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^ This.
I have no problem paying top dollar for a device with high quality hardware and cutting edge design.
It would seem that Jolla have teamed up with Creoir for their design. These guys are essentially the old in-house Nokia design team rebranded, and they have been responsible for some of the most iconic and innovative designs that have come out of Nokia.

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Ok guys, be honest, none of us give a sh*t of how much the device will cost, we are all kinda loaded, right? :D

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I think eg the camera is closed hardware and unlikely to ever work. With N9 and its huge memory, I suspect porting Sailfish libraries to Harmattan will be the way forward.

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We (well, many of us) did buy a N9 when it was just getting available and expensive, so yeah :D

Indeed, I'm willing to pay premium for a premium device. However "high end" to me is actually something different than full hd, large screens and octacore cpus.

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Often the opposite.

Power usage is proportional to the square of the voltage, so you're better running multiple low voltage cores than one high voltage one.

Also, as we know, the biggest drain on smartphone battery life is what the phone is using when idling. As such, ARM's Big.Little architecture is ideal for smartphones.

All right, the specs comment hit a nerve. First, I own and use devices of all sorts of spec levels. Nokia-wise, I've got an E7, n900, and N9--and each has been my daily driver for extended periods--so I speak from first hand knowledge. And from my experience, specs matter.

My N9 went down the other day, so I was back on my E7 for a full day. Trust me, do this and then ask yourself if specs like RAM and cpu matter--you will agree that they do. Does this make the E7 a bad phone? Of course not. Does the spec imbalance mean that the N9 outperforms it in, say, fluidity and multitasking, for example? You bet your Sailfish.

But if you care about a tilt screen slider QWERTY design running Symbian, the E7 wins hands down. Specs are the hardware foundation of performance, and performance is a key to the device experience, in my opinion. Software can only do so much to make up for hardware deficits. Please prove me wrong by coding my E7 to outperform my N9 in all cases (I love that keyboard). The E7's spec deficit won't get in the way, will it?

We don't know either the HW or final SW that Jolla will bring to market, though Sailfish fills me with hope. But I don't buy that specs don't matter, because in the intense competition that is the mobile phone marketplace, everything matters.

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World Mobile Congress


http://tweakers.net/video/7333/sailfish-os.html

Video Hands On by Tweakers.net nerd and comments as follows:

-interface finished
-browser + notifications not finished

Handling of UI looks very promising + all Android applications available from start.
Dutch KPN already negotiates with Jolla for possible undelayed release in the Netherlands.

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i would like to write some stuff here based on my experience with some operating systems.

iphone 4 shows us that top end hardware is not that important. the device is still fast and smooth even after 3 years. it still can run games like gta3 and nfs most wanted with good performance. it will kick dual core android devices' *ss. even with n950 sailfish is running very fast and smooth. although with the bugs, the n9 is also pretty fast smooth in my opinion.
so when does those kind of hardware gets important? when you have a device that has a 10 year old cpu, trying run a 3 year old operating system. yes, im talkng about the symbian^3 devices. they are indeed slow. arm11 processor is an outdated processor that can't handle today's needs of processing. e.g internet browsing. this may be another reason for why symbian lost it's user and developer base. anyway cortex a8 processors are pretty much enough to handle most of the needs of today. they are updated and are much more efficient. there are the examples. we are sure that sailfish will be using higher stuff than that so we dont have to worry about processors?

what i want to point out about hardware is that they should give more to gpu power, display techs and optimization. that is what matters the most if you ask me. they should optimize sailfish to a powerful gpu and put a display that has high refresh rates just like on the iphone. the screen on the iphone is a reason that ios' transitions are so solid and smooth. that makes the phone an eyecandy. they should do the same with sailfish.

just an end user's opinions who admire the work of jolla.

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Lets not get ahead of our self. Creoir is 9 people and Nokia has design studios in Helsinki, Espoo, Tampere, Beijing, London and California with who knows how many people. It's a large team with Ahtisaari and Peter Skillman on top.

We don't know just who these people are and in what kind of roles they had on N9 design for example.


Great new videos of the Jolla UI above btw! Looking nice once again.

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Only when they're actually being leveraged/used, otherwise the difference is negligible....

If core specs; GPU/CPU/RAM/Display/SPU etc. are well below top-end, yet it's priced like a top-end device, then I'll really struggle to be serious about it...
BQ/Design won't be enough to make up for that, top-end handsets have improved hugely there in recent mths/yrs, some unique & truly useful hw features* may sway me back, but it depends on what they are, & how bad the core specs are.

*I don't consider qwerty kb, IR etc. to be truly unique/useful, at least not for their 1st device

Didn't he leave or is about to sometime soon?