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I was going to recommend this, https://github.com/pbek/QOwnNotes

But it doesn't run on android, you could try this one maybe https://f-droid.org/packages/org.aykit.MyOwnNotes/

Glade your more happy with your purchase.

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Thanks for sharing that correction Moses :D. You could also figure out how to just reset your devices. I had to do this before. Annoying but easily fixed, unlike those loud audio turnoff/off connected sounds :(

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HDMI output works also trough Lumia dock

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https://i.postimg.cc/7JhBx7hj/IMG-20191130-092436.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/FkkjWx7F/IMG-20191130-093606.jpg


Same spots after the OTA update - Vignette effect is gone.

Also added those two to review post

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Did the update this morning. Still have some strange freezing issue, which mostly happens when you swipe an app to "multitasking screen" (as Android's multitasking is a joke), but you know the screen where you can switch between open apps. Sometimes when you swipe from an app to multitasking screen, the app doesn't succesfully drop, but even the app gets minimized, it's window stays active. So if you for example had some scrollable page open in that app, you can continue scrolling when the app gets minimized. Also the app window area stays active so the screen doesn't detect touching/tapping the screen outside of the minimized app window. This happens quite often and takes annoyingly long (5-10sec) until the app succesfully drops to multitasking screen and screen starts to act normally. Hard to explain but I hope you could catch the idea.

I have also tried to find osso-notes style app, but haven't find it yet. Although you said somewhere that you write a lot, which means you're perhaps looking for a different app than me. I'd like to have a simple app to write down simple things I should remember. For example I tend to write down tools/accessories/spare parts what I should remember to buy before I go to my VW T3 garage for next time. So I'd possibly be happy with a notes widget with few lines of writing space (and this kind of app do exist), but I'm afraid that's not you are looking for.

But smartphones typically have one flaw; they try to be too smart. Well, technically not the phones but the os/app developers. I believe I have written about that before, but an alarm clock is a good example. Old phones had a simple alarm setting: 1. on/off 2. alarm time 3. that's it. It was easy and fast. Nowadays' smartphone alarm apps try to be smart; there is multiple alarms, you can set different alarm times for different week days, like alarm at 7 on workdays and 9 on weekends. There is sleep timers, "soft wake"-option (to make a quiet alarm like 30min before actual alarm in case you would be more spry already), different naapping options and so on. I HATE all this :D I loved the good-old simple alarm clock, which didn't try to know what I need/want. I work in three shifts, and my every week is different. Also the shift start times are not standardized (morning shift can start at 7 or 8, evening shift can start at 12, 13, 14 or some random time between those) night shift can start at 20 or 21. Technically, it could be possible to add the shifts to the calendar app and then use some cron-based app to set an alarm time for each shift. BUT. Even on morning my wake up time depends on if I'm going to work by bike or am I gonna run (which depends on weather and my personal meh-factor :D ) On evening shifts it's even more complicated, because the wake up time depends on if I want to wake up early and get something done before work, or just sleep late. Basically the same with night shifts.

So there's actually no point on configuring an alarm for each day. With Sailfish/Maemo alarm clock apps I ended up having tens of different alarm time settings, like at 5.20, 5.40, 6.20, 6.40, 7, 7.30, 8, 8.30, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 18.30, 18.45, 19, 19,30, 19.45, 20.00 and so on. You'll get the idea. Just adjusting the time of an old alarm is made too complicated with all the options and setting, so it is easier to just make a new alarm. The native Android alarm clock has the same issue. Although it's easy just to modify the alarm time, the clock-a-like graphical time setting is far from being intuitive :D I believe I could get used to it, but still, what the hell? Why not digital clock with time setting by arrows or just inserting numbers?

The being-too-smart problem plagues the notes apps too. When you create a new note, the app asks what kind of note it is (memo, shopping list, etc), then you have to name the note and choose a color for it and set an alarm and make a widget and so on, and when you finally get the chance to write you thing, you have already forgotten what it was... The problem in trying to be to intuitive and smart, is that the app is taking control of my tasks rather than being a tool of mine. Android is the worst on this aspect, but I'd say that every OS I have used have had hints of this problem at least in some apps.

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What is currently the state of LineageOS for the Pro1? Are there any ETAs?

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https://community.fxtec.com/topic/25...0-test-builds/

There are test builds not suitable for everyday use.

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I'm not sure if this will help, but for those that are looking for an app to takes notes, the two I most use are called "Keep Notes" and "Notebook"

Keep Notes is easy to use and is good to make lists of things like shopping lists, expenses and so forth. You can also make entries by writing with your finger or with appropriate pen you can draw on screen with.

Notebook is set up a little differently where you create books that are placed on a grid and you select one to make entries in.

Hope that helps!

One question. How much battery drain overnight when phone is idle?

