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kojacker 2012-06-10 22:30

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
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Originally Posted by b0unc3 (Post 1220277)
What was decided about 'porting' , it is included in the 'updating' category, or it was cut off?

Hey b0unc3, we're all about bringing applications to the Maemo/MeeGo Harmattan platform so ports are welcome. The current rule in the wiki is:

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Ported applications are welcome, however only the work of porting will be considered (unless the original program is from the same developer and was developed or extended within the competition timeframe). These entries should include a description of work done during the porting process to enable the application to run on the Maemo/MeeGo Harmattan platform.
Ports will be considered as development work on existing applications for judging and therefore fit under the "Updates.." category.

Edit: Oh it's just turned Monday 11th June, we're open for business... cue fireworks!

http://www.s1bathgate.com/files/photo/max-115445.jpg

All - please keep a eye out for new announce threads in the 'Applications' forum section and gently remind them about the competition if you can :) Also I've added a 'Participants' section to the wiki - it's so folks can add their entry details there while the submissions site is getting ready, it will help us keep track of them in the meantime. Working titles for applications are fine, the details entered aren't binding and can always be updated later :)

Tofe 2012-06-11 11:58

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
Yepee ! But now I have to find a name... :p

b0unc3 2012-06-11 14:41

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
The submission site report wrong info, like outdated banner,links etc. Someone could fix it (maybe zehjotkah ? )

kojacker 2012-06-11 14:50

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
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Originally Posted by b0unc3 (Post 1220502)
The submission site report wrong info, like outdated banner,links etc. Someone could fix it (maybe zehjotkah ? )

Thanks b0unc3, don't worry we're aware of that :) zehjotkah's working on it ;)

Actually we mention that the submission site is still to be updated in the wiki:

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Originally Posted by http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_coding_competition_2012#How_to_Submit_an _Application
How to Submit an Application
(NB: The submission site will become live later in the contest, in the meantime please register your participation http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_codi...2#Participants)

To enter, you'll submit your application via the competition submission page. The entry page is currently being prepared and will become available later at http://competition.meetmeego.org/.

And as mentioned here, the reason for adding the 'Participation' section is to track entries in the meantime before they can be submitted through the submission site.

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Originally Posted by kojacker (Post 1220334)
Also I've added a 'Participants' section to the wiki - it's so folks can add their entry details there while the submissions site is getting ready, it will help us keep track of them in the meantime. Working titles for applications are fine, the details entered aren't binding and can always be updated later :)


I think I'm going to remove the submission site url from the wiki competely until it's ready in case it confuses anyone :)

Edit: on second thoughts, it might be useful for new entrants to see the old page for a better understanding of the submission process so I've kept the link in but tried to make it clearer that it is still being updated for 2012. Could someone take a glance over the wiki and let me know if it's still not clear? Thanks!

Here's the relevent parts

http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_Codi...an_Application
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(NB: The submission site will become live later in the contest, in the meantime please register your participation http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_codi...2#Participants)

To enter, you'll submit your application via the competition submission page. This site is currently being prepared and will become available later, however you can view the old 2011 competition site at http://competition.meetmeego.org/.
http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_Codi...application.3F
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There will be an application submission page available and this will be the only valid way to participate in the competition. The submission page for the 2012 competition is still being completed, but you may view the 2011 site here. The 2012 site will be similar.
I'll update the wiki again once the new site is ready :)

b0unc3 2012-06-11 15:33

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
Yes, agree, the old entries should be visibile all the time, also during the competition period. A link to MCC11 on the submission site should be enough.
Anyway, there are any info about the voting process, is it "ready" (in order to didn't get issues as for the last year) ?

kojacker 2012-06-11 15:42

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by b0unc3 (Post 1220539)
Yes, agree, the old entries should be visibile all the time, also during the competition period. A link to MCC11 on the submission site should be enough.
Anyway, there are any info about the voting process, is it "ready" (in order to didn't get issues as for the last year) ?

In regards to voting, I think we learned a lot of lessons from last year's competition in regards to what we need to do for the vote. As the categories were only finalised at the end of last week there hasn't been much preparation for the vote done. Also, as we don't have a final list of entrants obviously we can't get everything "ready" today. But we're almost 3 months away from voting, so there's no panic just yet :) You'll hopefully not hear too much about it as we'll work behind the scenes to get the administration for the vote setup, but we'll keep everyone updated as we go along. I notice the process for counting the votes is already up on the wiki, so once everything is ready expect a voting procedure similar to last time when maemo.org members will choose their champions :)

Khertan 2012-06-12 14:09

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
Is it possible to apply to the competition, but not for the devices prices ? i ve already a n950.

