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conred

2012-08-26 21:27

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

You might want take a look at the Easy Debian for MeeGo Harmattan thread (just skip the Download & Installation section). Even if you don't have a N9 it offers a lot of useful information and tips for N900 users.

rcolistete

2012-08-27 22:07

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Question to Estel and Sulu : does synchroot work for your Debian images ?

I've tested them (squeeze and upgraded to wheezy) on MeeGo Harmattan and Maemo 5. In both cases, after synchroot'ing, the '/etc/group' is incompatible, lacking the 'crontab' line so dpkg/apt-get don't work anymore.

riv64

2012-08-31 22:45

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by conred (Post 1255548)

The wiki has some information about it:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Easy_Debian#Ke...ssues_and_tips

Conred
I copied xkb from maemo to debian but still I have this: ^ [[A ^ [[B ^ [[C ^ [[D in chroot terminal when I use arrow keys.

gm90_blackmamba

2012-10-25 19:15

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

hi guys, i've news about chromium, in fact browsing italian repository i've found new version (22.0.....), but there isn't armel version :( so i ask you to look in yours if any.

p.s. last updated is today (armhf version), probably tomorrow is a good day for my version :)

p.p.s. esel with you trick i had no more reboot, thank you so much

Estel

2012-10-25 20:10

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Some time ago, I faced serious corruption of my /home/ partition. As I haven't had (yet) /home/user/ separated between Easy Debian and Maemo, it included loosing Ed configuration.

I've managed to restore msot of it (through backups, or, in some rare cases, by doing it again, from scratch), but, I can't seem to find a way of restoring "ctrl + ." (control + dot) shortcut for moving currently active window (very useful for ones, that are too big to fit in 800x480 screen).

I know that I - once - knew how to modify it, but for a life of me, I can't remember, where it was configured (no signs in .xbindkeysrc config file). any ideas?

/Estel

vi_	2012-10-26 08:46

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

According to this:

http://www.memetic.org/raspbian-benc...rmel-vs-armhf/

Armhf could potentially provide a real kick in speed for some applications. Are there any instructions anywhere as to how to create a new chroot image, specifically one using hardfp?

Estel

2012-10-26 19:26

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

sulu tried that, some time ago - it's buried "somewhere" in this thread.

/Estel

// Edit

Look on pages around this post:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...fp#post1155415

BTW, my question about ctrl + dot for moving window still apply... Help, please? It seems silly, to reinstall my own squeeze image from scratch, then, update it all the way to wheezy, just to get shortcut for moving window back...

branja

2012-10-28 04:06

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

What is the default password (ex. when I try to install something via synaptic)?

Tnx in advance

Hurrian

2012-10-28 06:03

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by vi_ (Post 1285731)

Armhf could potentially provide a real kick in speed for some applications. Are there any instructions anywhere as to how to create a new chroot image, specifically one using hardfp?

Here you go.
armhf binaries should work - they work for ArchARM after all.

On a side note, these binaries are compiled to use Thumb and vfpv3-d16.

seanmcken

2012-10-30 09:28

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

plzzzzz explain how to install avidemux????????

Estel

2012-10-30 23:26

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

apt-get install avidemux, usually.

gm90_blackmamba

2012-10-31 14:15

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

hi estel, sulu, i've tried yours wheezy image but vlc doesn't work. it says "audio output failed".how can I fix it? thanks for reply

vi_	2012-11-02 08:59

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by gm90_blackmamba (Post 1288140)

hi estel, sulu, i've tried yours wheezy image but vlc doesn't work. it says "audio output failed".how can I fix it? thanks for reply

There is ABSOLUTELY no point in trying to run vlc from easy debian. VLC is using software decoding and the n900 just does not have the grunt.

vi_	2012-11-02 09:00

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

I tried to upgrade my image to armhf. I changed the architecture and the mirror to SID. Epic fail. I broke everything.

n900_

2012-11-02 09:54

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

vi_: armhf is working fine, when you create new chroot by debootstrap

gm90_blackmamba

2012-11-02 10:13

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by vi_ (Post 1288884)

There is ABSOLUTELY no point in trying to run vlc from easy debian. VLC is using software decoding and the n900 just does not have the grunt.

vi_ i don't understand the reply vey well, but in the previous version worked fine and i would like to know how to make it work.

vi_	2012-11-02 22:55

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by n900_ (Post 1288904)

vi_: armhf is working fine, when you create new chroot by debootstrap

...

