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Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

shishtox ; should be noted that it doesnt run meego, but maemo6 renamed meego harmattan. reviews ive read have all had faulty or incomplete info in them. link me some reviews and i can dissect them for you if you want.

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

Can someone who's been brave enough to enable dev give me the output of the following on an N9:

Code:

cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*

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Originally Posted by marrat (Post 1108033)

Sync over USB seems not possible currently...

BUT: Sync with local Outlook items works over Bluetooth! At least under Windows 7.

You pair the both devices and let Windows run through all the setup stuff. Then you open you N9 device in the "Devices and Printers" and then the Bluetooth page for the pairing comes up. There you can select to sync your items.

EDIT: @jalyst I think this is one of the tips that should definitely be in the OP!

Thanks Marrat!!! The beer is yours! Cheers mate!

Bluetooth you say?!?! Thats even better than the USB cable - I must admit that was a very, very big turnoff for me!! :D

I'm sorry, but in all fairness I think I have to issue a warning to all(many/few?!) of those who are planning to buy the N9, and who intend to use it for business purposes (Outlook Mail and Calendar syncronization). That will NOT be possible if your company is using Mobile Device Management (MDM) systems.

The MDM systems work by installing an MDM app on the device - and without it, the device won't be allowed access to the Mail for Exchange (MfE) server.

As far as my investigations show, the N9 doesn't support this, as there is currently no MDM clients for it.

I've been asking the Nokia people I could get in contact with here on TMO, if it is likely that there will be such a client in the future. But as far as I understand, it is not likely.

Personally I think that is a great shame. I think we've only seen the beginning of MDM, and it will be really interesting to see if this will be a showstopper for others.

Personally I'll check out the opportunity to sync via Bluetooth. The things I'm willing to do to get this phone - it's unbelievable!! :D

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Originally Posted by marrat (Post 1108033)

Woo-hoo, it works! Thanks for the tip. :) I had to first bang my head against the tree for a while, before I noticed to update my laptop's bluetooth drivers & software. After that it worked like a thought.

However, as I had synced same calendar entries first via my E71, I have now double entries in N9's calendar. But that's a small prize to be paid.... :)

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Anyone know if it can support openvpn?
Stock Android can't due to missing kernel module.

aka. does it contain the tun module (tun.ko)

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Originally Posted by MortenS (Post 1108131)

Thanks Marrat!!! The beer is yours! Cheers mate!

Great, where can I redeem it? ;)

I have to admit that I stole that solution from the Whirlpool.net.au forums, where someone came up with this in the Nokia N9 thread. But it's definitely not a bad idea to have it also here...

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Originally Posted by kai_en (Post 1108067)

One feature i would like to have on N9 is to use the standby screen to show the upcoming calendar and To - Do say for the next 3 days. Right now Calendar is pretty useless without being shown anywhere like a widget in symbian phone

I think the same. I use Calendar Home Widget in almost an entire desktop today in my n900.

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Originally Posted by lsolano (Post 1108183)

I think the same. I use Calendar Home Widget in almost an entire desktop today in my n900.

Showing the upcoming calendar entries as some kind of widget works with this "workaround": Go in the calendar to the upcoming view and then just swipe away to have it in the multitasking view (seen in the picture at the top left)

For me, this is perfectly fine.

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

thats how i use calendar and anything i wish to be widgeted.

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Originally Posted by slai (Post 1108200)

thats how i use calendar and anything i wish to be widgeted.

Yeah, works quite well actually... I like it even better than widgets, but I have to say that I never really used widgets in the past... But as everything it's a matter of personal taste.

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Hey, does anyone know if I can disable smileys in the messages? I goddamn hate them.. Thanks

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

same here, marrat. i tried using them. i made an effort. but i always ended up with a screen that had some minimalistic looking shortcuts to sms, g+, fb, phone, clock, calendar, browser and thats about it. so screw widgets.

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Any tips how to sync several google calendars?

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Originally Posted by Petteri (Post 1108237)

Any tips how to sync several google calendars?

I think it should work when you set them up as CalDAV accounts... But don't know the details, though...

