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xes 2012-03-16 17:27

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
Someone has stolen it.... :eek: i suppose someone with a w7 phone... :D

Minhaz 2012-03-16 18:19

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pali (Post 983578)
Kernel-power version v49 is now in Extras-Testing!

I uploaded kernel-power v50 to Garage Autobuilder for compiling Extras-Devel version. Compilation was successfull, deb packages are here:
https://garage.maemo.org/builder/fre...wer50/results/
But Audobuilder & Extras-Devel sucks and packages was not uploaded to Extras-Devel... So I cannot do anything for pushing it :-(

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hey Pali,I cant find the kernel-power_2.6.28-10power50.deb package in the garage autobuilder...
any clue?

SeT 2012-03-16 18:52

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 1180312)

What that there is no kernel-power_2.6.28-10power50_armel.deb, is this normal?

pawelstryju 2012-03-18 08:14

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
someone how already downloaded kernel-power_2.6.28-10power50_armel.deb please upload it somewhere. :) ...or pali upload it where it should be.

Mohammed Muid 2012-03-18 14:39

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
i have flashed both optfs and rootfs. now i will install the kernel power. do u suggest me to directly download and install the kernel power 50 or should i install kp49 and wait for 50 to come in the repos? is there any application that does not support kp50? isit stable enough? and plz anyone upload the links to kp50. as far as i understand by reading the previous pages someone mentioned that there are two versions of kp50. one by pali and one by freemangordon. which one is stable?

Mr. Incredible 2012-03-18 14:43

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
kernel-power_2.6.28-10power50_armel.deb is yet still missing. please reupload kernel-power_2.6.28-10power50_armel.deb.

Edit:
Is this how to install power50 then?

Quote:

Copy files to your N900
root
cd home/user/MyDocs
dpkg -i kernel-power_2.6.28-10power50_armel.deb
dpkg -i kernel-power-bootimg_2.6.28-10power50_armel.deb (only neccessary for multiboot)
dpkg -i kernel-power-flasher_2.6.28-10power50_armel.deb
dpkg -i kernel-power-modules_2.6.28-10power50_armel.deb

Mohammed Muid 2012-03-18 15:31

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
so should i install kp50or wait till it hit the repos? is it perfectly stable?

pawelstryju 2012-03-18 15:43

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mohammed Muid (Post 1181077)
so should i install kp50or wait till it hit the repos? is it perfectly stable?

if it's gonna be in repos, it will be the same as here (version 50 is version 50). Whole kernel-power is let's say for "power users" so not everything always work, but kp50 contains important fixes for me.

ed_boner 2012-03-18 16:24

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
is kp50 stable now?..better even than 49?..i see the first post but..how to instal it?tks

pali 2012-03-18 16:28

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
I uploaded v50 to autobuilder again, but same problem... :-(

@freemangordon, can you build final v50 in scratchbox (madde builds reported some problems...)? I will put it on atrey as temporary solution.

freemangordon 2012-03-18 16:41

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pali (Post 1181102)
I uploaded v50 to autobuilder again, but same problem... :-(

@freemangordon, can you build final v50 in scratchbox (madde builds reported some problems...)? I will put it on atrey as temporary solution.

Going to build it, hopefully will be available in 30 minutes.

EDIT:
In the meanwhile I will try to upload KP50 to autobuilder too.

freemangordon 2012-03-18 17:19

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 1181108)
Going to build it, hopefully will be available in 30 minutes.

EDIT:
In the meanwhile I will try to upload KP50 to autobuilder too.

KP50 .debs here, not tested though. No source packages as I have a limit of 50 MB for a single file.

Still uploading to autobuilder, so nothing new on that side.

Skaven2k2 2012-03-18 17:50

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
Hello,

kernel-power_2.6.28-10power50 boots fine & seems to work good :)

ed_boner 2012-03-18 17:58

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
:(..dont know how to install

freemangordon 2012-03-18 18:01

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
Tried to upload 4 times to autobuilder, every time the result is "File upload error. (tar file) Please try to upload your packages again!" :(

Will try again later.

pali 2012-03-18 18:04

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 1181132)
Tried to upload 4 times to autobuilder, every time the result is "File upload error. (tar file) Please try to upload your packages again!" :(

Will try again later.

I uploaded it again.

freemangordon 2012-03-18 18:09

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pali (Post 1181134)
I uploaded it again.

Well, seems like autobuilder does not like you or your source tarballs :) that is why I want to try to upload a source package prepared in sb, not in madde. But it seems we are doing a parallel upload and I am the loser.

pali 2012-03-18 18:11

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 1181137)
Well, seems like autobuilder does not like you or your source tarballs :) that is why I want to try to upload a source package prepared in sb, not in madde. But it seems we are doing a parallel upload and I am the loser.

