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trevarthan 2007-11-03 15:30

Re: Kagu Media Player Released 1.0.9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Faye (Post 88904)
Closed it again, rebooted the n800, restarted kagu. still unresponsive (showing 1hr sleep at the bottom).

I think you'll find that most everything is unresponsive immediately after rebooting your tablet. IT OS 2007 runs a bunch of things on boot in the background that take a lot of CPU. If your CPU is too high, everything will be unresponsive, but Kagu will suffer more than most apps because it's GUI is very CPU dependent (in short bursts - not long term - no need to worry about battery life).

Sometimes these tablets need to be rebooted too. They get into strange states sometimes. I don't *think* this has anything to do with Kagu. Probably a hardware/OS bug(s).

In conclusion: if it's working now, don't sweat it.

ascherjim 2007-11-03 15:43

Re: Kagu Media Player Released 1.0.9
 
Not only do I love Kagu (and consider myself wedded to it -- hopefully for life!), I think my recent experiences (and minor frustrations) make me think it's appropriate for me at this time to revisit an issue I raised in September in the Kagu 1.0.8 thread:

QUOTE :1. How do you build your playlist without having Kagu (seemingly) begin playing the instant the first item is entered? Is there a way to delay the starting of play until the full playlist is assembled? UNQUOTE Trevarthan's answer to this was, surprisingly from him, a bit fuzzy and unresponsive.

Considering that currently with my use of my Bluetooth headphones I'm not able to hear the opening bars of any musical number when first initiating play, I believe it is even more important (to me, anyway) that a playlist being assembled does not start playing automatically the moment the first musical number is added to it. First, it becomes disconcerting (again, to me) to be starting to hear the music while I'm still concentrating on adding more items to the playlist. Also, I may wish to edit the playlist before I begin listening to it. There is no way I can figure out how to return to the start of a musical item once it's begun playing.

Now, I recognize that there may well be Kagu users out there who are in such a hurry to have their music begin playing, even while they're still adding to their playlists, that they don't wish to delay their listening gratification the additional second of two it might take to hit the play button to commence their listening. And I suppose I have to reluctantly acknowledge (if not necessarily respect) this need and desire.

But since my problems are currently compounded by a delay in receiving sound through my Bluetooth headphones (probably a buffer issue, as has already been suggested in this thread) my frustration is increased.

My appreciation is deep for all those responsible for Kagu and the a2dp hack (you know who you are!) which has made Kagu, to my knowledge, the only application where I can use my Bluetooth headphones to listen to my music on my N800. But as further improvements are being considered, can we possibly rethink the usefulness (or necessity) for this automatic music start feature? Cannot an option be given to the user which way he or she wants it to be?

And in conclusion(!), do we know whether the new 2008 operating system will permit utilization of Bluetooth stereo headphones without installing the a2dp hack?

trevarthan 2007-11-03 15:55

Re: Kagu Media Player Released 1.0.9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ascherjim (Post 90266)
Not only do I love Kagu (and consider myself wedded to it -- hopefully for life!), I think my recent experiences (and minor frustrations) make me think it's appropriate for me at this time to revisit an issue I raised in September in the Kagu 1.0.8 thread:

QUOTE :1. How do you build your playlist without having Kagu (seemingly) begin playing the instant the first item is entered? Is there a way to delay the starting of play until the full playlist is assembled? UNQUOTE Trevarthan's answer to this was, surprisingly from him, a bit fuzzy and unresponsive.

Yeah, basically you can't right now. We could add a preference item of course. Here, I made a ticket for that: http://kagumedia.com/projects/kagu/ticket/148

I think the reason why it hasn't been done yet is because there isn't a whole lot of interest in the functionality. Maybe someone will pick it up though. It should be really simple to implement now that we have a main menu.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ascherjim (Post 90266)
And in conclusion(!), do we know whether the new 2008 operating system will permit utilization of Bluetooth stereo headphones without installing the a2dp hack?

I don't know yet. I'm anxious for the n810s to go on sale and/or OS 2008 to be released so I can find out. They've released a development SDK, but I haven't had a chance to download it yet. Does anyone else know?

trevarthan 2007-11-03 15:58

Re: Kagu Media Player Released 1.0.9
 
Hey everyone,

I've made a simple mockup of what I want the seek screen to look like eventually:

http://kagumedia.com/projects/kagu/a...png?format=raw

Edit: fixed URL

Here's the associated ticket: http://kagumedia.com/projects/kagu/ticket/122#comment:4

What do you think? Am I on the right track?

trevarthan 2007-11-03 16:00

Re: Kagu Media Player Released 1.0.9
 
That image was made on my N800 with Xournal, BTW. Great program for scratching notes. :)

jmnovak 2007-11-03 16:03

Re: Kagu Media Player Released 1.0.9
 
First, I should say that I think Kagu is the nicest of the media players that I have tried so far; good work, guys!

I do have one issue that I haven't found an answer to on the web yet. I have a lot of J-pop in my collection; while Kagu displays the right number of characters, they are all 'empty boxes' (character not in the font). I do have CJK support installed, and can see e.g. Japanese web pages. Any thoughts?

Thanks!

--John N.

trevarthan 2007-11-03 16:05

Re: Kagu Media Player Released 1.0.9
 
Also, everyone please note that our Official Kagu Wiki is now open to the general public for editing. So, if you want to help out with the documentation, make a correct, or anything else constructive, please feel free.

Tickets are still closed to the general public (editable only by developers), but I'm hoping to install a forum soon on the Kagu site and build the community in other ways. Hopefully Kagu will continue pleasing users well into the future.

Thanks for the help and feedback so far everyone! You're great!

trevarthan 2007-11-03 16:07

Re: Kagu Media Player Released 1.0.9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmnovak (Post 90275)
First, I should say that I think Kagu is the nicest of the media players that I have tried so far; good work, guys!

I do have one issue that I haven't found an answer to on the web yet. I have a lot of J-pop in my collection; while Kagu displays the right number of characters, they are all 'empty boxes' (character not in the font). I do have CJK support installed, and can see e.g. Japanese web pages. Any thoughts?

Thanks!

--John N.

Ick. not sure. probably either a unicode or a pygame/SDL issue. Can you send us an MP3 for testing?

ClockworkCar 2007-11-03 17:23

Re: Kagu Media Player Released 1.0.9
 
Hi Trevarthan. I had a quick look at the open tickets, but couldn't spot this - please please please could you open one for sorting the albums numerically by year from the ID tag?

Here's hoping for v1.1.0:D

gerbick 2007-11-03 17:49

Re: Kagu Media Player Released 1.0.9
 
Ok... I've been using Kagu for a while now... but I have one potentially stupid question. How do I just instantly play one track instead of building a playlist?

It has to be possible, but my searching is coming up zero.


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