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neotalk 2010-06-18 12:05
Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 
There may be some hope still......i have been speaking with nokia technical support about this issue. They have stated that flash 10.1 is coming but are very vague about when. The last email(yesterday) i got said the following:

Hi Neo,

This is a follow-up email regarding our call. I want to inform that I called adobe and they said that they don't have official statement when they will release flash player 10.1. The news/release date will be posted on their offical website, WWW.ADOBE.COM. THX

Ren
N900 Tech Support

neotalk 2010-06-18 12:14
Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 
oh and if you want to bombard them about this issue....the uk head office number is 01252 866000

and for tech support about this issue maybe bombard them at this email address: SR.update@nokia.com;

F2thaK 2010-06-18 12:22
Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 
It has to get it, like I said weeks ago...

Flandry 2010-06-18 15:30
Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by impaler (Post 720390)
Andorid is where all the flash devs will end up and I predict an explosion of flash mobile targeted content. The development of the new wave of mobile devices inspired by apples success is the next biggest thing for flash/air. If the success of the mobile version is anywhere near the success of flash games .etc designed for the desktop, you cant deny it will be insane! Pity maemo wont be a part of it developing :(
Well if that's what it takes to sink Android, then so be it. Flash on a phone as the primary vehicle for apps is such a colossally bad idea that i'm glad i won't have to be part of that "insanity" (as you so aptly describe it).

It's funny that the creep of minimum requirements by Adobe isn't recognized for what it is: a clear acknowledgment that Flash is too bloated to be a good idea for small battery-powered consumer devices.

Sure it would be nice if the N900 supported 10.1 so that the occasional website run by myopic designers that requires it can be accessed, but it's not really the loss you're making it out to be.

ysss 2010-06-18 15:40
Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 
Check this out.. it sounds eerily familiar:

http://www.electronista.com/articles...lash.on.webos/

Quote:
Adobe hasn't given any signs that it's close to porting Flash to webOS, Palm said in an AT&T online app development seminar on Thursday. When asked about the multiple delays, a representative said that Palm didn't 'know what the hold-up is' with getting it ready. Adobe itself hasn't commented on the state of the webOS version or of other platforms.

The absence of updates on the status of Flash for webOS casts some doubt on Adobe's plans. Officially, devices from all platforms should have mobile Flash 10.1 in the second half of the year, but so far the strongest sign of development has been a beta for Android 2.2 that, due to its nature, can only run on the Nexus One. Adobe is slated to speak at Verizon's Droid X introduction and may have a finished version of Flash 10.1 ready for the event, but it's unlikely other platforms will get attention.

bimmer6612 2010-06-18 17:44
New Facebook videos requires Flash 10.1
 
Hi,

I uploaded a video clip recently to Facebook and try to view it on N900 . The new video Facebook transcoded requires Flash 10.1 to work properly. It seems that more websites are requiring Flash 10.1 to work properly and Nokia's lack of commitment to support Flash 10.1 will become a major issue for N900 owners. Can the Maemo open source community address this problem without Nokia's support?

-- bimmer6612

sjgadsby 2010-06-18 18:00
Re: New Facebook videos requires Flash 10.1
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bimmer6612 (Post 720775)
Can the Maemo open source community address this problem without Nokia's support?
Short answer: No, the Flash plug-in is closed source.

Long answer: Perhaps. Theoretically, a Flash plug-in from a web browser that uses the same plug-in methodology as the Maemo Browser but on another, similar, Linux-based mobile operating system running on the same processor might be made to work on Maemo in the Maemo Browser. Maybe. However, it would violate the licensing of the plug-in.

sjgadsby 2010-06-18 18:02
Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 
The thread "New Facebook videos requires Flash 10.1" with two posts has been merged into this thread.

johnel 2010-06-18 18:21
Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 
This is why Flash is bad.

It is a proprietory format. The only people who can write a Flash plug-in is Adobe. If they decide your platform is not important enough then you become locked out of from part of the internet.

This goes against the very principle of the open nature of the web.

If the Flash player was open source and allowed anyone to port to a different platform then that's fine.

But it isn't which means Adobe have leverage and hence power.

But like junkies people want thier hit and willing to sacrifice anything to get it.

Very, very sad.

gerbick 2010-06-18 18:26
Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnel (Post 720828)
This is why Flash is bad.

It is a proprietory format. The only people who can write a Flash plug-in is Adobe. If they decide your platform is not important enough then you become locked out of from part of the internet.
If the market was there for it, they'd develop for it. There's not a big enough incentive to make an update. Nokia sure as hell isn't giving any incentive to develop for Maemo, perhaps only for MeeGo.

Flash is only as bad as the lack of the company incentive given for that target. Simply stated, want it, pay for it or grow your market big enough to where you will not be overlooked.

It's like that for any other plugin. Just... most other plugins aren't really used.


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