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

Nokia PC-suite works for syncing! Tried it on windows 7 and the good old program works just fine!

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Ok, so I just finished reading all 26 pages, and I just want to know (maybe I missed it), but is there any answers/updates to the following questions:

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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1105576)

what exactly does Bluetooth 4.0 bring to the table that's currently being utilized by the N9 - and it is confirmed that it's BT4, right?

I also find it very strange that a software upgrade can boost BT2.1 to BT4.0... Any documentation on this? Also, if it only a pure rumor that BT4.0 can support payment a-la NFC?

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Originally Posted by jakiman (Post 1105780)

I have asked this to the N9 developer who's in the camera/video/audio middleware s/w team. He said he only does the camera part and will ask the guy who sits next to him who does the video playback part when he goes into work. (so will need to wait till Monday I guess) He's going to check if it is supposed to be able to handle Main profile H264. (High profile is a definite no go I believe) But he said he is sure that N9 supports 720p H264 Base profile.

720 MKV files are very important to me, thats pretty much my main format used for videos. Has your friend confirmed any of this? Could it be achievable thru custom kernels or software upgrade in the future? Or is the hardware really crippled to that point...

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Originally Posted by shishtox (Post 1108061)

Hi to all Linux & Maemo Wizardes
<snip>
To be honest, N900 was my first Linux encounter, <snip>
N9 is not a cheap device, and honestly I lost my trust in Nokia in general, but I always trusted the developers community, <snip> is it Worth the Money ?

Mind that my opinion is not an expert at all, N900 was also my first Linux encounter, fell in love with it, made me install Ubuntu on my PC, and I just love the Maemo Community... But as far as answering your question... I think the only answer that has been given is, if you have the money to spare, then go ahead and buy the N9. If you will have to struggle, save up for it, then I imagine it is not really that worth it... But since I'm hard-headed, I'm gonna go ahead and struggle for 2 weeks by spending an entire paycheck on a phone, because my N900 is really starting to let me down (I can't even reflash it...), I refuse to go do the Android road, iOS is a joke to me, and I have no business with BB so not interested. By the time Nokia actually releases WP7, I could probably afford to buy one if it comes to be more interesting than the N9 (which I really hope not...)

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

jalyst, is there something new about photo quality and Damien Dining thing?

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Originally Posted by mece (Post 1108116)

Can someone who's been brave enough to enable dev give me the output of the following on an N9:

Code:

cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*

Sure. If someone tells me how to select text in terminal... ;)

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Originally Posted by olympus (Post 1108331)

jalyst, is there something new about photo quality and Damien Dining thing?

Actually it was jakiman (aka shootspeak) who had the conversation with Damian Dinning.

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help! (default browser)

On my brand new N9 I've installed Firefox (Aurora since I like living on the edge)

Does anyoene know how to make it the default browser?

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Originally Posted by slarti (Post 1108343)

Sure. If someone tells me how to select text in terminal... ;)

Do not know how to select text in terminal, but in my brand new N9 command

Code:

cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* > cat.txt

spits out a file which has following content:

Code:

deb https://qa9recEP:Pat2UGuP@downloads.maemo.nokia.com/harmattan/001 ./

deb https://qa9recEP:Pat2UGuP@downloads.maemo.nokia.com/harmattan/apps ./

deb https://qa9recEP:Pat2UGuP@downloads.maemo.nokia.com/harmattan/tools ./

deb-exec /usr/bin/osa

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help! (default browser)

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Originally Posted by itpastorn (Post 1108384)

On my brand new N9 I've installed Firefox (Aurora since I like living on the edge)

Does anyoene know how to make it the default browser?

If browser-switchboard has been ported, use that. You'll have to check the wiki to see if it has been done yet (or is even being worked on.)

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Originally Posted by Petteri (Post 1108237)

Any tips how to sync several google calendars?

By using CalDav, as explained here http://wiki.meego.com/Migrating_from...ogle_Calendars

I synced my primary (my own) calendar with MfE, but all additional calendars with
https://www.google.com/calendar/dav/username/

(Using the other person's Google username worked for me, didn't even have to do the uuid@group.calendar.google.com bit that the wiki page mentions).