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Hmm, might try that. Sounds like exactly what I need!

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Just so much +1 (and this also applies to PC software incl. even compiler, e.g. C# 'trying' to guess best reference (spoiling solution for others) instead using configured one and possibly fail

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and you also can have 821489643 different alarms on android so........
If the alarm is such a big deal that needs half a page of ranting then better just put that in a drawer :D
Just wait until one of 635 assistants start asking stuff because it recognized some pattern :D

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Barely noticable. will check for you this night.
From what percentage do you want to start the test 100% or the safe 80% i set the battery manager to stop currently?

On the high demand side, navigating with no charger plugged in is also very possible. I drove home yesterday and only noticed 3% drop from 68% to 65% on the 18 minutes drive.
Forgot to plug in charger, noticed at home.
No idea if that means interpolated ~600 minutes navigation with OLED on?? That sounds too fantastic.

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Script in terminal (no, seriously):
I made one working by subjects and writing the $1 into a text file after the date/time
Example
will write
at the end of a text file called, for example, t3_to_buy.txt

And I made one for each needs: shopping, diary, todo, scripting tricks, n900 tips...

If the terminal exist in android and the notion of "text file" (even file)...sorry, I am mean:( ;)

So you file yourself for "them" so "they" don't have to do it later :D

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Yeah, it depends very much. Few days ago I installed AMOLED app which gives the so called n9 sneak peak screen. So you can have the clock and for example notifications to the otherwise black screen. I left it running overnight and actually slept over 11h that night.. Anyway it spent 45% of battery in 11h. Perhaps some optimization could be done for that, but still quite power hungry compared to normal about 5% battery usage overnight.

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Pretty impressive navigating! With my Mate 20 Pro I used navigation starting around 90% and ended at about 23% after a 5 hour drive from NYC to DC area.

Starting at 80% to test overnight drain sounds like a good idea! Thanks!

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tl;dr
It went down 7% from 80% in 8h 39m at zero screen use but all connectivity options on/idle.

The screenshots on android 9 (or only pro1?) are done with pressing volume down and power key same time.
I use accu battery to limit the max charge to 80% but it does not cut off the charging process. Only gives an audio signal for the user to plug out the charger.
It would be quite cool to have such a program on sfos if that really reduces battery wear by the amount the android app claims.

The false reported design capacity in 2nd screenshot is a known issue on pro1 and a user in FX forum gave a direct hint already how to fix it. Might be quickly solved. (sorry for not digging out the link)

Edit,
Just now saw the first screenshot yields quick charge information in the second row. The Pro1 battery charged from 35% to 80% in 25m using the original charger. I mainly charge in car with a regular 2A charger tho.

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There is Battery Notifier 2 on Sailfish. I thought there was even an application stopping the charge after the set threshold, but I cannot find it anymore. Maybe I made it up.

There is also Charger Control, which allows stopping the charge at a given threshold, but it does not seem to be maintained for latest SFOS version and new devices.

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I don't quite understand why not just setting one alarm and changing the time every time you need to change it, as you would do with the old-fashioned alarm applications you are missing? Your description of what you need indicates that you would change the time every evening even with an application closer to your needs. Sure, a numeric keypad would probably be faster than the the circular sliders of SFOS, but since you have set dozens of distinct alarms already, why not just editing the same one all the time? This would avoid the clutter that seems to be one of your main concerns.

I don't think the SFOS alarm applications tries to outsmart the user, it just allows programming which days to use it, and turning it on or off regardless of the day. In my opinion this is very convenient, and don't want anything more complicated than that, but I did not feel that these extra features came at the cost of usability since if I cannot plan my wake-up times on a weekly basis, then I'll just use the alarm as I would with a simple one: set one to go off every morning, and adjust the time in evenings when need be.

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I meant that it's too slow and impractical to edit the time on existing alarm preset, so it'd be easier to make new one. I don't like the alarm setting interface with the graphical clock on Android/Sailfish, and actually Maemo's scrollable 'wheels' were the worst.

The alarm clock was an easy example for a problem which exists in nowadays smartphone era. There's other examples too, but right now I don't remember any. It is true that Sailfish isn't being too bad on this factor.

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I agree that there is a trend to make applications more complicated to the point that they need to collect your data without you knowing to better suit your needs before you even know you need it, just like Google and Amazon better know what I want to buy before I know I want to. And that is annoying, especially when there is actually data collection to make those features feasible. But for the clock example, or other "basic" applications, I think it's not that bad yet.

I am fully with you about the clock interface, and I agree that the Maemo way is even worse (says someone who loves Maemo). A simple numeric field edited by putting a cursor in it and typing with a keypad would be much simpler, but hey. Anyway, I'm not sure that making a new alarm in SFOS is simpler that editing one since you'd still have to go through the circular clock interface, the only difference is the long press to edit, but that would save the clutter of multiple useless alarms.

