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Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms

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Originally Posted by fw190 (Post 1360525)

How to play those on N900? (googling did not help me much or I did not search goog enough :) )

Edit:

I have tried mplayer but no luck, then remembered that there was something like extra decoders support but didnt see it in HAM - apt get decoders-support did the trick but the video doesn't run smooth even on slightly OC N900 with dsp profile loaded

i'm overclocked to 950 and the extra decoders webm support appears to be flaky, the sound stops and starts, video is fine.

however i was able to play it more or less fine using mozilla fennec for maemo.

just enter the file location in the address bar like

file:///home/user/MyDocs/elephants-dream.webm

but you may have to overclock a lot like me, as webm doesn't use dsp, just cpu.

EDIT: long press on the video in fennec to go full screen.

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms

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Originally Posted by rcolistete (Post 1360402)

I disagree. The current situation for mobile developers from Maemo/MeeGo/Nemo Mobile to Sailfish pathway is IMHO :
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2) softwares in Python/PySide/Qt 4.7-4.8 (Qt Quick 1) : only about 10-20% of MeeGo Harmattan and Nemo Mobile softwares, just some small % of Maemo 5 softwares. But Python is important, allowing party-time developers to code on device (N900, N9, etc), anytime, anywhere, and contribute to the software diversity. The same migration from Harmattan (etc) Qt Quick components to Sailfish Silica is needed, with small-medium source code revision & rewrite. There are more options for Qt5/Wayland migration, none ready at the moment :
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2.c) use a future PyQt 5 version, because the current one excludes Qt Quick 2. There is also the issue of GPL license and release PyQt 5 for Mer/Nemo/Sailfish;

More news about PyQt 5 and Qt 5/Qt Quick 2 support :
- PyQt 5.0.1 (next release) will have Qt Quick 2 support, and PyQt 5.1 will have Qt 5.1 support, see
PyQt and Qt 5.1 discussion.

So, in theory, PyQt 5.1 will give Python access to develop softwares (with GUI) for Sailfish, Ubuntu Touch, Android, iOS, etc. Obviously somebody needs to compile PyQt for them.

PyQt 5.0 was released in June 16th, I haven't found any estimate date for PyQt 5.0.1 and 5.1. But PyQt 5.0.1 is the current development snapshot, see the change logs which says "Completed the initial implementation of the QtQuick module" in July 20th.

We Python developers (for Sailfish, etc) should pay attention to PyOtherSide and PyQt 5.x developments.

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms

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Originally Posted by rcolistete (Post 1360774)

So, in theory, PyQt 5.1 will give Python access to develop softwares (with GUI) for Sailfish, Ubuntu Touch, Android, iOS, etc. Obviously somebody needs to compile PyQt for them.

That could an issue, as if I understand it correctly PyQt in its current build scripts doesn't really support cross-compilation. Might not be much an issue in Scratchbox based SDKs such as the Sailfish one, but could be an issue when cross-compiling, like for Android or BB10.

But I remember the PyQt author mentioning that once Qt officially supports Android (that should be probably 5.2, 5.1 has initial support), he will make PyQt work on it too. So this could be another issue that will be moot in the near future.

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms

http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23ne...07-24.log.html

namefake greetings! is there any news on xwayland for memo? [15:03]
namefake nemo that is. [15:03]
faenil can anyone troubleshoot this tar_git error? ( w00t__ ? :D) https://build.merproject.org/package...=home%3Afaenil [15:03]
sledges namefake, we are work in progress of nemo on wayland first [15:04]
sledges quite likely xwayland will happen soon after

http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23ne...07-25.log.html
xavinux haw are you!...read that wayland is now running ne Nemo [16:29]
xavinux ḧow [16:29]
sledges getting there getting there :) [16:29]
sledges well PoF was already months ago [16:30]
sledges on N950 [16:30]
sledges PoC [16:30]
sledges now it's in a clean-up stage

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms

It's always interesting how the worm -ultimately- turns :)

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms

Why is sailfishsilica non-oss? http://releases.sailfishos.org/sdk/0.../non-oss/i486/

Wasn't Sailfish supposed to be fully open source?

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms

WTF? New release of the SDK?

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms

Seems imminent :)

Digging through all those packages shows alot of exciting stuff.

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms

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Originally Posted by Morpog (Post 1362563)

Seems imminent :)

Digging through all those packages shows alot of exciting stuff.

Exciting indeed.
The most exciting stuff includes (after few minutes of digging through):

Calligra
FM Radio (at least receiver)
All the grilo plugins, most of all Jamendo, Youtube, Flickr...
Btrfs?
All the new 'noarch' stuff ;)

XWayland missing, so no surprise there.

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Originally Posted by marmistrz (Post 1362535)

Why is sailfishsilica non-oss?

IIRC, they said the QML parts of SilicaComponents will be open - under BSD license (at least initially). This repo contains the QML parts together with the binary libraries, so that's probably the reason why couldn't be included in 'oss'.

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms

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Originally Posted by marmistrz (Post 1362535)

Why is sailfishsilica non-oss? http://releases.sailfishos.org/sdk/0.../non-oss/i486/

Wasn't Sailfish supposed to be fully open source?

Not fully, they've made that pretty clear so far, but I'm pretty sure Silica was supposed to be (at least mostly) open.

*EDIT* already explained (& better) by nodevel

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Originally Posted by nodevel (Post 1362577)

The most exciting stuff includes (after few minutes of digging through):

Calligra
FM Radio (at least receiver)
All the grilo plugins, most of all Jamendo, Youtube, Flickr...
Btrfs?
All the new 'noarch' stuff ;)

W00t! Especially BTRFS (if correct), loving it!