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Originally Posted by ziller (Post 1108403)

Tried that. Only syncing the primary works and only if I put www.google.com on the url (so no /calendar/dav/...). The gui seem to suggest a list of calendars, but there is only the primary available.

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Originally Posted by Petteri (Post 1108411)

Tried that. Only syncing the primary works and only if I put www.google.com on the url (so no /calendar/dav/...). The gui seem to suggest a list of calendars, but there is only the primary available.

Yeah... the list does suggest that. I got my additional (shared calendars) to work with my google email address as username, my password as password (obviously) and the other person's shared calendar URL as server/url:

https://www.google.com/calendar/dav/otherpersonsemail@gmail.com/

Note that trailing slashes matter. Afterwards I got a list of calendars, with only one calendar in it...

Reading the wiki page suggests that there are more than one approach to do this though, looks like everyone's google calendar behaves slightly differently =/

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Originally Posted by marrat (Post 1108344)

Actually it was jakiman (aka shootspeak) who had the conversation with Damian Dinning.

my mistake.. well, same question for him then :P

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

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Originally Posted by marrat (Post 1108196)

The problem with your work around is that, the Calender "widget" will be moved further down each time you open an app, and you would not be able to view it anymore. I never like Calender widget actually, i would prefer it to be shown on the standby screen as a sort first glance information everytime you use your phone to remind you something needs to be done.

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Originally Posted by Petteri (Post 1108411)

Tried that. Only syncing the primary works and only if I put www.google.com on the url (so no /calendar/dav/...). The gui seem to suggest a list of calendars, but there is only the primary available.

You can select other calendars to be synced together with the primary thru this web-page: https://www.google.com/calendar/iphoneselect. But it seems limited to your own calendars.

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

guys need ur help...
i installed opera 11 with x terminal...
however its still buggy so wanted to remove it...
went to the file folder to remove it but unable to delete it..
any help in this?
is it possible to restore it to factory setting..

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

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Originally Posted by marrat (Post 1108033)

Sync over USB seems not possible currently...

seems that sync over USB works via old PC Suite...
check out this page:
http://myn9.blogspot.com/2011/10/6-t...ing-n9-to.html

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shansp3 (Post 1108583)

Do not "remove" files to uninstall programs (at least as you would not in any desktop OS).
I'm not familliar with the N9 but you should do something along the way of

Code:

dpkg -P {package}

see there for dpkg

N9 security code

I tried to enable the security code, but wasn't able to do that because I didn't know the default code. But somehow it got enabled and now the phone is asking me to enter the security code when I restarted the phone. Does anyone know what the default security code is? I already tried 12345 and 00000. And no, I haven't changed the code myself, because I didn't know the default code.

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Check your phones manual?

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Originally Posted by slai (Post 1108100)

@Slai

here is one http://gearburn.com/2011/10/a-not-so...-the-nokia-n9/
http://all420works.com/?p=1425

most of them say that it's main problem that it's running a doomed OS :(

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Originally Posted by IsaacDFP (Post 1108322)

Ok, so I just finished reading all 26 pages, and I just want to know (maybe I missed it), but is there any answers/updates to the following questions:

I also find it very strange that a software upgrade can boost BT2.1 to BT4.0... Any documentation on this? Also, if it only a pure rumor that BT4.0 can support payment a-la NFC?

720 MKV files are very important to me, thats pretty much my main format used for videos. Has your friend confirmed any of this? Could it be achievable thru custom kernels or software upgrade in the future? Or is the hardware really crippled to that point...

Mind that my opinion is not an expert at all, N900 was also my first Linux encounter, fell in love with it, made me install Ubuntu on my PC, and I just love the Maemo Community... But as far as answering your question... I think the only answer that has been given is, if you have the money to spare, then go ahead and buy the N9. If you will have to struggle, save up for it, then I imagine it is not really that worth it... But since I'm hard-headed, I'm gonna go ahead and struggle for 2 weeks by spending an entire paycheck on a phone, because my N900 is really starting to let me down (I can't even reflash it...), I refuse to go do the Android road, iOS is a joke to me, and I have no business with BB so not interested. By the time Nokia actually releases WP7, I could probably afford to buy one if it comes to be more interesting than the N9 (which I really hope not...)

@IsaacDFB

Much Appreciated, and i have to say with no doubt that you and I think exactly the same, after the N900 it seems like a joke to to iOS or Android , and money wise, it's not a big of a problem, still reading review almost every day, but aat the end I have my mind set on it, and hope i'll love it as i loved the N900 ;)

Cheers Mate :)

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Originally Posted by shishtox (Post 1108725)

@Slai

here is one http://gearburn.com/2011/10/a-not-so...-the-nokia-n9/
http://all420works.com/?p=1425

most of them say that it's main problem that it's running a doomed OS :(

http://konttoristhoughts.blogspot.co....html?spref=tw

read that. it's all about perception. sensationalism sells, so using "doomed os" will grab hits more then "support for the next few years" edit: not the article i posted but the quoted one.

another thing and the most important thing. form your own opinion, try it and see for yourself, don't be lead by what others tell you to do. if you don't like it then you dont like it, if you do then you do, but at least you went by your own experiences.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by erendorn (Post 1108614)

Do not "remove" files to uninstall programs (at least as you would not in any desktop OS).
I'm not familliar with the N9 but you should do something along the way of

Code:

dpkg -P {package}

see there for dpkg

You sir are a genius...it worked like a charm.tq

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Has "get_iplayer" been made available for the N9 yet?

I know you need to be root to use it, and the Aegis situation could be a problem.

That alone will decide whether i get the N9 or stick with my N900.

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Originally Posted by shishtox (Post 1108725)

@Slai

here is one http://gearburn.com/2011/10/a-not-so...-the-nokia-n9/
http://all420works.com/?p=1425

most of them say that it's main problem that it's running a doomed OS :(

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A series of patterns
The interface, a simplified Linux mobile OS known as Meego is crap and hey, it still looks like Symbian. There is no excuse for Nokia having to release a phone this beautiful with such a backwards and archaic OS. The genius implementation of the general interface is lost with the sloppy OS. If the N9 was paired with an Android or Windows 7 mobile OS, then the phone would truly shine.
I can see what Nokia has tried to do here though. “Don’t bury your head in the sand, find what you want and carry on with your life”, the interface intones. What it does not realise though is that we have become accustomed to phones that mirror our social interactions. Head down, mute and with the soft glow of a screen running over our face is the way life is. Attempting to change this result delivers an OS like Meego.
The OS has a single redeeming feature though, known as the carousal. There is no “point A to point B”. Instead, there is one single line of consciousness which repeats itself from left to right, up and down, whatever. Swipe off the edge of the glass on an open app and the app pauses, shifts like a playing card on a full deck and remains in a tabbed sheet of apps until it needs to be reactivated. This is remarkably innate and without instruction from the phone, I was able to understand the OS fully from intuition alone.
The home screen is a disgusting page of “squircle” apps which give the candybar form of the N9 a very childish appeal. You cannot create folders meaning that over time your homepage begins to fill up with unwanted apps. How hard was it to create folders Nokia?

Basically what hes saying is that he wants a phone to sit around and look at the homescreen of, which isnt how the N9 was made, and that his personal taste on the icon pack supplied with the phone is not positive. Also as an addon he thinks it reminds him of Symbian.

The solution to problem 2 is to get an icon pack when/if available.

The solution to problem 1 is "dont review a phone thats made for X as if its made for Y", I guess. He wants a homescreen to sit around idle in, whereas the N9 isnt made for that at all but rather the opposite.

The addon: hes a ******. It reminds of symbian in the way that it has touchactivated tasks, and has icons representing things.

He also doesnt like that there are no folders in the appgrid. Im sure we can put folders in the appgrid sometime soon, but theres no real reason to if you organize your most used apps up top anyways. Writing this I realize its a very defensive way to put it, and I have to say that folders wouldnt have subtracted from the experience, so I agree there should be folders and a few more options on sorting apps (alphabetically, most used, etc).

