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mrsellout 2012-07-23 22:28

Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
@ w00t. I don't know about that. I think it's good to show the bits of progress you make because it shows that the platform is still alive, and it might encourage a few more people to test out the images or even contribute some code.

pelago 2012-07-24 10:02

Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
w00t, please continue to post screenshots. I for one am very interested in Nemo, but not quite enough to make me reflash my N900, so rely on screenshots and videos to see how things are progressing.

Wonko 2012-07-24 10:33

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First of all, thanks a lot w00t for all your work and keeping this thread alive. :)

Secondly, I take this as motivation to also post some screenshots of some work Nicola and me are doing. We are currently working on the qmlcalendar app.

Attached screenshots show the icon that displays the current day of month. This functionality is essentially based on thp's script for Harmattan and was adapted to work with Nemo as systemd service. Thanks again thp. :)

Furthermore, it is possible to switch between months by using a swipe gesture. That's what the last image is supposed to show. It is admittedly a little hard to see but this last image was taken while swiping from right to left.

w00t 2012-07-24 11:03

Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pelago (Post 1242121)
w00t, please continue to post screenshots. I for one am very interested in Nemo, but not quite enough to make me reflash my N900, so rely on screenshots and videos to see how things are progressing.

I will still be posting. The main thought I have is - what state things should be in before posting. Right now, I'm treating this like a proper open source project: I'm posting things I work on, and others work on, perhaps before they're in a finished state (in the case of messaging, far from it: there's a lot to do).

This is good because it's accurate: here's what we have now - but it's not in a product-ready state at all. Far from it. And the criticism that it looks bad is totally correct.

w00t 2012-07-24 11:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wonko (Post 1242136)
Secondly, I take this as motivation to also post some screenshots of some work Nicola and me are doing. We are currently working on the qmlcalendar app.

Nice work on the calendar. I have some feedback for you guys - this may not apply as it looks like the version of calendar I have is a bit old (if you have something newer, remember to integrate it, so others can test! ;))

I think you should either lock orientation to portrait, or try do some work to adapt to a landscape layout, because right now, it's not that great.

Also, when panning across months, it might be nice to animate the movement of the month name, too.

BTW, what's your nick on IRC? Would be nice to know who I'm talking to :-)

PartyboyXP 2012-07-24 11:29

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Great work w00t and Wonko! Nemo is going very well!

w00t 2012-07-24 12:28

Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
I spent last night prototyping code sharing between applications on the platform. The end result is that the contacts application can now use the gallery's UI for picking avatars:

http://qtl.me/20120724-152641-rot.png

Not yet pushed to OBS, but it will be within the next day or so I guess...

wesq 2012-07-24 16:30

Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by w00t (Post 1242191)
I spent last night prototyping code sharing between applications on the platform. The end result is that the contacts application can now use the gallery's UI for picking avatars:

Not yet pushed to OBS, but it will be within the next day or so I guess...

Cool to see so much visible progress again. I'll definitely need to find my SD-card reader so that I can check the latest images on N900.

acrux 2012-07-24 16:48

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Thank you for the news about continuing development :)
I have tested almost every release of Meego Community Edition and Nemomobile. When we will be able to test that new stuff?

mikecomputing 2012-07-24 17:13

Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
It seems jolla has got people get more intrests in nemomobile :D

Great works guys :D

w00t 2012-07-24 19:03

Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by acrux (Post 1242285)
When we will be able to test that new stuff?

Not sure when the next release will be (yet), but if you install the latest image and zypper ref / zypper up, you should get it all, I hope...

PartyboyXP 2012-07-24 19:22

Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
The conversations will be capable to use sms/msn/facebook/google talk plugins like maemo?

I asked to Jolla in twitter

"The RPM packages will be compatibles with Nemo ?"

@JollaMobile With small modifications, probably yes.

Good news, I think...