So would like to compet but no need for an other device, i let them to other devel.

kojacker 2012-06-12 14:20

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
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Originally Posted by Khertan (Post 1220934)
Is it possible to apply to the competition, but not for the devices prices ? i ve already a n950.

So would like to compet but no need for an other device, i let them to other devel.

Hi Khertan, it's nice to see you back again in the competition :)

Sure, if you win you could choose a N9 (as you already have a N950) or you can forfeit/nominate your winning prize to the next best placed app developer whilst still retaining your kudos as category winner :cool:

For example, if your Battle.net authenticator app came top we'd shift the prizes down one place, awarding a device to places 2-5 instead of 1-4. Similar if it came in 2nd, 3rd, etc etc.

BTW are you happy with your category as "Desktop, System & Utilities"? My first instinct was 'Gaming..' however it's a utility also.. but a utility for Battle.net gaming service :P It's one of those apps that falls into both categories, I think you could choose either one if you wanted :)

rainisto 2012-06-12 14:50

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
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Originally Posted by kojacker (Post 1220940)
BTW are you happy with your category as "Desktop, System & Utilities"? My first instinct was 'Gaming..' however it's a utility also.. but a utility for Battle.net gaming service :P It's one of those apps that falls into both categories, I think you could choose either one if you wanted :)

If it creates network connection to backend then the obvious place if of course "Network and Communications" -category ;-)

Is it council or who makes the final decisions on category app belongs to before voting starts, so developers can't just wiggle apps to low entry category?

Khertan 2012-06-12 15:01

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Hihi ... it s a security tool ... so in category system ... but it s for a game ... so in category game ... but hey ! it s a tool for authenticate connection, so in networking category !

Yep, i don't know where to put it :)
In fact i apply for the fun of a competition, not for the prize, i didn't need an n9, so i ll forfeit for the next one :)

I didn't think anyway that a such apps while have a great success, but hem, it s usefull for me, so i polish it and release it :)

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Hi Khertan, it's nice to see you back again in the competition
Thx.

ps : took me two hours to code, three to design the icon, two hours for packaging (there was error in PyPackager which are now fixed and released), 1 day for publishing it in apps.formeego.com, and probably more 6 days for Nokia Store QA :)

kojacker 2012-06-12 15:42

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rainisto (Post 1220954)
Is it council or who makes the final decisions on category app belongs to before voting starts, so developers can't just wiggle apps to low entry category?

The developer assigns their own category when they submit their entry, and if it matches with the description it'll stay with that category. If it seems to be mismatched then a contest organiser etc will reach out to the developer to check it's in the right category. If it makes sense then it's all good, else the organiser will work with the developer to find a more appropriate category for it.

In regards to the wiki table, it doesn't really matter right now. It only matters when the application is submitted. So Khertan, you have plenty of time to think about where your Battle.net authenticator is best suited before it's properly submitted for judging :)

BTW rainisto, I notice you're quite a new member of maemo.org (Jan '12) and maybe haven't seen the previous two competitions. You seem pretty interested, and you have the skills clearly with Live-F1 and the BTinput Terminal, are you going to honor us with an entry? I hope you're thinking about it :)

I'm not just shamelessly begging rainisto for an entry :p I've also just realised that with the other device programs going on a lot of coders who entered before have new committments and mightn't have the time to enter this year. So it's important to try and get developers new to the competition on board ;)

zehjotkah 2012-06-12 18:47

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
Hi everyone!

two new donations, by zwevert and qgil.

btw, is there a way to automatically calculate the totals in the wiki chart?
http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_Codi...ity_Prize_Fund

regarding the submission site: as it is running on a friends server, he has to set it up. I've admin rights for the installed system he wrote (contesta), but I don't have access to the server... As we want to keep the old submissions I can't simply delete all categories and set up the new ones...
So I have to wait for him to set it up. Hopefully he'll do it this week. I'm going to bug him a lot... :D

rainisto 2012-06-12 19:06

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kojacker (Post 1220971)
BTW rainisto, I notice you're quite a new member of maemo.org (Jan '12) and maybe haven't seen the previous two competitions. You seem pretty interested, and you have the skills clearly with Live-F1 and the BTinput Terminal, are you going to honor us with an entry? I hope you're thinking about it :)

Yes, I have few applications under development, if they are ready within the time frame, i will submit them to the competition.