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It’s everything you require right out of the box. I need more though, I need an all you can eat buffet and so will everyone else.

He writes this about apps. I disagree, it doesnt have everything you will require out of the box. However I also disagree that you need an all you can eat buffet of apps. You need some basics, and some innovative and good ones, you dont need 40 versions of gravity-running-games, a million puzzle games that spew commercials at you, tony hawks skatedudemasteryosup 8 HD, ninety Talking TomCat varieties, etc. IMO.

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The best mobile camera on the market

Its fast. N8 seems to still beat the crap out of it though, qualitywise.

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The N9’s ace in the hole
The battery. It’s fantastic. After using the phone constantly for three days, the battery level is barely on 50% — it is absolutely astonishing how far Nokia has squeezed the power of this phone. Listening to music, watching YouTube, browsing the internet and more means nothing to the N9 and it continues to soldier on and on and on…

Not mine. day and a half, ca. With 3.5g on, FB chat active, no pushmail, feed set to mynokiablog, nokia conversations and twitter, brightness set to lowest.

Basically they view Maemo6 in a negative light because they feel it reminds them somewhat of Symbian, which IMO it doesnt (coming from S60v5 and S^3 Anna and Belle).

They also seem to be negative towards apps, which is a legitimate concern I guess. Personally Im not a huge "app" nut, so for me its irrelevant as long as the most key things are getting done (go community go!).

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Simple. It’s a phone with (at best) a very limited future. MeeGo runs like a greased weasel on the hardware, but the app offering is meagre, and with Nokia’s focus rather solidly being on Windows Phone 7, it’s a handset with a limited shelf life if you want a smartphone that’ll go beyond that core smartphone experience. If your wants are limited and you’re after an excellent looking phone it’s a fair buy, although clearly Nokia’s going to have an uphill battle convincing the mass market to buy the N9 rather than the equally consumer-friendly iPhone 4S.

I dont really get the whining about support. If they support it for 6 months and give me 2 updates to the OS, Im extatic. Its a phone, not a god damn house. You will trade it in for another phone within a year or so, if youre anything like me. Maybe 2 years if the community develops into anything resembling what we had for the N900.

Look at where N900 started and look at it today. Quite a change, imo.

Course, if you want to buy a phone that will last you 4 years... youre not really big on tech and whatnot anyways, and probably wont even bother updating your phone, so the point is moot.

Iunno, I guess I just dont get the whole "OS is doomed = OMG STAY AWAY" logic.

My take at least

Re: N9 owners: answer questions & get help!

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Originally Posted by deadmalc (Post 1108143)

Anyone know if it can support openvpn?
Stock Android can't due to missing kernel module.
aka. does it contain the tun module (tun.ko)

Could've sworn I read something about the status of that at the meego forum.
I can't remember specifics now sorry....
There was a thread in the handsets sub-forum there...
Maybe go back a mth or so & work your way to the present, or search for openvpn in subject line?
If you do find something, please share it here, thanks!

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Originally Posted by olympus (Post 1108331)

jalyst, is there something new about photo quality and Damien Dining thing?

You're best off asking jakiman, he had a direct line with Damien.
But I don't think Damien actually told him much...
I really do hope they re-tune AMBR for PR1.1, if not, then PR1.2.
ATM motion compensation is too agressive, & creating too much noise in pictures.

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Originally Posted by shishtox (Post 1108725)

here is one http://gearburn.com/2011/10/a-not-so...-the-nokia-n9/

That guy's review was a joke...
He didn't offer any solid arguments as-to-why the UI/OS is so terrible, just vague arty farty statements.
Plus he just kept repeating "it's horrid", as if that alone is enough to form a coherent argument.
Best cameraphone on the market? Pfft, there's at least two others that are better. That's not it's focus, it's an all-rounder.
There's a ph coming from panasonic (IIRC), that looks more like a camera than a ph, & it'll take way better pictures.
You do yourself no favour by absorbing anything he wrote.