No, tarball is from maemo SDK (of original kernel package).
And I think we do not doing parallel upload. I did not uploaded when you tried...

freemangordon 2012-03-18 18:18

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pali (Post 1181138)
No, tarball is from maemo SDK (of original kernel package).
And I think we do not doing parallel upload. I did not uploaded when you tried...

.diff.gz and .dsc files are produced in your madde environment. BTW your .dsc and mine differ, that is why I want to try to upload my source packages. Please, don't try anymore once current build completes and before I try too :)

pali 2012-03-18 18:23

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 1181139)
.diff.gz and .dsc files are produced in your madde environment. BTW your .dsc and mine differ, that is why I want to try to upload my source packages. Please, don't try anymore once current build completes and before I try too :)

No, I'm not using madde for generating DSC files. I'm using up-to-date dpkg-buildpackage from Ubuntu...

I will not try to upload source again.

Mr. Incredible 2012-03-18 18:36

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
kp50 is runnig fine

Edit:
I love it how you keep our N900's still up to date and improve them.

Edit2:
Now I have problems. My N900 shutted down suddenly and won't boot anymore. It's stuck at the "NOKIA" bootscreen and the indicator LED stays white. I've got backupmenu installed but it won't show then I start the N900 with open keyboard. I left it several minutes without battery, no changes.

Edit3:
I flashed fiasco image. Now it's booting again (and I have to install all again and set it up)

pali 2012-03-18 19:13

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
Bingo, packages are in repository: http://repository.maemo.org/extras-d.../kernel-power/

But again problem with maemo.org/package interface...

zzzchainzzz 2012-03-18 19:49

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
is this the end of kernel power 49 era?

ed_boner 2012-03-18 20:15

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pali (Post 1180292)

didnt find the changelog..but the update appeared in FAM and i installed it..so far everything is ok...reboot problem seems to be gone for good..just dont know what other changes are made..

pali 2012-03-18 20:30

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ed_boner (Post 1181177)
didnt find the changelog..but the update appeared in FAM and i installed it..so far everything is ok...reboot problem seems to be gone for good..just dont know what other changes are made..

changelog is in first post

ed_boner 2012-03-18 21:05

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
tks pali..awsome job guys!!

SeT 2012-03-18 21:11

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
Upgrading 49 to 50 from debs.
dpkg -i kernel-power_2.6.28-10power50_armel.deb kernel-power-modules_2.6.28-10power50_armel.deb kernel-power-flasher_2.6.28-10power50_armel.deb

Estel 2012-03-18 21:28

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pali (Post 1181158)
Bingo, packages are in repository: http://repository.maemo.org/extras-d.../kernel-power/

But again problem with maemo.org/package interface...

It's one of the rare situations, where You want to cheer'n'smile and cry in despair, at the same moment.

Anyway, huge thanks for pushing it into repos!

xes 2012-03-18 21:37

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
kernel-power...... The most difficult thing is put in the repo.
Fixing is the easy part of the job! ;)

Many thanks to all the night developers making this device everyday a better and greater... MONSTER:D!!!

so... Installed and perfectly working!

@freemangordon
The only doubt (in my opinion) is about the sr voltage calculation for higher dsp frequencies.
Attached you can find my working profile.
Until now i don't have any crash but, as you can see, the difference between the voltages for 805,850,900 is very very little.
If i move the dsp 600 mhz frequency to the 850mhz core frequency the device hangs at first video playback.

What do you think about?

Here my profile:
kernel-config show

current kernel configuration:
current frequency: 900
supported frequencies: 125 250 500 550 600 720 805 850 900 950 1000 1100 1150
min. frequency: 125
max. frequency: 900
avoid frequencies:
active frequencies: 125:22,90 250:25,180 500:37,360 550:39,400 600:42,430 720:49,520 805:52,520 850:54,560 900:55,600 950:60,600 1000:60,600 1100:72,600 1150:72,600
SmartReflex VDD1=1, VDD2=1
governor ondemand: ignore nice load= 0, up threshold= 95, sampling rate= 300000, powersave bias= 0

Estel 2012-03-18 22:31

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
The thing is, that, if You use profile You've provided, You can "trash" voltage settings provided in "active frequencies", as SR is calculating and overriding them.

To be absolutely sure that it's SR fault, *disable* both SR (or, at least, VDD1), and check if Your device is absolutely stable with Your profile. If yes, enable SR again, and check SR calculated voltage for 850 and 900, and put result here. We'll be able to see, how much of a difference is in calculated values, as compared to Your "default" profile values.

/Estel

Estel 2012-03-19 00:14

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
Installed kp50 from repos, haven't noticed any problems so far. Sorry for lame question, but could someone explain proper way, to permanently disable indicator led via sysfs entry?