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Here's another suggestion for notetaking that might be worth trying. I use notecase (notecasepro.com) on my n900 and sync it with my computer, and it's available on android as well,

It's not open source but powerful and still updated for the n900 (!). I haven't tried it on android but it will be one of the first apps I'll download when I get my f(x)tec pro.

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It seems I finally got mobile data fixed for real on SailfishOS (tested with Telenor HU). Please do to install updated packages and some missing SailfishOS parts.

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Awesome. Thanks TheKit.

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Short unboxing video by F(x)tec themselves:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1196796461238890497

I noticed that the USB cable is not as funky as the green/purple (if I remember correctly) one pictured in the official certification file we saw some weeks ago, but that'll do. :)

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I've taken to using these for charging my phones. You leave the C connector in the phone to save wearing the socket out by continuously plugging and unplugging the charger.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/UGI-Magneti...%2C169&sr=8-35

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Note that Keep Notes is a Google product and requires Google Play services.

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I've been looking on F-Droid for apps that don't use Google Play Services.
There's quite a few Notebook apps on there, like My Notes, Kolab Notes and Notepad.
Not sure if any of those would be useful.

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Does Google services come on this phone? Just askin. If not is there a problem installing it?

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Yes it does. But some of us prefer not having Google Services installed, for example by using Lineage os or some other custom (android) rom. So the problem is the user, not the device :D

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I can confirm, that mobile data is working now (T-mobile Germany).
Unfortunately camera isn't working anymore after the update. Flashlight is now there (was missing) but doesn't work.

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Thanks for sharing, looks great!
BUT
The contacts on the usb side look pretty prominent.
What happens in case of short circuit by touching a metal piece in the pocket/bag/table?

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I'm using these for half an year for the same reason. They come in threes and with three connectors each. There's a handy little container to carry connectors as a bonus. :)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B07HT6RBYG

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One can also use the Aurora Store, unofficial Google Play client to be able to download apps without gapps (Google Services) installed on the device. Beside that, Aurora Store shows whether an application uses GSF (Google Services Framework) and if it has ads.

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Except that anonymous login doesn't work lately, so you will need to use fake account (due to the possibility of Google blocking yours).

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linux 5.5 msm8998 (snapdragon835) this sounds useful for the mainline effort.

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Thanks for the prompt testing! I made a mistake when rebuilding droid-hal-t5 package, camera should work after updating again.

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The SoC (Qualcomm MSM8998 aka SDM835) is not the issue:

• Qualcomm takes care of that (or rather mostly "took" in case of the SDM835, while Qualcomm's mainlining of the cellular and WiFi modem drivers for the SDM835 is still work-in-progess) via the Linux Foundation's Code Aurora platform.
• Except for some things in the video realm, specifically 3D (OpenGL & Vulkan; but not 2D), but OpenGL support for the SDM835's Adreno 540 3D-accelerator is already in Mesa.

But the specifics of the F(x)tec Pro1 platform are:

• AFAIK, nobody has checked yet, for which peripheral components (GPS, battery gauge, power management controller, keyboard controller, touchscreen controller, accelerometer, magnetometer, cameras (multiple) etc.) device drivers exist, which are licensed compatible to the GPLv2 (which is Linux's license; e.g. Apache, MIT, various BSD licenses and naturally the GPLv2 suffice).
• Missing GPLv2-compatible drivers would have to implemented, for which it makes sense to try to consult the peripheral's manufacturers first (it might be helpful to be able to read, write and speak some Chinese for that).
• A Device Tree (file) for the F(x)tec Pro1 platform has to be created, with parameterised bindings to the device tree entries of the components (SoC and peripherals) this platform is comprised of.
• Device Tree entries describing each peripheral component and binding it (usually also parameterised) to a device driver must be checked and / or created.
• All these efforts would have to be actively upstreamed, which is labour intensive and must be carried out for each aforementioned software component separately (preferably when an individual component is close to be deemed "ready for upstreaming").

Happy coding!
So go for it.

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Oh dear! F(x)tec support has confirmed that stock assignment emails has been sent to customers that are in the second batch and I have not received the mail. This means that I am not in the second batch and most likely not receiving Pro1 before Xmas. I am feeling really sad now. I am also bothered that there are people in the second batch without the IGG coupon.

My order:
Order number 11xxx
IGG coupon
Paid 1st of August
QWERTZ EU

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My order number is #4xxx and not yet received confirmation email and status is still "processing".

EDIT: Not having IGG coupon

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Same here. Also backed the Moto mod. :)

EDIT: Not the same:

Order #51xx, February 27, 2019
IGG coupon
QWERTY, EU
Paid: July 31th 2019
Still Processing.