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Say it's like the Oscars. You're eligible for 2019 Academy Awards as long as you meet some (very) minimal theatrical release in the year. Nevermind that most people won't be able to see it for months later, an Oscar nomination will create buzz and demand for tickets. Likewise the Pro1 . . .

And besides, are all the other nominees widely available? Asking for real, because I can't seem to see the rest of the candidates. :confused:

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You mean VoLTE on WiFi? That is dependent on your mobile operator, and they might limit to national IPs.

One can on the other hand use different apps and/or SIP operators.

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Is the Sailfish port dual-bootable? Or is it a situation of "you can test SFOS but then the phone's only partly usable right now"?

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No dual-boot, nor is it planned, but there is demand so we will see. However the Pro1 can be factory reset to Android, so the risk is limited. The SFOS port seems somewhat functionnal, based on the currently open issues on Github, though there are still limitations (the main one being the GPS, but the chip is detected and it's entirely possible that it works on retail devices; I should be able to test in two days).

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https://mail.webfx.co/t/ViewEmail/i/...A88C2FAEAC43DE

Hu, funny. What did I say about not getting my phone before Febbuary ?

Well, even if it's not the waited news and we already can know this for two weeks at least, that's still some news. Thanks about them.

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Anyone *in here* already has it in hands?

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Mosen and Fellfrosch have a retail version (maybe others?), and TheKit has a pre-prod unit. Mine is in transit, initially scheduled for delivery today, but UPS delayed it to Thursday; apparently it has been picked up but they "were unable to dispatch the trailer on time". https://reho.st/forum-images.hardwar...o/tinostar.gif

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Got email notification today from Clove Technology followed by another email from UPS that my Pro1 should be arriving sometime tomorrow.

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Are you a Motorola keyboard mod backer or have the devices started shipping to regular pre-orderers? And when did you complete your payment?

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I have a tracking number saying it'll be here tomorrow :).

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Fellfrosch, can you tell if the modifier keys are sticky on SFOS? Also, if the phone is in sleep mode, can you wake it up by (1) opening the keyboard and/or (2) pressing a key if keyboard is already open?

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Thanks for your update, and it's obviously not your fault but that's hilariously terrible. When it comes to businesses they can uphold promises, but when it comes to their own customers that might've been loyal for years now they just keep promising it's only a couple of weeks away, week upon week upon week...

Why do those businesses get priority? Why should the customers of those businesses get them earlier then direct pre-orderers? Why should I have pre-ordered if it didn't mean anything? What did me paying mean if it didn't mean to get the device earlier?

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While I have been generally more amused of complaints about delayed deliveries here than anything else, I do greatly agree with Shirabe here.

If the case really is that retailers get priorized over over individual pre-order customers in business case like Fxtech, who communicates outside the importance of community and enthuastist, even I find annoying. Of course Clove tech might be pre-orderers or investors themselves. Or FxTech might just bee in great need of cash and has to prioritize new revenue sources. In those cases I understant.

This might be my first scrach or pump with them. Well, you never know what happens with startups and pre-orders :)

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No, not backing the Moto keyboard mod. I did originally sign up for updates when the Pro1 project launched, but after being the victim of a couple of failed crowd funding projects I wanted to wait until the device was actually in production before ordering.
Finally ordered via Clove in November. Wasn't actually too hopeful for delivery before Christmas as I was aware of the pre-orders.

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Frustration is understandable. I wasn't expecting delivery before Christmas, in fact I was believing more like late Jan-Feb/March as I was aware there had been an issue with the screen on earlier models and that there were pre-orders to get through.
Hope your wait isn't too long.

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Have you any link for ordering a Pro1 to them ?

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Currently in stock:

QWERTY

https://www.clove.co.uk/products/fxt...20904891482171

QWERTZ

https://www.dragonbox.de/en/handheld...eyboard-qwertz

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Yes I have received it. About a week and a half ago.

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DragonBox had 20 units and 13 currently left. For Clove Technology the stock amounth is uknown. In addition, Digitec/Galaxus (same shop?) has (or will soon have) 5 pcs of QWERTZ units.

• https://www.digitec.ch/de/s1/product...lefon-12435539
• https://www.galaxus.ch/de/s1/product...lefon-12435539

"Mail delivery / collection
approx. 9 - 11 days
5 pieces ordered from the supplier."

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This sounds like a goddamn joke. I pre-ordered my Pro1 directly from F(x)tec, paid for it in August, haven't received it yet. What's the point of pre-orders if you proritize retailers anyway?


/edit: I wasn't aware of how small the retailers stock was, so this opinion is probably too harsh

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It's possible that they have preordered.

Also there is possibility of some business relations, like providing logistics.

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To be fair, it is possible that those retailers were IGG backers also. There was a possibility to select "Retailer Bulk Order" during Moto Mod campaign. It included 10 pcs so maybe they got 10 IGG coupons also.

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You are perfectly right to be annoyed, but how do you know when those retailers ordered and paid their pieces, eventually made a legally binding order for some hundred Pro1. In those cases this is their share of the first batch.
I don't see huge stocks at any retailer either.