I do not even know wtf a debootstrap is.

gm90_blackmamba

2012-11-02 23:20

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

well i solved with vlc now it works vell.
to everyone that have no sound or error output and similar try this:

modify /etc/asound.conf

Code:

   

 pcm.!default {

            type hw

            card 0

    }



    ctl.!default {

            type hw

            card 0

    }

and then killall pulseaudio.

Estel

2012-11-03 06:25

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Thanks, haven't replied, as I had no idea what is wrong :)

gm90_blackmamba

2012-11-04 20:51

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

new version of Chromium and same sag fault for me..sameone has just tried it?

DaftPunker

2012-11-04 21:04

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by n900_ (Post 1248697)

Easy debian is much faster on seperate emmc partition.
I copied estel image to new created ext3 partition on emmc by dd.tool and changed chroot config to reading from mmcblk0p4
Libreoffice starting in 17-18seconds (cold start, swap restarted) and under 10seconds, when I run it before.

PS: Only cssu thumb, 500-900MHz clock and 1GB swap on microsd - no speedpatch, swappolube and other stuff like that
.
Next I converted it to ext4 partition and I noticed little performance boost - now libreoffice writter start in 16-17s after restarting swap (cold start) and 7-8s "hot" start

VIDEO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTiccuzlnxM

Wow! Amazing performance! I've just followed your steps to put ED on a dedicated ext4 partition as explained here and I can really feel a very good improvement while interacting with heavy software like Libre Office, Iceweasel and Inkscape. The UI, specifically, is way more responsive now.

But the loading times that I'm getting are nowhere near what you got (33-36 seconds to perform a cold load on LibreOffice Writer with 2GB of swap on SD restarted a few seconds before doing the test). I'm using Kernel-Power, BatteryPatch (max 805Mhz, left keyboard slide open and LCD turned on) and SpeedPatch. Surprisingly (at least for me) enabling Swappolube with proposed settings increased the loading time of the same test to 52-57 seconds!

I believe that CSSU-thumb should make a good difference due to lower memory usage by Fremantle apps, but I'm asking myselft if such huge difference couldn't be also because I'm using armel repositories while you may have tested with armhf ones? Or maybe some LibreOffice-specific configuration file that I missed?

n900_, which one of the Estel's image did you use in this test? I'm currently using the ED image debian-m5-sulu.img.ext2 (dist-upgraded to wheezy) on separated ext4 partition on eMMC.

I'm very excited to achieve similiar performance results as you demonstrated in the two videos by following your steps.

DaftPunker

2012-11-04 21:09

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by gm90_blackmamba (Post 1290107)

new version of Chromium and same sag fault for me..sameone has just tried it?

Using the latest chromium-browser from wheezy armel official repository here and it only prints "Segmentation Fault" and quits. Latest Iceweasel from same repository, although, is working very nicely here.

n900_

2012-11-04 21:38

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaftPunker (Post 1290118)

I'm using estel squeeze image. In this video I had ideal profile with 500-900MHz clock. Now I'm using dsp profile with 250-900 (better battery life). Libreoffice starting in 16-17seconds (cold start).
No swappolube and speed/battery patches. I had speedpatch and batterypatch and I think overall speed was slower than stock maemo @ 600MHz.

Edit: I will test armhf (it's working when you create new chroot by debootstrap and metasploit starting in almost same time as native compiled newest ruby - much much faster than metasploit on ruby from maemo repo), but I don't have time to build armhf image now, so I'm using great estel squeeze armel image.

jellyroll

2012-11-04 21:46

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Does totem movie player works?

DaftPunker

2012-11-04 22:07

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by n900_ (Post 1290139)

I should do some more tests without speedpatch and batterypatch installed and post the results. Searching on Qole's page, I found this image: debian-m5-estel.img.ext3.lzma. Is this the one that you used in the test? Have you upgraded it to wheezy at the time you did the this test?

Quote:

Originally Posted by jellyroll (Post 1290146)

Does totem movie player works?