Elleo 2012-07-24 23:10

Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
I decided to jump on the Nemo bandwagon and spent the past couple of days porting Tizmee, my Tizen web app compatibility layer, to Nemo. So here's a pretty screenshot of Nemo running a Tizen app:

http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/nemo-mapzen.png

PartyboyXP 2012-07-25 04:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Elleo (Post 1242503)
I decided to jump on the Nemo bandwagon and spent the past couple of days porting Tizmee, my Tizen web app compatibility layer, to Nemo. So here's a pretty screenshot of Nemo running a Tizen app:

http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/nemo-mapzen.png

Thanks for support Nemo!!! :)

acrux 2012-07-26 07:55

Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by w00t (Post 1242388)
Not sure when the next release will be (yet), but if you install the latest image and zypper ref / zypper up, you should get it all, I hope...

Tried that yesterday, but July 2nd release freezed during upgrade - either with "zypper up" or with package manager. Had to remove battery.

Strange thing is that sometimes it is impossible to set the date&time&timezone - the values just do not apply...

However - keep up good work :)

bandora 2012-07-26 08:05

Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
This is looking great! And I would love to put Nemo no my N9! But, noone's answering me if I can do a triple boot? I have NITDroid on my N9 along with Harmattan.. Is there a way to boot into Nemo too? And is there a documentation or wiki that would guide me to do such thing?

w00t 2012-07-26 08:07

Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by acrux (Post 1243111)
Strange thing is that sometimes it is impossible to set the date&time&timezone - the values just do not apply...

https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16 is probably related

acrux 2012-07-26 08:30

Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by w00t (Post 1243119)

Hmm, this seems to be different - the Done button was active, I could click it, but the change was not saved...

w00t 2012-07-26 10:12

Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by acrux (Post 1243124)
Hmm, this seems to be different - the Done button was active, I could click it, but the change was not saved...

can you note that on the bug? perhaps an upgrade has changed things somehow

w00t 2012-07-26 10:13

Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bandora (Post 1243117)
This is looking great! And I would love to put Nemo no my N9! But, noone's answering me if I can do a triple boot? I have NITDroid on my N9 along with Harmattan.. Is there a way to boot into Nemo too? And is there a documentation or wiki that would guide me to do such thing?

I'm not answering simply because I don't know, but: I doubt it's possible, as we need custom bootloading (moslo) to work also.

But that's rather outside my area of expertise...

michaelmhk 2012-07-26 15:37

Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by w00t (Post 1243157)
I'm not answering simply because I don't know, but: I doubt it's possible, as we need custom bootloading (moslo) to work also.

But that's rather outside my area of expertise...

I found a thread:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1182789
dunno it is outdated or not

seanmcken 2012-07-26 16:24

Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
noob question. is it possible to hav tizen with nemo??

Elleo 2012-07-26 19:00

Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by seanmcken (Post 1243355)
noob question. is it possible to hav tizen with nemo??

It's not entirely clear to me what your question is, so sorry if I've misunderstood.

It is possible to run some Tizen applications on Nemo via Tizmee. But it's not possible to dual-boot Nemo and Tizen on any hardware at the moment if that's what you meant.

bandora 2012-07-27 00:48

Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Thanks w00t for ur answer.. I guess I'll until somebody comes up with a new boot for the N9.. I really would love to try Nemo..

w00t 2012-07-29 20:08

Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Thanks again to 'special', Conversations will be having its first release sometime this week, some screenshots (note that these are really being used, not just mockups anymore):

http://i.imgur.com/jOp1c.png

http://i.imgur.com/VLfbV.png

http://i.imgur.com/IaThn.png

http://i.imgur.com/aRcQe.png

Now, a little about what Conversations is... It's an IM application, using Telepathy for the messaging part.

Out of the box, it should support Jabber, possibly Facebook, etc, etc. It's the same plumbing as what the N9 (and N900, and other Maemo devices) use under the hood.

With some work, it should also be able to support SMS (thanks to telepathy-ring), but that's not done yet. What also hasn't been done (yet) is to provide a way to easily configure accounts, set them online, etc. You'll need to do that via a command line tool called 'mc-tool'.

All in all, this is very much 0.0.1-style stuff at the moment, fairly basic in terms of functionality etc, so don't expect everything to just work™, but it's some more very promising progress! I'll be trying to help get the first release pushed to OBS (and Nemo) in the next day or so.

I've also nagged special to come post in this thread, so if you have any questions, feel free to ask, and hopefully he'll be able to help.

Venemo 2012-07-30 20:25

Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Good morning everyone!

The concept has been proven. Yes, it is possible to create a nice and cool looking desktop user experience with QML.

This is based on w00t's prototype called "lipstick". There's still work to be done, but for the moment, let me present you a video on my progress:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zg0NvSaXmY

What works right now:
- App launcher
- Task switcher
- Status bar
- Automatic rotation

Thanks for watching!
If you have any opinions / recommendations / ideas / questions, please don't hesitate to reply to this thread. :)

FAQ:
- Yes, I want it to have widgets.
- Yes, I want it to have an event feed.

NightCrawler 2012-07-31 07:03

Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1234227)
Hi Partyboy,

If call is working for you (and others?), what could I have done wrong?
I flashed the SD image. loaded kernel with u-boot (ah, maybe newest u-boot by pali used) and just opened dialer and entered some munber and pressed green button. But to no avail. Similar on getting called. One time a heard a ringing tone, but no more (no dialer or notification popped up). Later on I did see the missed call on log!?
And: I was connected to network, a sending/receiving SMS worked! (So I thought, similar status as nitdroid?)

And for WLAN: is it possible to enter access data for a hidden network?

Thanks.

I am facing the same issue too. Can some one please shed some light on this

seanmcken 2012-07-31 09:46

Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
we cant merge nemo with maemo?? i mean we can do both things in 1 OS.

don_falcone 2012-07-31 09:59

Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Do you actually know (if ever) what you are talking about ? Hint: Don't volunteer to play the Donny here.

niqt 2012-07-31 10:36

Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
My nick name is niqt (i'm Nicola)

Estel 2012-07-31 21:51

Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
My name is Bond. James Bond *shots niqt off this thread*.

MINKIN2 2012-07-31 22:33

Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
And I'M Spartacus!

But at the weekends I prefer to go by the name of Laura Lushess ;)

:p :p :p


Hi niqt, did you get you n950 sorted?

NightCrawler 2012-08-01 04:53

Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
I am also seeing an issue with the Helium browser. When i open a web page then swipe on the edges to go to multitasking view, switch to some other application and then return back to the browser, the browser shows a dark screen :( . Is any one else seeing this?

w00t 2012-08-01 09:59

Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NightCrawler (Post 1245767)
I am also seeing an issue with the Helium browser. When i open a web page then swipe on the edges to go to multitasking view, switch to some other application and then return back to the browser, the browser shows a dark screen :( . Is any one else seeing this?

what device? can you take a video?

NB: please report a bug (http://bugs.nemomobile.org) otherwise it'll get lost/forgotten

nicolai 2012-08-01 10:43

Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NightCrawler (Post 1245767)
I am also seeing an issue with the Helium browser. When i open a web page then swipe on the edges to go to multitasking view, switch to some other application and then return back to the browser, the browser shows a dark screen :( . Is any one else seeing this?

Me too

Quote:

Originally Posted by w00t (Post 1245878)
what device? can you take a video?

N900

Nicolai

NightCrawler 2012-08-01 11:41

Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by w00t (Post 1245878)
what device? can you take a video?

NB: please report a bug (http://bugs.nemomobile.org) otherwise it'll get lost/forgotten

I am using an n900 too...will try n post a bug asap :)

tswindell 2012-08-01 12:43

Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
I thought as everyone else is pitching in screenshots I'd post some images of the new nemo dialer programme that I've implemented from scratch over the past few weeks :)

http://stage.rubyx.co.uk/voicecall/v...801-134254.png

NightCrawler 2012-08-01 12:55

Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tswindell (Post 1245964)
I thought as everyone else is pitching in screenshots I'd post some images of the new nemo dialer programme that I've implemented from scratch over the past few weeks :)

http://stage.rubyx.co.uk/voicecall/v...801-134254.png

Looks cool tswindell...one qn..will this be integarted in d nxt buid or shud it be installed seperately ?

tswindell 2012-08-01 13:02

Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NightCrawler (Post 1245973)
Looks cool tswindell...one qn..will this be integarted in d nxt buid or shud it be installed seperately ?

It should be in images now :)

NightCrawler 2012-08-01 13:41

Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Can anyone look into the dailer application not launching when recieving calls issue...its pretty annoying :mad:


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