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ggabriel 2013-06-03 12:28

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Thanks for clarifying, Kangal. I suppose ARM is very different to what I know from x86, where shutting cores down is almost an impossibility (or at least not implemented in major OS's).

mikecomputing 2013-06-03 16:40

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ggabriel (Post 1349200)
Thanks for clarifying, Kangal. I suppose ARM is very different to what I know from x86, where shutting cores down is almost an impossibility (or at least not implemented in major OS's).

Thats why I hope Jolla device is not some crappy IntelHW.

mikecomputing 2013-06-06 17:05

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Wall Street Journal:

Finland’s Jolla Phone Aims to Compete With Apple, Samsung

http://live.wsj.com/video/finlands-j...5-14C77816AAA9

Dave999 2013-06-06 17:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1350037)
Wall Street Journal:

Finland’s Jolla Phone Aims to Compete With Apple, Samsung

http://live.wsj.com/video/finlands-j...5-14C77816AAA9

They might be able to do that in Finland but not in the rest of the world.

danramos 2013-06-07 10:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1350039)
They might be able to do that in Finland but not in the rest of the world.

I'm not even sure about that.

Dave999 2013-06-07 11:28

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1350209)
I'm not even sure about that.

Which part?

ggabriel 2013-06-07 13:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1350219)
Which part?

lol - I had exactly the same [trolling] thought.

mikecomputing 2013-06-07 15:38

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1350209)
I'm not even sure about that.

Jolla will sell more phones than Elop's Lumia800 :D

juiceme 2013-06-07 18:14

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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1350293)
Jolla will sell more phones than Elop's Lumia800 :D

You don't need to be a record breaker for that! :D

m4r0v3r 2013-06-07 21:58

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
I think if they can snap up 4-5% of the market there doing amazingly well.

Artyom 2013-06-07 23:28

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which is impossible without a raging and rapid marketting.

gerbick 2013-06-08 02:50

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Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 1350396)
I think if they can snap up 4-5% of the market there doing amazingly well.

Of what market? And from whom?

danramos 2013-06-08 07:33

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1350219)
Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1350209)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1350039)
They might be able to do that in Finland but not in the rest of the world.

I'm not even sure about that.

Which part?

To elaborate: I'm not even sure they could pull it off in Finland.

don_falcone 2013-06-08 08:41

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...reminds me a bit of Commodore days; their strange (non-) communication/secrecy vs. some stupid/non-existant marketing.

mikecomputing 2013-06-08 10:11

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1350451)
To elaborate: I'm not even sure they could pull it off in Finland.

For once I agree :(

I heard WP has 50% of the market in finland.

What Jolla could had hope is those people who was angry at Nokia and still has Symbian phones. But those people has probadly give up this days and gone to MicroNokia or Samsung.

So they'r back on route 1. Being as small player as Maemo was at Nokia with N900.

But can they survive on that? Can they continue development with next gen device with the money they get on first phone?

Thats way more important question for me. Because if they can they may get bigger later.

There is people who are sick of Android dominance. And as already stated europe needs a phone company and also more "dotnet companys". The weeks news about USA:s monitoring of people make me more sure about that....

Dave999 2013-07-16 17:30

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Woho I finally find this Awesome thread. I thought it was deleted.

We are all good!

danramos 2013-07-17 11:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1359441)
Woho I finally find this Awesome thread. I thought it was deleted.

We are all good!

What?! Why did you wake me up??

jalyst 2013-07-17 12:35

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For no particular reason, that's all he's good for, unfortunately...
But, why do you care? Aren't you the guy that gave up on the promise of desktop Linux/FOSS making the transition to embedded/mobile years go?
Aren't you the guy who thinks Android only is more than good enough?

Dave999 2013-07-17 14:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1359589)
For no particular reason, that's all he's good for, unfortunately...
But, why do you care? Aren't you the guy that gave up on the promise of desktop Linux/FOSS making the transition to embedded/mobile years go?
Aren't you the guy who thinks Android only is more than good enough?

welcome Jalyst, why are you following me everywhere? and stop trolling and go and make a list of some sort. that's all you are good for, unfortunately...

jalyst 2013-07-17 14:39

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Me? I'm not following you everywhere, just pointing out the obvious, a thread becomes live, it looks interesting initially, only to find that [once again] it's some vacuous post of yours.
It kills interesting dialogue, that's just the reality that's being pointed out, I'm not the only one to raise it, it's nothing personal, but it is something you have to be made aware of.

I'd thank you, but there's no thanks in this sub-forum... ;-) N.B. you are great comic relief sometimes, but that's very rarely, content is more interesting/relevant/respectful.

don_falcone 2013-07-17 14:41

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1359589)
For no particular reason, that's all he's good for, unfortunately...
But, why do you care? Aren't you the guy that gave up on the promise of desktop Linux/FOSS making the transition to embedded/mobile years go?
Aren't you the guy who thinks Android only is more than good enough?

Maybe, out of not fulfilled expectations from Nokia. But if he is, then we are at least two now.

jalyst 2013-07-17 14:43

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Well, we could see that one coming a mile away, but each to his own, that's totally cool :)

Dave999 2013-07-17 14:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1359606)
Me? I'm not following you everywhere, just pointing out the obvious, a thread becomes live, it looks interesting initially, only to find that [once again] it's some vacuous post of yours.
It kills interesting dialogue, that's just the reality that's being pointed out, I'm not the only one to raise it, it's nothing personal, but it is something you have to be made aware of.