I think so: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...postcount=2215.

n900_

2012-11-04 22:23

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

DaftPunker Yes, That's it.
Not upgraded - only direct copied from image to ext4 partition by cp -a. (dd tool change filesystem to image's filesystem)

I get some sleep now. It's too late.

Fatalist

2012-12-01 14:51

Re: Easy Debian + Ubuntu = Menu Mess

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominic71 (Post 1018312)

Hi everybody, I'm having some troubles and didn't find the answer, so far. I usually work with Easy Debian, but yesterday wanted to try Ubuntu. After installing I successfully opened it, but when I clicked on the menu button, many applications that I usually have with Easy Debian, were missing from drop-down menus.

I uninstalled Ubuntu and rebooted: but when I opened Easy Debian, the menu now had the same missing applications on the menu. It's not that the programs have been deleted: if I activate - for example 'Evince' - from command line or control panel, the application opens properly: it simply doesn't appear on the menu.

I tried many times to completely uninstall Debian LXDE from the app manager, and to download anew the 2 gb image: but no matter what i do, the Easy Debian menu doesn't return to its original default configuration.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Domenico

Hello, I'm having this exact problem after installing Easy Ubuntu yesterday.

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=66531

I didn't found the file ubuntu-m5-v1.2.img.ext2.lzma so I downloaded and uncompressed ubuntu-m5-v1.img.ext2.lzma from Qole's site and installed ubuntu-n900.deb.

Ubuntu worked ok but it changed the application menus in Easy Debian, missing Gimp and UFRaw from the Graphics menu, Iceweasel has been replaced with Firefox, etc etc.

I uninstalled Ubuntu and deleted the ubuntu img file and rebooted but the problem remains. Uninstalled Easy Debian and Easy Chroot too, and reinstalled them with no success. Copy the Debian image again to the N900 didn't worked too.

Aynone knows please how to restore Easy Debian to its default configuration?

Also can the .debian directory be deleted completely, or is dangerous?

solbrit

2012-12-11 21:30

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

I know this has been asked before but just to make sure, still no ideas as to how to install Skype in Easy Debian? The only flaw on the N900, the abscence of Skype sms, and what a big flaw it is... :(

sulu	2012-12-11 21:54

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by solbrit (Post 1303606)

Theoretically there is a way:
Install qemu in ED, install your favourite x86 Linux (or even Windows) in qemu and install Skype on top of the emulated OS.

But practically:
No, there's no chance unless MS releases the source code of skype and gives us the chance to compile it natively on armel.
The qemu variant I just mentioned would be so incredibly slow that you could as well travel around the world to meet the one you wanted to skype with in person.

Instead you could try if the Android version works in Nitdroid (assuming that still exists - I've not been around here for quite a while).

sulu	2012-12-11 22:03

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Sorry for bringing up old posts, I have to catch up on some things.

Quote:

Originally Posted by n900_ (Post 1288904)

vi_: armhf is working fine, when you create new chroot by debootstrap

I've tried that about half a year ago but it wasn't stable at all. ED started but loading random applications caused my N900 to reboot.

So if you got more promising results than I did would you mind sharing your image? If it actually works we might expect gains in performance up to 20% over armel for some applications (although to be realistic we wouldn't see any change at all in most applications).

sulu	2012-12-14 22:47

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

1 Attachment(s)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1254678)

sulu, I've noticed that new version of pulseaudio packages got released. Of course, i haven't updated them - due to lack of special tweaks, that we have in Your version.

Sorry for not having answered for so long. I just created new patched pulseaudio packages [1]. In the archive (and attached to this post) you'll also find a how-to which describes (hopefully) very detailed how to patch your own packages. Please let me know if something is not clear in this how-to!
If my absence has shown one thing then it's that we shouldn't have a situation where a certain step in development is a one-man-show. If one of us gets run over by a bus somebody else should be able to take over. Hence the idea for the detailed how-to.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1254678)

No new on Chromium bug, which is kinda driving me mad, due to Iceweasel being totally useless (sloooooooow). Maybe we should seek assistance with Chromium developers (i.e. bug report)?