PS. New only in TMO, my maemo.org account is Member since 2007-11-15

zehjotkah 2012-06-15 15:17

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
Maybe some of the participants are wondering if the recent announcements from Nokia will affect the coding competition or any other currently running device programs.

Don't worry, there won't be any problems with the devices.

kojacker 2012-06-15 16:13

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
Thanks for the confirmation zehjotkah, thats great to hear :) ^^.

Speaking of prizes, we need to confirm our bounty split - any maths whizz out there who wants to have a go at working out the shares? :) I'd love to get it decided over the weekend.

Oh, and btw we've been 'open' now since Monday and already have 11 users added to the participants table which is a great start! :) (A big thanks to marrat, Khertan, Tofe, 4ndreaSt4gi, titilambert, hiemanshu, chrm, bibek, microe, karmaflux, Shin2_D for signing up so early on). Let's hope the table keeps growing and growing over the coming weeks :cool:

zehjotkah 2012-06-17 13:36

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
New donation by bingomion

Check all donations here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_Codi...ity_Prize_Fund

bibek 2012-06-17 14:47

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
Thanks kojacker. I'm relatively new to the community, but it has been a very interesting journey so far.
Looking forward to being a regular member around here.
The combination of Meego and Qt seems to be extremely tempting for me ;)

lorul2 2012-06-17 23:54

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
Can I get a fre device? :)

I'm not a programmer, I don't have any interesting ideas for development, but I was a firm believer in what Maemo/ Meego and the N900 was all about.

With recent announcements I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask. I hope this "community" and the spirit behind the device live on. Where ever it goes, or turns into I hope to be there.

I'm not pick any color would be nice.;)

kojacker 2012-06-18 00:33

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
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Originally Posted by bibek (Post 1223232)
Thanks kojacker. I'm relatively new to the community, but it has been a very interesting journey so far.
Looking forward to being a regular member around here.
The combination of Meego and Qt seems to be extremely tempting for me ;)

Excellent, it's good to have you onboard bibek :)

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Originally Posted by lorul2 (Post 1223453)
Can I get a fre device? :)

I'm not a programmer, I don't have any interesting ideas for development, but I was a firm believer in what Maemo/ Meego and the N900 was all about.

You can earn a device in our coding competition lorul2, but I'm afraid you can't just have one for free ;) I'm also trying to get 1 or 2 cheap devices for the group of kids I teach, if there were any free I'd already have snapped them up already lol :p

We have 24 devices assigned as prizes, including devices specifically for beginners, so even if you're not a programmer today you have time to become one ;)

Honestly, if you're just not into programming then the coding competition is not the right place to ask :) Perhaps the 'community awards' device program would be the best place for your enquiry? However I think the deadline might have been tonight, you'd need to check that.

zehjotkah 2012-06-18 14:43

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
New donation by mrsellout; 50€
Check all donations here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_Codi...ity_Prize_Fund

almamo 2012-06-18 14:49

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
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Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 1223713)
New donation by mrsellout; 50€
Check all donations here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_Codi...ity_Prize_Fund

Ok so the donations seem to work. I tried to donate but paypal kept showing an error. I'll try it again :)

kojacker 2012-06-18 15:29

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
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Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 1223713)
New donation by mrsellout; 50€

Brilliant - thanks mrsellout! :cool:

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Originally Posted by almamo (Post 1223715)
Ok so the donations seem to work. I tried to donate but paypal kept showing an error. I'll try it again :)

Sorry to hear you had a problem donating almamo, I also had an error the first 3 times I tried :p Because the error message was in German, I hadn't a clue what was going wrong. The problem was I was using a '.' (full stop) instead of a ',' (comma) with the Euro amount. I'm afraid some of us British aren't very used to using Euros, i only worked it out when I pasted the error message into google translate :)

Here's the steps that should enable you to donate:

Step 1) Click on the competition donation link.

Step 2) If you'd like to donate 5 Euros to the competition you'd type in "5,00" into the amount box. Click on the orange colored button that says "Summe neu berechnen" to confirm.
http://kojacker.net/blog/wp-content/..._donation1.png

Step 3) This will update the total on the right hand side with the new amount ('5,00')
http://kojacker.net/blog/wp-content/..._donation2.png

Step 4) Login to paypal (if you haven't already). The login box is towards the bottom right of the page.