Why don't you add me to ignore list?

jalyst 2013-07-17 14:50

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see my updated earlier post....

Dave999 2013-07-17 14:55

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Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1359606)
[Some useless random text removed]

I'd thank you, but there's no thanks in this sub-forum... ;-) N.B. you are great comic relief sometimes, but that's very rarely, content is more interesting/relevant/respectful.

http://realsuperlog.com/wp-content/u.../a-chance.jpeg

jalyst 2013-07-17 15:06

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And... that's why I kinda like you, sometimes ;)

daperl 2013-07-17 17:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1359606)
just pointing out the obvious, a thread becomes live, it looks interesting initially, only to find that [once again] it's some vacuous post of yours.
It kills interesting dialogue

This was a good day:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90390

But now we wait for the Apocalypse.

Dave999 2013-07-17 17:10

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Looking for any solid info about how jolla planning to keep the "version" of the OS. Will their OS be like Apples and always be available for new/old phones or will they create a new version for new devices and leave the old devices to day? After all, they coming from Nokia and old habits die hard. But now they are this new entity and maybe they have changed their minds. :confused:

Dave999 2013-07-18 04:39

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
... Seems that jolla moving in their own direction and building a wall around Sailfish.

Dave999 2013-07-18 13:46

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What would be really cool and awesome idea was if someone could do a documentary of the competing underdog OSes. The viewer could watch the progress and see how hard the crows are working. Interviews, attend some arranged meetings, follow some worker a whole day during release day, stuff like that.

Jolla vs Tizen vs Ubuntu. (firefox doesn't fit in the idea yet).

The series would be called Game of... OS.

If the documentary won't be created it's a solid marketing strategy to create your own video story. Hope jolla, Ubuntu or Tizen can do that.

jalyst 2013-07-18 15:47

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
I'd watch that, but I'd prefer that it by done by a very good doco maker, not some hack.

danramos 2013-07-19 10:47

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1359589)
For no particular reason, that's all he's good for, unfortunately...
But, why do you care? Aren't you the guy that gave up on the promise of desktop Linux/FOSS making the transition to embedded/mobile years go?
Aren't you the guy who thinks Android only is more than good enough?

No, I'm pretty sure I made it clear that I gave up on Maemo and MeeGo getting any kind of traction--I'm also pretty sure I'm right about those. Also--isn't Android running Linux? Also--isn't Ubuntu getting some pretty good traction with mobile? Maybe you weren't talking to me. My mistake. Carry on! I didn't mean to interrupt your ambiguous but odd conversation.

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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1359836)
What would be really cool and awesome idea was if someone could do a documentary of the competing underdog OSes. The viewer could watch the progress and see how hard the crows are working. Interviews, attend some arranged meetings, follow some worker a whole day during release day, stuff like that.

Jolla vs Tizen vs Ubuntu. (firefox doesn't fit in the idea yet).

The series would be called Game of... OS.

If the documentary won't be created it's a solid marketing strategy to create your own video story. Hope jolla, Ubuntu or Tizen can do that.

Why are you leaving out Haiku and ReactOS?

jalyst 2013-07-19 12:09

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
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Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1360074)
No, I'm pretty sure I made it clear that I gave up on Maemo and MeeGo getting any kind of traction--I'm also pretty sure I'm right about those.

So you do still hope for some traction for their descendants... Nemo/Sailfish.
Or you continue to maintain the "See, I told you so!" attitude that their failure is a given?

Quote:

Also--isn't Ubuntu getting some pretty good traction with mobile?
Eh? Since when?

Quote:

Maybe you weren't talking to me. My mistake. Carry on! I didn't mean to interrupt your ambiguous but odd conversation.
I was trying to be clear, it was a honest Qn, based on a long posting pattern.

Dave999 2013-07-19 13:21

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1359881)
I'd watch that, but I'd prefer that it by done by a very good doco maker, not some hack.

Yes, but the best docs are create bu unknown directors. As soon as they get famous they lost the touch.

Michel Moore vs Malik Bendjelloul

mikecomputing 2013-07-19 19:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1360074)


Why are you leaving out Haiku and ReactOS?

Why are you leaving out FreeRTOS?

Dave999 2013-07-20 08:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1360246)
Why are you leaving out FreeRTOS?

Why are nobody mention the UnknownOS and the UnknownPhone?

mikecomputing 2013-07-20 10:47

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
http://www.jollausers.com/2013/07/wh...-a-comparison/

Dave999 2013-07-20 11:01

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1360338)

Only a fanboy can wirte something like that. How can he know that when the OSs isn't ready!?!?!

http://ragefaces.s3.amazonaws.com/50...1/facepalm.png

Cool reading though. Thank you for that.

Lumiaman 2013-07-20 11:02

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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1360338)

Jolla users? What are they using? Where are the phones? n9 experience sucked, so the author is clearly more than delusional. People care about the whole experience and I just don't see that innovation in Jolla.

don_falcone 2013-07-20 11:30

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They are innovative in that there's now Twitter, and there's a "hunt them all" game involved - hunting for (reliable) information, that is.

Let's keep our (potential) users and devs fit! Let's introduce a random surprise moment! It's so exiting and innovative! You see, we are definitely unlike old industry!

Old dinosaur Nokia instead relied on the old-fashioned and seemingly deprecated usage of product- and platform-specific websites, where most information and news were conveniently aggregated.


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