instead of one (dependency problem ?) and managed to upgrade to the latest version.

I updated to the new kernel too and I LOVE IT !
My phone is much faster, snappier than almost ever before, and I have tried a lot !
PKv47, latest CSSU update, LV, CPU 250 - 805 MHz with SmartReflex Enabled .

Woohoo, I Luv my phone !

J4ZZ	2011-05-04 08:20

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v47

Quote:

Originally Posted by jo21 (Post 999824)

for those installed multoboot

kernel-bootimg gets pulled ie not installed.

sudo update again

and do apt-get install kernel-power-bootimg

It says that it needs to uninstall "multiboot-kernel-power" That's not good is it?

slender

2011-05-04 08:43

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v47

Quote:

Originally Posted by pali (Post 999646)

I'm ignoring all posts about battery temperature... :mad::mad::mad:

Welcome to talk.maemo.org dear devel. Prepare yourself to complete shaitstorm of our dear fellow and eager testers that do not have time to read. Also thanks to this places very very open environment that allows all kinds of conversation going on so that we do need only tiny winy moderation. It has proven to be effective way since dawn of vbulletin *facepalm*. At least we have effectively managed to drive away some devels that do not have so called thick skin.

So do not wonder why some devels like to hang out rather in IRC and mailing lists :|

.edit
And btw. Huge thanks for your amazing work!

misiak

2011-05-04 08:43

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v47

Quote:

Originally Posted by J4ZZ (Post 999866)

It says that it needs to uninstall "multiboot-kernel-power" That's not good is it?

Multiboot-kernel-power package is not needed anymore, because everything needed for multiboot is in kernel-power-bootimg package now.

Pali, confirming that uploaded packages work, great job :)

pawelstryju

2011-05-04 08:48

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v47

Quote:

Originally Posted by misiak (Post 999873)

Multiboot-kernel-power package is not needed anymore, because everything needed for multiboot is in kernel-power-bootimg package now.

yes, it's true, because multiboot-kernel-power refers to v46 i think. (correct me if i'm wrong). I manually renamed files (bootimage and entry for multiboot) and got working n11 vostok witk kp47 on maemo. I don't know it has implemented this wl1251 drivers? For me packet injection is working.

pali	2011-05-04 08:54

Re: kernel-power patches/updates

Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 999852)

If we can provide correct update dependences and it will be tested that it works, then there is no problem.

But I need know this: What happends if I update only kernel with dsp patches? It is possible to boot phone (but all videos will be closed/crashed)?

And for bq27x00_battery module: This modele is not in default stock Nokia kernel. So it does not break anythink...

PS: please responce/send me message by email. This thread is now big and I can loose your posts!

Quote:

Originally Posted by J4ZZ (Post 999866)

It says that it needs to uninstall "multiboot-kernel-power" That's not good is it?

Yes this is good. Kerne power boot image has own support for multiboot (it does not depends on other packages).

Quote:

Originally Posted by aligatro (Post 999753)

Sorry I do not have time to backporting drivers from new version... If you can provide me patch which backport it I can include it in new version.

niqbal

2011-05-04 09:07

Re: kernel-power patches/updates

Quote:

Originally Posted by lolloo (Post 999592)

I see you have got power 47 to work with injections modules, would you kindly direct me how you got it working please.

thanks.

I did absolutely nothing. Just loaded the bleeding edge wifi driver on top of kernel v47. it seems to integrate, is everything working properly? i am not the right person to answer that. Linux gurus can answer that. But i can tell you that lsmod output does show wl1251 loaded and being used. I have not had any problems so far. I am behind a wireless router.

vi_	2011-05-04 09:07

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v47

Quote:

Originally Posted by pali (Post 999646)

I'm ignoring all posts about battery temperature... :mad::mad::mad:

Just ignore the sh|tkickers who are to dumb to read ( Yes I am PERSONALLY insulting EVERYONE who has said somthing about the temperature being out by a factor of 10, except bratag.)

I have your temperature widget right here:

Code:

echo $(cat /sys/class/power_supply/bq27200-0/temp) | awk '{ print $1/10}'

Put that in your | and smoke it. Now shut up and let the man code.

MohammadAG

2011-05-04 09:50

Re: kernel-power patches/updates

Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 999852)

I saw you recently become a part of CSSU team, well, tell me, should we hang MAG for including QT 4.7.2 with broken raster renderer in CSSU and breaking most of QT apps?

Yes, you should :)
(But that wouldn't help with the bug would it now?)

Back on topic, OMP uses mafw, and so does the stock player, if anything needs to be done to get 720p playback, it's in mafw-gst-renderer's sources (which aren't that bad to read tbh, lots of comments to help you find your way through etc)

eefo	2011-05-04 10:09

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v47

my n900 has gone mad o.o
after updating to v47 cpufre showing temperatue above 400 o.o
and the frequencies are 500 minimum and 600 maximum.
and i am damn sure it is not normal .
what to do to get temp back on track ?

Russe89

2011-05-04 10:15

Re: [Announce] kernel-power v47

Quote:

Originally Posted by eefo (Post 999914)

2 posts above... is it explained with the temps...
and the frequencies:
try

Code:

sudo kernel-config limits 250 750

for minimum 250 and maximum 750...

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