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That would be particularly helpful to write extra xkb configs, like something close to intl-us which I think would be very useful.

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 

That app sniffs the keycodes correctly but anything i change is not working.
Like some setting overrides the changes.

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 

Unfortunately can't take a look yet. Was working okay on the Gemini.

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Lots of garbage to sift through on the fxtec forum but long story short, they shipped the second batch and third batch is on the way. They're working through about 10-20% of preorders per week, meaning it could take between 5-10 weeks to fill them all.
In other words it's unlikely they have general availability before Christmas and be prepared to wait at least another month or two...

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Not the EU part yet, but I didn't fully understand what Erik replied about EU customers in the second batch (if anyone has an idea, please let me know).

In any case, it is shaping up nicely. Sure, it will take some time before everyone has a Pro¹, but the most important is to see signs that the company is doing good and not struggling with funding issues. Continuous batches is a very good sign.

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Do they have anywhere how many devices have been ordered already? Would like to know how big the community is getting.

And now I think it could be a wise move if someone would make in maemo forum an F(x)Tec Pro1 part and all this hardware issues, bugs, workarounds and so on would be pointed there instead of this thread.

Anyone to support this idea? And is there anyone who could do it?

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People on Fxtec forum seemed to be really upset when Fxtec told that there will be no protective case, at least included to preorder and they have decided to replace it with the sleeve. Personally I was not surprised at all; I'm not a designer of anything but I find it very difficult to imagine such a case on a device like Pro1. Sure, there were otterbox etc for n900, but the design of Pro1 is different in many ways. The hinge mechanism is different and display is tilted when keyboard is out. Also the phone is overalla much thinner and smoother shape, which makes attaching the halves of the case very difficult. At least without screws or glue.

So I felt the whole case thing quite uninteresting. Couldn't even imagine why I'd need domething like that, until today. Today I went to my garage to do some car service/building. I only had some mostly clean jobs to do (mostly wiring under dashboard), but still it felt so wrong having the Pro1 just lying around. With n900 I had no problem with it; even felt fine to do some quick internet searching with greasy rubber gloves on, but couldn't imagine doing the same with the Pro1. At least as the device is this new :D But a protective case doesn't feel so useless anymore :D
https://i.imgur.com/bXp2XBc.jpg

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The Pro1 is very similar to the N97 and that one had a flip case. But TBH as the Pro1 is pretty much twice the size of the N97 something like a leather flip case is gonna be cumbersome with it flapping about when it's open.
I'll see what the sleeve is like and decide from there. They are already available on Amazon and Ebay.

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Clove Technology have now said they are expecting stock in on Dec 12. There's no info on how many orders they have taken. But I don't think I'll see mine before Christmas.

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Eh no, rubber gloves wouldn't work on resistive screen as they do on N900!
Ahhh, the good old pressure sensitive screen...
:D:cool:

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You probably mean rubber gloves wouldn't work on capacitive screen as they do on the resistive screen of N900. ;)

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Yes..haem...well...:o

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It seems that nitrile gloves do work on a capacitive screen, which I learned in a somewhat stomach-churning lesson.

I needed a serious main drain cleaning (in my house) and the plumbers came with both a high pressure water-jet cleaning snake and a "see snake" camera that can be dropped down the sewer to see what's up. The "See Snake" device required an app to control it, and the plumber's assistant was able to use the app on his cell phone -- the same Samsung device he used to make calls -- while wearing the nitrile gloves that protected his hands (but not his face!!) from the sewage on the snake cable.

So, ya, just stop and think about touching your capacitve screen with the gloved hand that's been handling the sewage-befouled cable of a sewer camera . . . :eek:

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I'd be quite annoyed if some third-party store gets devices before pre-orders to be honest. At least, if the third party gets devices before pre-orders from F(x)tec that placed them earlier than when people could buy it from that third party. And Dec 12 seems incredibly optimistic.

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Yep. Nitrile gloves, even quite thick, heavy duty gloves seem to work nicely on capacitive screen. Plus with Pro1 hwkb obviously.

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There are almost all kinds of gloves at my work place, latex, nitrile, vinyle, if anyone wants confirmation of what works with capacitive screens. Not sure the test would be very useful though, as in the vast majority of cases, I'm sure we're not supposed to use our phones when wearing lab gloves. :>

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IDK how promising small successive batches are. Curious to know how many total orders there are, but it doesn't look like that many. They need more press coverage to stir up sales but it looks like their hands are full right now... And they missed black Friday and the holiday shopping season too which cant be good for business
What a rocky start.