Step 5) On the next screen (summary) click on the '+' symbol to open a box to include your maemo.org username (if you have one) or leave a message to zehjotkah how you'd like to be identified (anon, etc)
http://kojacker.net/blog/wp-content/..._donation3.png

Step 6) Finally, click on the "Donate" button just below. All done :)

zehjotkah will update the wiki with the details once the email comes through :)

Edit: I'll add this post to the wiki in case it helps anyone else

almamo 2012-06-18 16:05

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@kojacker: Thank you for your help! German wouldn't have been a problem since I understand and speak it. I got an error once I wanted to confirm the donation. But I still could benefit from your illustrations and yes it worked now :)

zehjotkah 2012-06-18 17:41

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and there we go:
20EUR donated by almamo

Check all blablablubb here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_Codi...ity_Prize_Fund


;)

piggz 2012-06-19 19:32

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
Ive added my entry to the list in the Wiki

rcolistete 2012-06-19 23:26

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Added "Calculus" for MeeGo Harmattan to the 2012 Code Competition, just to participate, not to win any decide. In "2012 Device Program: New Apps for Nokia Store" I am (with "SymPy Interactive Shell" for MeeGo Harmattan) selected to receive a Nokia N9.

ivanph 2012-06-22 05:46

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
Hi, can someone please add me with Music Downloader, multimedia/network, an app to download music, my name is Ivan Pintado, thanks

kojacker 2012-06-22 05:59

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
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Originally Posted by ivanph (Post 1225548)
Hi, can someone please add me with Music Downloader, multimedia/network, an app to download music, my name is Ivan Pintado, thanks

No problem, you're added now Ivan :) I wasn't sure if you were a beginner or not so I left that bit blank for the moment

Tofe 2012-06-22 14:26

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
One question about the "Beginner" entry: does a beginner compete in both the chosen category and the Beginner category at the same time ? Or only in the Beginner category ?

kojacker 2012-06-22 14:37

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
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Originally Posted by Tofe (Post 1225752)
One question about the "Beginner" entry: does a beginner compete in both the chosen category and the Beginner category at the same time ? Or only in the Beginner category ?

Beginner's will be part of both Tofe. So a beginner would align their application with one of the main 5 categories when they enter it, and also at the same time mark it as a beginner entry. We'll pick up the submission and enter it into both categories. Think of it as a little extra incentive to get new developers onboard the Maemo train.

In regards to the competition, a beginner is someone who is releasing their first Maemo/MeeGo/etc application during the competition time frame. Here's the full 'beginner rule':

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•Coding competition entries marked as beginner will also automatically be entered into the beginners contest if they meet the following criteria: entries to the beginners competition must be the authors first released coding project(s) for the Maemo and MeeGo Harmattan platforms, and must have been first released between the competition start and end dates.
I notice you have listed QSyncDAV as a non-beginner entry on the wiki table, do you feel you should change it? Or was your query a more general one? :)

Tofe 2012-06-22 15:05

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
Changed :)

ivgalvez 2012-06-22 16:21

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
Felipe Crochick has decided to move his award (N9) from the Community Awards to the Coding Competition. In his own words:

"I would to suggest it to be a prize for the best maemo/n900 application so we may see more of those."

kojacker 2012-06-22 16:27

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ivgalvez (Post 1225807)
Felipe Crochick has decided to move his award (N9) from the Community Awards to the Coding Competition. In his own words:

"I would to suggest it to be a prize for the best maemo/n900 application so we may see more of those."

Thanks ivgalvez, and a huge thanks to Felipe - that's very generous of him, and very welcome :)

The only question might be how we'd rate the best maemo/n900 application, would it be another voting category for members? Personally, as it's his device to give away, i'd suggest we'd let Felipe choose his own winner from the entries :)

zehjotkah 2012-06-22 16:58

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
Another donations; by P@t

Thanks!
See all donations here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_codi...ity_Prize_Fund

ivanph 2012-06-22 22:34

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kojacker: thanks for adding me, It's my first application, so I'm in begineer category :)

zehjotkah 2012-06-23 05:04

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
Thanks kojacker, for the donation in memory of lcuk; 50EUR:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_Codi...ity_Prize_Fund

kojacker 2012-06-26 09:38

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
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Originally Posted by kojacker (Post 1222364)
Oh, and btw we've been 'open' now since Monday and already have 11 users added to the participants table which is a great start! :) (A big thanks to marrat, Khertan, Tofe, 4ndreaSt4gi, titilambert, hiemanshu, chrm, bibek, microe, karmaflux, Shin2_D for signing up so early on). Let's hope the table keeps growing and growing over the coming weeks :cool:

