Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 

The latest update that just came out, I installed it and not when i hit the search button the keyboard does not come up.

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Are you referring to OS2006 or OS2007HE for the 770?

Bill

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>Are you referring to OS2006 or OS2007HE for the 770?

os2006, second update

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How do I update?

My package manager doesn't show any new packages to install. And all these posts and lists of fixes and whatnot don't do anything so simple and straightforward as *link to the damn thing* muttermuttermutter.

I tried going to the site and tapping the install link, and it told me it was already installed.

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 

Press it twice.

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I know that problem, now it just does not work at all. A temp fix is to hit the center button and it brings up the thumb pad.

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I guess you are talking about the news item in:

http://browser.garage.maemo.org/news/

?

I just tried the install on my new N770 and got the following error:

Unable to install microb-browser
Packages missing:
libxt6 | xlibs > 4.1.0

Any advice on fixing this?

Maybe I don't have the second update, but the Nokia site tells me that I have the latest version: "OS 2006 edition v. 3.2006.49-2"

TIA Don.

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 

I found the answer to this in the third posting in this thread - which would be a much more appropriate place to discuss microb on the 770:

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ead.php?t=9125

Don.

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I'm still sticking to Opera, even after the latest MicroB updates. The reason is that in Opera I can use the pager (aka the D-pad) to page up and down, in MicroB I must use the scrollbar. That is simply too painful. In opera I could just set Down/Up to Page Down/Page up in .opera/input.ini, until there's an equally simple configuration (or default) for MicroB I don't want to switch.

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Is holding the pad for a second longer really that hard?

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Does it matter? One should be able to modify an open-source browser to do whatever they want, within reason.
This is entirely within reason.
I have Opera setup the same way, makes reading pages faster. I've also disabled the scroll-bars in Opera so that I have that much more screen real-estate and can display more text. It's the perfect mobile browser for me since I don't tend to use many sites that would need me to jump over to the micro-b engine.
Operaa also tends to render pages faster than the current micro-b browser.
Once micro-b comes up to par with Opera in page rendering speed then I'll probably look at switching.

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 

A bug i noticed the context menu keeps on popping up whenever i select a link. It only seems to happen when using the stylus to click links with a BT keyboard.
Very annoying.

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a) That used to work, it does nothing in the latest incarnation of microb. At least on my N800.
b) And it's not the same as paging _at all_, it's horrible. It's a kind of jerky, slow, multi-line scrolling.

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Agreed, that's one of my biggest pet peeves re: the 770 -- system scrolling speed should be adjustable. I'd love to avoid using the stylus to read pages and RSS feeds but it's...so...damn...slow...

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You're right. Then there's no reason to bother anyone about it because you can just recompile the code yourself with what you want.

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I installed the MicroB browser, and now when I check the "Set Engine" "MicroB" is selected - no matter if I choose Opera - MicroB is always hi-lighted. To top that off, I'm pretty sure Opera is the browser that is set on my N800 as when I go to Google docs, it says I need a compatible browser such as Mozilla, Firefox, seamonkey, or IE.

I noticed that the developers state on their garage page that bugs should be reported to Bugzilla. But for the life of me, I can't find where to report the bug. I even signed up to the garage, but I still can't find this place.

Can someone link me?

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Thanks for taking the time to actually read this thread.

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Seconded. ;)

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I just installed MicroB today. The one thing I've noticed that I find really annoying is that holding down the stylus on a link does not bring up the simulated 'right-click'. Thus, I see no way to open links in new windows. Anyone else gotten this to work?

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Works for me, although it doesn't work every time - if I don't get the rotating circle within a second or so I know it's not going to work so I drag the stylus off the link before raising it (to avoid initiating a single click and following the link) then I try again and it usually works.

Re: Mozilla-based Browser for the Nokia N800
 

Does anyone now where in the file structure the prefs are stored for the app?

