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attila77 2010-06-22 08:48

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nosa101 (Post 724621)
Why did Android have to get it first?

Because that's the only platform that competes with Apple (other platforms with bigger market shares are targeting different segments of the market).

On a side note, take a look at this PARTNER AND INDUSTRY FEEDBACK:

http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pres...uoteSheet.html

You've got quotes from nigh everybody, HTC, Google, Sammy, Moto, RIM, MS, Dell, Qualcomm, TI, Intel, NVidia, basically everybody except Apple (as expected). But also missing is Nokia. Don't tell me Adobe 'forgot' to ask Nokia for a statement of support ?

xuggs 2010-06-22 08:50

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nosa101 (Post 724621)
Why did Android have to get it first?

They are cetainly selling more devices with Android then our beloved N900 and thats thanks to Nokia.

I simply just dont understand Nokias strategies.

nosa101 2010-06-22 08:54

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 724634)
Because that's the only platform that competes with Apple (other platforms with bigger market shares are targeting different segments of the market).

That is my issue with the whole Adobe thing. They want to prove Steve Jobs wrong so bad

xuggs 2010-06-22 08:58

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nosa101 (Post 724638)
That is my issue with the whole Adobe thing. They want to prove Steve Jobs wrong so bad

Then they should perhaps provide (offer) support for every other device (including Nokia) other then Apple.

I am not sure who is to blame here Adobe or Nokia but we are basically on the losing end.

When my Google Street Map view stopped working yesterday I was heart broken really especially when it was working a few days ago.. thats like a blockage man. It really sucks.

pantera1989 2010-06-22 09:10

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 
There something I haven't understood so far. MicroB is using a Mozilla engine. With extensions and addons and what not. Can't Flash 10.1 be added as an addon and not incorporated in the firmware?

Not even an addon without GPU support?

Panayotis689 2010-06-22 09:17

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 
Hi everybody,

I have just read Adobe has officially deliver Adobe 10.1 Mobile for developpers...

http://www.pcinpact.com/actu/news/57...ple-html-5.htm

What's about for Maemo?

P@t 2010-06-22 09:27

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 
I am pretty sure that Nokia knows exactly if they will incorporate Flash 10.1 in a future update of the N900.
But they do not communicate. And this is so bad.
Meego is mentioned by Adobe but nothing about Maemo.

I am pretty sure now that it means that indeed this is not coming. And as the community is quite sensitive these days to some issues regarding Meego, I believe this is just politics, I mean that they are just waiting for the right moment to announce that this is not coming.
Or maybe it will not even be announced but will be de facto a reality.

And now I do believe this is nothing related to Adobe. The press release is clearly trying to say: everybody is dancing with us apart from Apple. So Flash is great and we bring it to everybody.

And then Qim wonder why we feel abandoned ;)
This is nothing related to open-source or not. This is related to the fact that Maemo is gradually abandoned while the focus is on Meego.

Personally I was enthusiastic about the N900 and I am still. And I do not know why I had so much hopes with Nokia !!

attila77 2010-06-22 09:51

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by P@t (Post 724682)
This is nothing related to open-source or not. This is related to the fact that Maemo is gradually abandoned while the focus is on Meego.

?? What do you mean not related ? Do we perhaps have the access to that source ? Adobe conveniently talks about giving it to partners (as said, Nokia is glaringly missing from that partner list, so can't ask Nokia even for sources), and offered/gave nothing to US, end users. Seriously, what are we to Adobe ? Everybody is so keen on dissing Nokia for being silent but at the same time Adobe gets forgiven for treating end users like dirt and making choices purely on politics and vanity. It takes two to waltz, and Adobe is waltzing with someone else.

Plus, I'm not at all sure about MeeGo, not in the sense the article includes it. First of all, that Nokia device is not MeeGo on the system level, so any Flash in there will be have to be made as if it was for Maemo. Add to it that they put it right along LiMo... Considering Intel is among the partners, it smells of 'well, MeeGo is a X86 Linux thing, so we'll just use the desktop Linux version, right ?'.

ossipena 2010-06-22 10:21

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xuggs (Post 724636)
They are cetainly selling more devices with Android then our beloved N900 and thats thanks to Nokia.

I simply just dont understand Nokias strategies.

why not, the strategy with maemo has been known for ages (5 steps, ...)

P@t 2010-06-22 10:39

Re: Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 
@attila77
I mean there is some open-source version for Flash but I doubt that we can have something as integrated in Maemo not using the Nokia-Flash product?
So yes this is closed. And yes we cannot do anything about it (Adobe is not listening). We are dependent on Nokia!
So it seems useless to talk and talk about open-source because it will not help here. What we need here is Nokia!

By the way thanks for informing us about the absence of Nokia in the list of partners! This is indeed very interesting.
If this is coming from the fact that Nokia now only like open-source products, this is nice to hear. But there is probably (clearly) more than that!

About Meego, I do not know anything about the technical similarities between Meego-Harmattan and Meego. But I do not think that Nokia will not put Flash 10 on the next mobile (N9). Otherwise, they will be placed as a friend of Apple that they do not want to be. Plus they have to fight against Android which is having Flash 10. Remember that Android will be one very important Meego competitor. Another reason is that starting with a lack of apps, they have at least to show a full-internet experience...etc...


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