Indeed the table has been growing :) A big welcome (and thanks) to taixzo, ayushkedia, Taziff, artohyv, piggz, rcolistete, sakya, ivanph, kunal_the_one, and brahim98 for adding their names to the wiki over the past week or so - we've 22 on there now, so it's a great start but we always have room for more! Also great to see some new names and some long time friends of the competition back again too :cool:

in terms of the bounty, we have around €380.00 collected so far and we're still collecting up til the end so that will grow - thank you everyone for being so generous! :cool: We'll have to decide how to split the eventual amount up, so what do you all reckon?

Here's our categories and prizes again (leaving out Felipe's award for best n900 app for the moment):

•Desktop, System & Utilities (2 N950, 2 N9)
•Games, Graphics & Multimedia (2 N950, 2 N9)
•Network & Communications (2 N950, 2 N9)
•Location & Navigation (2 N950, 2 N9)
•Other (2 N950, 2 N9)
•Updates and development on existing apps (2 N950, 1 N9)
•Beginners (made up of entries from the 5 main categories) (2 N950)

I think traditionally we've focused on giving the bounty share to the runners up who maybe wouldn't win a device. We have so many devices this time we have enough even for 4th place in some categories.

So.. first question, we have 7 categories so should we split the bounty pot equally into 7 smaller pots as a beginning?

Second question, should we use for the members who don't win any device, or use it to award the winners who do?

It probably won't be a very large amount awarded to each person, but it's still important we spend your money responsibly ofcourse, so I'm keen to hear your thoughts. :)

zehjotkah 2012-06-28 05:58

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
As promised, helex donated 50,00 EUR;
http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_Codi...ity_Prize_Fund

kojacker 2012-06-28 12:41

Re: 2012 Coding Competition
 
Another big welcome and thanks, this time to swinkels and marmistrz for joining in and adding their names to the participants table. swinkels is developing a nyan cat game - the word 'nyan' is Japanese for meow, right? - interesting to see how that turns out :D marmistrz is making us happy by spoiling us with two entries - MeeCoLay and MaeLyrica :cool:

Looking at the table so far, I notice we have entries for every category except one - poor sad and lonely Location & Navigation :(. My spidey-sense is starting to tingle about this category a little bit. I've asked around but i don't see much development happening in this area right now. I think if there's still no interest shown by the end of the first month - 11th July - we should think about doing something with that category. My initial instinct would be to split up the popular "Games, Graphics, and Multimedia" category (it has 8 entries so far) so "Games" becomes a separate category, and then join "Location" together with "..., Graphics and Multimedia" into a revamped "Location, Graphics, and Multimedia" category. Sound like a plan?

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Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 1228475)

Double thanks helex :cool:

Not much feedback on the bounty split so far so let's throw out a proposal and see if y'all like it.
  • Bounty split into 7 equal shares to cover the 7 categories.
  • The entry placed immediately below the last device winner would win a 55% share of the category share. (In most cases this would be the 5th placed entry)
  • The next ranked user would win 45% of the category share. (In most cases this wouldbe the 6th placed entry).
  • So in total there would be 14 shares of the bounty (2 for each category).
  • The device winners wouldn't receive a bounty share as the device is seen as enough of a prize. However, if they don't want to take up the reward of a device (for exampe, if they have a device already and don't feel they need it) they could swap it with one of the bounty share winners if it's agreed by both people.

In regards to assigning the device prizes, for categories with a mixture of both N950s and N9s available then the first placed winner chooses which they want first, then second place, and so on until they are all allocated.

rcolistete 2012-06-28 15:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kojacker (Post 1228570)
Looking at the table so far, I notice we have entries for every category except one - poor sad and lonely Location & Navigation :(. My spidey-sense is starting to tingle about this category a little bit. I've asked around but i don't see much development happening in this area right now. I think if there's still no interest shown by the end of the first month - 11th July - we should think about doing something with that category. My initial instinct would be to split up the popular "Games, Graphics, and Multimedia" category (it has 8 entries so far) so "Games" becomes a separate category, and then join "Location" together with "..., Graphics and Multimedia" into a revamped "Location, Graphics, and Multimedia" category. Sound like a plan?

I agree with your suggestion.

Mine : looking at Maemo 5 categories, I suggest to change :
- Other
to :
- Education, Science and Other


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