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If you had bothered to search, you would have found this thread:

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...light=prefs.js

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I actually did a search on the forum first. I guess I wasn't using the magic search terms. :p Thanks.

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I've somehow lost the single click link following. Only way I can follow links is holding down stylus till context menu opens. Starts happening shortly after starting n800 and browsing sites with MicroB.

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I installed the MicroB browser and it works good on some sites but Opera works better on other sites. For example, if you go to Wall Street Journal website (even iPhone browser crashes on that web site sometimes), MicroB browser handles it poorly and loses the Touch-scrolling completely. You have to use scollbar on the Wall Street journal website: http://online.wsj.com/home/us

Also, here is another example of site that works fine when using Opera engine but goes in a loop when using the MicroB browser: http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E...ef/techref.htm

If anyone has any tips on how to make these two web pages work properly on Micro-B browser, I would greatly appreciate it.

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File bugs on the Maemo bugzilla.

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I did install Mozilla etc. 2 weeks ago and am not happy. The microb-browser does not work better then Opera. As reported below the browser does not work well with many sites, for example not wrapping the text on www.Reuters.com correctly The browser is obviously slower than opera. I could not find any advantages of AJAX other than better linking up with Google mail and Google docs, which is a problem in Opera. Maps works on both if Opera links to maps. Disappointing. :(

Abel.

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The browser is in beta.

And the experience can be subjective. For me, microb DOES work better than Opera because of my particular needs.

If you want microb to improve, post your experiences and needs on Bugzilla.

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It's a beta. It's expected to have problems.

If you're not happy installing beta software, don't. If you are, accept the implicit contract that by making this software available for use prior to release (and potentially suffering "negative" press), it's your responsibility to raise good bugs in Bugzilla.

Installing it, not raising bugs and just moaning on forums makes it less likely for Nokia to announce plans of future releases of IT OS (rather than Maemo), release more beta software and many of the other things many of us are advocating they do to be more open.

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I fully agree about raising good bugs. It is a tremendous accomplishment to build a browser that works as well as the Micob. However I am sure you will agree that any serious discussion must be based on facts and it is a fact that Opera works sometimes better on the N800. As mentioned before Opera lacks AJAX and that (probably) makes working in het Google environment slow and sometimes simply not possible. Here, MicroB is much nicer. It is also a fact that Google docs does not work with Opera and does with Microb - but still too slow.

I noted from your http://www.bleb.org that you are a very strong Mozilla / Firefox advocate. That is all very nice, but should not cover up serious comments. For the record: I am not a Microoft advocate: on the contrary.

Regards, Abel.

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Of course, because - as I said - microb's in beta. Without raising bugs, it won't get better. Getting it better is in everyone's interest as surely Nokia's long-game with microb is to drop Opera and ship microb as standard.

This'd give them a browser they can ship as part of Maemo, rather than just IT OS; a codebase over which they have control and can access; reduced costs and a better-supported browser in terms of sites etc.

It's a ~300MHz ARM, it's never going to be quick for the type of interpreted language, network-heavy, NP-complete problems associated with a rich web application.

Opera doesn't "lack" AJAX - it's not a feature which can be compiled in to a browser; it's a concept describing using features such as asynchronous requests, JavaScript and DOM manipulation to enrich a web application. Opera supports this perfectly. The problem is that many of these websites don't support, either through explicit blocking or lack of testing, Opera - primarily due to its lack of market share.

No, I'm an advocate for good browsers. Currently Firefox is the best, but this is besides the point for this discussion - we're not on desktop PCs, we're on resource-constrained Internet tablets.

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Very good explanation, Andrew.

I think it is important to note here a typical aspect of beta software: it is optimized for functionality, not speed. Speed comes later after the feature set is closed. I am willing to bet microb will eventually outperform Opera.

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Thanks for the info. Won't Gecko 1.9 code be frozen soon and FF 3.0 released around November or December? Is there any reason to think that Mozilla will release another version of microB roughly simultaneously or soon thereafter?