Testing "ancient" reboot issue, will update this post in few minutes.

/Estel

// Edit

It seems that reboot bug is still here. I must admit, that "it feels" much less frequent, yet, it still exist, showing exactly same symptoms as before. So,

Quote:

Originally Posted by first post

Changelog:

kernel-power (1:2.6.28-10power50) fremantle; urgency=low
.
* Fixed reboot problem

...isn't entirely true. Thanks for fighting with that BugKing, anyway!

BTW, it's quite funny, as it seems that it happens *much* more frequent, when device is rebooted in horizontal position (flat on table, for example). This, summed up with other people's reports of rebooting with success only, when holding device @ correct angle, makes me really wonder - WTF.
---

As for other things, everything is ok. No increased power usage (checked current in many situations, also performed powertop test) or other popular myths that are yet to come here, in this thread ;) Awesome work, freemangordon and Pali!

xes 2012-03-19 00:20

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1181208)
The thing is, that, if You use profile You've provided, You can "trash" voltage settings provided in "active frequencies", as SR is calculating and overriding them.

To be absolutely sure that it's SR fault, *disable* both SR (or, at least, VDD1), and check if Your device is absolutely stable with Your profile. If yes, enable SR again, and check SR calculated voltage for 850 and 900, and put result here. We'll be able to see, how much of a difference is in calculated values, as compared to Your "default" profile values.

/Estel

Sorry, my post was incomplete.
This is the profile obtained running "kernel config show"
So the voltages are the ones calculated by sr.
The default profile file (/etc/default/kernel-power) has all the voltages at 60.

ed_boner 2012-03-19 00:46

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
i am using dsp profile..is it ok?

m4r0v3r 2012-03-19 00:59

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
i have major problems with bq27 module, since i could leave my device on idle and its fine, but the minute it does anything strenous like watch a video or play an emulator the module calculates wrong and decides am running very low on battery, but if i stop the bme, it works fine and lasts all day again,am using KP49 the only thing ive ever really had problems with is the battery issue.

Estel 2012-03-19 01:39

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xes (Post 1181235)
Sorry, my post was incomplete.
This is the profile obtained running "kernel config show"
So the voltages are the ones calculated by sr.
The default profile file (/etc/default/kernel-power) has all the voltages at 60.

No, no, you misunderstood what I mean. 'kernel-config show' *doesn't* show SR calculated voltages - it show ones, that You've put there, into config file (currently used). Real voltages are totally different, if You're using SR.

So, please consider doing tests I've written before. As for how to check "real" actual voltages (with SR enabled), freemangordon explained this in this thread - sorry, don't remember it from top of my head.

/Estel

Mohammed Muid 2012-03-19 01:51

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
i wanna have bleeding edge wifi drivers. how to make them work. i have downloaded the older version. 142 mbish file. bt i read that it is not compatible with kp50. how to make it work?

freemangordon 2012-03-19 06:18

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xes (Post 1181235)
Sorry, my post was incomplete.
This is the profile obtained running "kernel config show"
So the voltages are the ones calculated by sr.
The default profile file (/etc/default/kernel-power) has all the voltages at 60.

Correct, kernel-config shows SR calculated voltages (+2)

The reason why your DSP voltages are too low and your DSP is unstable 850@600 with SR enabled is that your SR calibrations are for "good", i.e. low voltage MPU. The thing is that if SR voltages are calculated in such a way that DSP to be stable @ higher frequencies, your MPU will run at voltages which are higher than optimal and your battery drain will increase. So the priority is given to battery savings. Also seems there is no reliable way to predict DSP behavior re voltage when DSP is OC with relation to MPU calibrations.

On the other hand there is an entry in /sys/power - dsp_voltage_boost, which you can use to tweak SR voltage when DSP is active. The default is 125, max is 250, you can play with it a bit if you wish to move DSP@600 to lower MPU frequency. This boost is applied ONLY when DSP is active, so no increased battery drain under normal usage

@Estel - kernel-config show shows SR calculated voltages when SR is enabled and the particular frequency has been active at least once.


@all - I will appreciate if someone updates wiki entry re OC in the light of the latest kernels (49 and 50)

EDIT:
@xes - also you may search this thread for the formula of how exactly dsp_voltage_boost is used to calculate the voltage, it explains why 850 and 900 have so close voltages

freemangordon 2012-03-19 06:31

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
@Estel: the "reboot bug" you get hit from is not the same that is fixed in KP50.

Mohammed Muid 2012-03-19 07:16

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
i asked about the bleeding edge drivers for kp50. which one to download?

ibrakalifa 2012-03-19 07:36

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Testing
 
wow, is pentesting supported in this new kp?, thx so muuuuuch, :D


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