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Someone made video recording sample.
http://youtu.be/HhzCWzUa0ZE

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There's already MeeRun which I think is getting a Sailfish version. The thread is here, that's something which can be asked.

Sports Tracker had a MeeGo version, would be good to ask - since they are also former Nokia/Maemo folks, if they are looking at SailfishOS for a direction for their software. Probably not now with just about 500 users, but something to look for when/if another OEM decides to run with Sailfish.

I would imagine that part of the "features that didn't make it this version" is that of connectivity to activity/fitness trackers and their associated services. Of note on my end, I wonder if Jolla has spoken to their Finnish partners at Polar? And even if not, there's Rocke****ch which already supports the Pebble (and via my asking in that thread, could actually support several other wearables).

Speaking back to that this is a UX, not a "wish Jolla had this" thread - there has been very little commentary towards the Jolla working with various Bluetooth accessories. I wonder if this was intentional towards this phase of the project? There are a lot of items which any one of us can state are necessary towards a mobile in its first release. Accessory compatibility, and even a sense of greater ease in connecting to them, seems like something Jolla has room to give insight towards their thinking on that.

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Techcrunch just posted a huge article about jolla mentioning hwkb-oh:
http://techcrunch.com/2013/11/30/jolla-first-phone/

“Putting something like a keyboard is expected,” said Jolla co-founder Marc Dillon. “We are working on the developers kit so that anybody can do this… We're working on accessories, and we expect third parties to work on accessories.”

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It would be nice if you could force-disable it for some apps though...

Also I'm curious, if you open a browser via terminal, does it open a new instance? That would solve the browser-tab-reloading issue.

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Android Skype seems to work quite good (half a second latency) but the sound output is always on speakers. Also the proximity sensor does not work with Skype.

While N900 has working jabber videocall, it is not encrypted and does not work through most firewalls.

Jingle relay node on the XMPP server is required for audio to work properly between internal and external networks, and I assume that every internal network would have to have one of these to support the scenario where anyone could call anyone else, from everywhere.
Unfortunately for example OpenFire's jingle plugin did not work at all when I tested it month ago. (OpenFire is used on the server I'm hosting.)

XMPP audio and video generally is a pain in the bum, as it uses streaming port auto negotiation on specific range of ports, and uses only UDP for the streams. Most of the companies block both inbound and outbound traffic, cutting out all XMPP streams in the process.

Skype goes around this problem by using any open ports it can find. In addition to this I suppose it uses, from the streaming view point, more technically inefficient TCP or TCP wrapper for streaming. Inefficiency is neglible when the network speeds are good these days. Again I suppose Google Talk uses the same method for their video call streaming.

Common XMPP audio+video is still pretty much work in progress IMHO. For instance Windows client of Pidgin does not support it yet, and on computers only Jitsi client supports encrypted videocalls (and is a bit flaky especially in its stable 2.2 line). Of Android clients nightly build of Jitsi seems to be the only XMPP client supporting video calls if you exclude Cisco's proprietary solutions for their own gear.

After saying all this I'm still going to test android version of nightly build of Jitsi (see jitzi.org for details) behind the firewall next Monday. It will be interesting, but I really don't expect it to work, as I can't recall it working on "real" android either.

Of course I'm hoping that Jolla will get Skype and Google Talk video calls working too, but especially with Google I expect them to slowly move to their evil native and proprietary Hangouts implementation. And we are not likely to see that on Jolla (nor on any android fork).

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When I did the Android Skype test today, I had Skype multitasked away. When I called from computer to phone, Skype jumped to the fullscreen immediately. So there might be some exceptions to the rule...

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http://mynokiablog.com/2013/11/29/ho...m-jolla-phone/

I didn't see this posted here...

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Normally, Android apps are paused by the system when they're no longer running in foreground. But Android apps can instantiate services, which can run in background. I guess the ACL is actually a quite low-level layer between the Linux/glibc-castrate called Android and the true Linux/glibc on Jolla. But as such, just about everything of Android runs just like on a real Android device.

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I confirm this working! :)

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Yes, apps may spawn background processes.