I hope the whole team is working double overtime to get out of this production hell. They're burning daylight and the world of tech doesn't slow down for anyone

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I don't think those holiday sales mean much for them right now. It is not mass market device to follow market tendencies to start with, or we would not see QWERTY slider device at all right now. I think people don't casually go shopping for keyboard phones just for holidays. Even if they had Black Friday, what good would that do if phone can't be made significally cheaper at the moment?

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Have asked for F(x) on different supliers in Finland. None have even knoen it so far .

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Exactly. I'd be pretty piffed if that happened to me, that's why I'm not optimistic for a pre-crimbo delivery. I didn't get the chance to pre-order, didn't have the funds at the time. I just hope the wait times are not too long for everyone.

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Frustrating aint it? TBH I don't think the majority of suppliers keep themselves up to date on what's incoming in the mobile world.
They just sit on their *** and wait for the promo flyers from the big 4 - Samsung, Apple, Sony & Huawei. Nothing else exists to them.

Give Clove Technology a try. I'm sure they ship to all EU states.

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well............. they found partner which is quite huge so in order to keep that going they have to give them something. And it's not that they will sell 100k of them. So if fx do send them some units before those who are preordered it's kinda understandable.
They want to push that outside of TMO and preorders, we want them to make it so don't be so upset if it appears at clove. That might be just a few units.

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And how do we know Clove Technology is not a pre-orderer too?

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That's just assumption upon assumption. I'm not saying they shouldn't sell the phones via partners. They don't need to give them something. They could just sell them to the store at a lower price, like most manufacturers do. And the problem isn't that they have a large amount. Plenty of variables that you just assume as facts.

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Hi,
anybody can post global rearside high quality picture of F(x)Tec Pro 1 device?

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 

Sorry, I don't really understand the question.
What I understood is, that you want a high quality pic of the rear side of the Pro 1. What I don't understand is, what you mean with global. I can make a photo of the rear side with my DSLR. But I don't really know what's the point you are really interested in. If you would tell, that would probably help taking a photo according.

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 

They probably want a hi-res photo of the back of the handset, by the sounds of it. 100s of them here https://www.google.com

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 

Hi,
i would like to compare my rear cover with you.
can you do it please

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 

Sure. I'm not at home today, but will do that tomorrow.

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 

That escalated quickly. People are going crazy waiting for their Pro¹.

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 

Maybe the fact that they ordered one in the first place could already be entitled as somewhat crazy? :rolleyes:

PS
Consider this as some kind of self-reflection.
Ordered one.
Still waiting for delivery. Will blame Santa Claus when not delivered before year's end.
And remaining Chen, Adrian & Co fan ... without any delay. :D

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https://lastgadgetstanding.com/compe.../entries/pro1/


Guys, the Pro¹ is joining some contest about a gadget of the year.
Please vote it's just a few clicks (no need to register!)

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 

I'm not going to vote for something I haven't been able to use yet, so maybe next year.

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 

I will because I know that the device is awesome from the previews and hands on videos. It really is a great gadget.

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The same. I'll vote when I'll have mine, not before.

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The voting is CES related so Craig asked on Twitter if F(x) will attend.
The answer is yes!

The other more prominent contestants have thousands of votes already and many of those voters probably do not own the device and only show interest, taste or fanboyism?
Dunno if that competition is the right place to differentiate too much. It is more like, from the presented options, vote for the one you like most.
I do not own any of the other contestants devices and thus gave a very uneducated vote ;)

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I voted twice... and my second votenumber was 116...

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I inherently do not trust previews. Then again, we now also have user previews which are positive. Still, there could be slight differences between batches, or the reviews might be biased, etc.

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If you don't do it for the product, why not just doing it for your fellow tmo user?
If they end up in the top 8, they can go to the CES and get more publicity.

These guys have put in their hearts to the hardware Keyboard device , which no other companies did in the last decade.
You won't lose anything to help a fellow user.

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I prefer to not lie like that, even if the end result would be positive. I'd be "losing" my standards.

EDIT: I only just read the site's FAQ, and aside from it being not very clear, I think the contest is about "most likely to succeed", not best of the year. It's about devices shipping in Q2 2020. So I misunderstood the contest conditions and what I was voting for. Disregard what I said then, might as well vote for it then.