Chromium still crashes on armel. I'm planning to file a bug report to the Debian maintainers (hopefully before X-mas). But the fact that chromium in Wheezy exists at all in its current state doesn't make me very optimistic.
As an alternative you might want to try midori or xxxterm (vi users will love it while others might still find it ok).

[1] http://netload.in/dateiF534Jt1vJG/pu...1.tar.lzma.htm

sulu	2012-12-17 22:38

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

FYI:
I just filed a bug report to the Debian maintainers concerning the chromium bug:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=696196

jellyroll

2013-01-12 12:38

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by n900_ (Post 1248793)

Other programs also starting faster.
But on the video I ran libreoffice before so n900 loaded it from ram - with reseted swap libreoffice starting in ~17seconds.

I will make video with other programs after reseted swap

Quick guide: (it's my way to do it, you can do it by several other ways)
1) Install bootmenu on n900 - now you can access all emmc 32GB flash (not only 27GB vfat partition)
2) Reboot n900 with open keyboard and choose usb connection
3) Resize 27GB fat partition and create new partition >3.2GB
4) Copy content of image to partition by dd tool (you can do it on n900 or PC)
by example:
5) Change chroot config by editing /home/user/.chroot - remove # from #IMGFILE=/dev/mmcblk0p4
6) It's working
7) You can convert ext3 partition to ext4 by terminal (in this case you must have power kernel, but I think everyone have it)
Type in xterminal on n900

I could not get the device in USB storage by using bootmenu or bootmenu-n900 the phone turned off within 10 sec. I had to use the backupmenu USB storeage option instead.

Thanx.

marmistrz

2013-02-01 08:44

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

I'd like to use Squeeze from the start. There are a lot of images at qole.org/files. Which one should I use? I tried this: http://qole.org/files/debian-squeeze-m5-img.bz2 but LXDE doesn't work then (Xephyr cannot open host window or so)

Thanks

sulu	2013-02-01 09:28

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

The most sophisticated Squeeze image should be the one by Estel [1], however the one you selected should work with LXDE as well.
A precise error output would be helpful.

[1] http://qole.org/files/debian-m5-estel.img.ext3.lzma

marmistrz

2013-02-01 11:35

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Using the old image:

Code:

No window found with the name N/A Easy Debian

Starting Debian echo "chroot is now open!"

Chroot dir specified: /.debian

No image file or partition specified.

ls: /media/mmc1/debian*.img*: No such file or directory

/.debian has a qmount already!

/home/user/MyDocs/debian-squeeze-m5.img.ext2 already mounted on /.debian...

Everything set up, running chroot...

chroot is now open!

Starting Debian /usr/bin/Xephyr :1 -screen 800x480 -br -ac

Chroot dir specified: /.debian

No image file or partition specified.

ls: /media/mmc1/debian*.img*: No such file or directory

/.debian has a qmount already!

/home/user/MyDocs/debian-squeeze-m5.img.ext2 already mounted on /.debian...

Everything set up, running chroot...

stdin: is not a tty



Xephyr cannot open host display. Is DISPLAY set?

X Error of failed request:  BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)

  Major opcode of failed request:  20 (X_GetProperty)

  Resource id in failed request:  0x2c009f4

  Serial number of failed request:  258

  Current serial number in output stream:  258

sulu	2013-02-01 11:49

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

It seems like the image isn't found. Can you please post the full path of your image file and the contents of?:
/home/user/.chroot

marmistrz

2013-02-01 11:55

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by sulu (Post 1319802)

It seems like the image isn't found. Can you please post the full path of your image file and the contents of?:
/home/user/.chroot

It's strange, as Estel's image run's alright. I think I'll stay with it.
Is there any way reduce the image size?

sulu	2013-02-01 12:22

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

You can create a new empty image of a smaller size (that still fits all the contents of the current one), format it with some file system (ext2 or ext3; ext4 if you use kernel power) and copy* all the contents from the old to the new image.

*) make sure to keep all the permissions and symlinks, so use rsync with the option -a or some other tool that allows to keep them.

pinochio

2013-02-10 16:15

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Does anyone here know how to install huawei modem e173u-2 with Aero2 card in the N900?
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=89096
Can only installation Easy Debian to help solve this problem?

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