On the positive side F(x)tec seems to be continously producing and delivering so everybody may get their expensive toys sometime. :rolleyes:

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Because they seem to be getting the phones on a different schedule then the rest, they're not in the same batch as any other customer. And that they only advertised to sell the phones very recently in the grand scheme of things.

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No, they didn't got a different schedule. These retailers got stock from the 2nd batch that was delivered to EU. DragonBox and Clove Technology changed the stock status yesterday. People from 2nd batch started to receive units in EU during this week.

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Guess Fxtec's more behind then I thought. I thought we were waiting on the third batch and the second batch was long since delivered.

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After at least one additionnal delay still to announce you mean ?

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After thinking about it some more, I think Fxtec just shouldn't have sold phones to stores on the same schedule as individuals. Technically it probably all checks out, but the same as how they technically started shipping on the 29th of October, it doesn't feel good. By supplying to stores they're directly feeding the possibility to allow people who paid significantly later to get the phones earlier than they would if they ordered directly. This seems to be breaking the promise that general availability comes after every pre-order has been fulfilled.

Then again, that's also if it's to be believed that they just paid very early. Considering we're talking about minutes here, I find that hard to believe for 2 stores. And that one of the stores is talking about a special deal reinforces that thought.

In short, just your regularly scheduled kick in the nether regions by Fxtec, just when I thought I couldn't be bothered anymore because I was ignoring all they said.

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you are thinking too much..........
Unless you know exactly how they got those phones, product of your thinking is just whining and nothing else.
So, either prove that any of those store jumped the line or just stop thinking.
AFAIK, anyone here could preorder more than one unit. And then put it on ebay.

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I guess Fx had an agreement with Clove as a retailer for their device.
There's a lot of stuff that appears on the Clove site before it hits the shelves of network retailers. Clove may have made some investment in the development of the Pro1.
Understandably people are going to be disappointed that retailers are being supplied before the backers.

Received mine just now.
Initially I'm impressed with the build quality and professional packaging.
Powered it up, skipped all the "Sign up for Google This and Google That"
I'm finding the curved screen makes handling a little awkward which makes it difficult to pick it up or work the slider without starting one of the shortcuts or widgets on screen. I'll have to work out a snazzy move to do the slider thing. :)
Finger print scanner seems to be a bit hit and miss, but I guess that's down to the fact that I'm used to using the Xperia X scanner.
Personally I can't see it developing as big a cult following as "The Beast", but you never know.

I just hope you guys that are still waiting get yours sooner than later.
I believe Fx have sorted the backers into batches and as they come in from the factory they're going out in batches to the customers assigned to that batch. I have also read that there was a problem with some screens which caused a delay so the factory upped production to cover the backlog.

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lmao, there's nothing wrong with feeling wronged when people that paid later are getting their phones before you, when it was explicitly stated that the sooner you pay the sooner you get the phone.

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congrats stickymick!
Thanks for sharing your info.

Where the headphones included in the 3rd party retail?
I remember an email that said i would receive them within a week after Pro1. But non arrived yet.

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I just made a try to order the Pro1 from Clove Tech, and the price with delivry cost is around 785€. At least with our preoder, the total cost is around 650€, which means a discount of 125€.
But yeah, it's still sucks that, as the contrary of whats pre-orders are and what was written, regular orders can have this phone before pre-orders.

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That or any sort of discount also wasn't why I paid as soon as I did. It was to secure an order that would ship as fast as possible. I'm not saying I'm eager to pay ~800€ for it, but I'm definitely considering it.

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No, no headphones were included. But I've already got a good pair that I got off Amazon.

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Remember also that the Pro¹ is not crowdfunded (I know some will say it is almost the same due to the delays since payments, but well, it still is not a crowdfunded project), meaning F(x)tec had investors. I am not saying those investors included retailers, but that' is a possibility, especially as Clove seems to be UK-based. Or they could just be pre-orderers or IGG backers too. In both cases, it wouldn't be shocking that they get devices at the same time as pre-orderers.

What increases the feeling of being fooled is the slow production followed by long export process. I don't think anyone would have seen a big issue if individual preorders had been fulfilled in a few weeks as initially planned (meaning many more units per week, and shorter duration between those in one batch, those in another one, and retailers). There still is no general availability, those retailers had very limited stocks, so we can't really jump conclusions that F(x)tec skipped pre-orderers to please stockists.

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https://www.androidauthority.com/fxt...review-960653/
This review really hurts, I hope Chen and team took this feedback seriously. Some of the things can't be fixed like curved screen but software faults? Did they get a faulty unit?

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I haven't read the full review yet, but the author claims "Personally, I’m much faster using Gboard". Assuming speed is the only, or even the main parameter to assess a keyboard is a mistake. I know the same author also says in other sentences that the hardware keyboard allows shortcuts and frees some screen estate, but still, his previous comment says a lot. Speed never was the issue with touch keyboards, especially when used with swype.

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I'm pretty much in the same boat as you Kabouik. The review is flawed in quite a few places.
My first spot was "....the Nokia E97....." didn't exist. He's more than likely talking about the N97.
As for his criticism of the screen and comparison with Samsung Galaxies, I've seen countless Samsungs with shattered screens either in use or being dropped off for replacement. As for the keyboard, he only used it for a week compared to poking away on an iPhone or Samsung for years.

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some clearly can :rolleyes: