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anidel 2008-01-18 17:11

Re: Xournal 0.4.1 coming to OS2008/Chinook
 
looks like you've got libart already installed from some other packages...
I have to look into this...

At least I know better what to look for :) thanks.

debernardis 2008-01-18 17:49

Re: Xournal 0.4.1 coming to OS2008/Chinook
 
chances are he's got libart from gnumeric already. I have just PM'd both you and chelli to be aware of this conflict.

Rebski 2008-01-18 17:53

Re: Xournal 0.4.1 coming to OS2008/Chinook
 
Quote:

chances are he's got libart from gnumeric already.
Spot on! I have Gnumeric already.

Benson 2008-01-18 18:05

Re: Xournal 0.4.1 coming to OS2008/Chinook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by anidel (Post 129960)
Agreed to remove the open icon.
I won't add the text button as it is, as that would mean that even in full screen we'll get the small arrow on the right (eating up more space)...
not sure, tho, when it'll be available.. hopefully this weekend or beginning of next week.

Are you sure? to me it looks like there's room for one more, but maybe there's not. (Just realized there's a large border on the left, so it prob'ly wants as much on the right. <sigh> Guess you're right. Shame we can't handily get rid of excessive margins.)

But, since the thread has turned to "which buttons should be added / axed?", here's some input of what I think.

I think the zoom+ / zoom- buttons on the toolbar are not necessary, since that's already on the +/- hardware keys, so I wouldn't mind if they slid off onto the flyout, or even disappeared entirely.

And I think New File could be removed also, I never use it. Save is good to have handy, keep that one.
Wish there wasn't a GTK bug causing the double-wide, half-inactive color box.:mad:

Select rectangle should be made available too.

Text font would be nice, if we get text.

Last thing, though a bit harder, would be a flyout that gives us either the Pen Options, the Eraser Options, or the Highlighter Options, depending which is selected.
Or, maybe these could be long-press on the Pen Tool, Eraser Tool, and Highlighter Tool, and long-press on the Text Tool gives the Text Font, but that sounds even harder than an adaptive flyout.

So, I'm saying:
Axe
  • New File
  • Open File
  • Zoom -
  • Zoom +
Add
  • Text Tool
  • Text Font
  • Select Rectangle
  • Pen/Eraser/Highlighter Options (if feasible)
  • Copy, Paste, Delete Flyout (for use with Select Rect)

And a quick question: what, if anything, does Enter (middle of dpad) do? It seems to do nothing. Possible useful behaviours:
  • Toggle between zoom to fit page width and previous zoom level. (I draw zoomed in, and am often backing out, and then back in to draw more. This would also permit removal of Zoom Page Width button.)
  • Toggle between most-recently selected tools. (Good for swapping pen/eraser.
  • Go to finger-board to enter text. But how would it know the insertion point? Bad Idea!

Oh, one more gripe, though this one is for the creator of Xournal, nothing to do with your port: I wish the ruled paper were a certain spacing so that, say, a 20pt font would have the same pitch. It seems to be about 20.5pts?!

Thanks so much for the port!

mudhoney 2008-01-18 18:36

Re: Xournal 0.4.1 coming to OS2008/Chinook
 
Xournal is the perfect note taking app for me on my n800. I like it a lot.

That said, I also think the toolbar needs to be customizable, or at least changed to fit my needs better :P. I use the text tool and select rectangle quite often.

gerbick 2008-01-18 18:47

Re: Xournal 0.4.1 coming to OS2008/Chinook
 
Is it still 15mb? Just wondering...

dubwise 2008-01-18 19:12

Re: Xournal 0.4.1 coming to OS2008/Chinook
 
Yup. Ghostscript is ginormous.

There's probably a lot of that we don't need,
but somebody would have to take on the task of repackaging it.

anidel 2008-01-18 22:43

Re: Xournal 0.4.1 coming to OS2008/Chinook
 
nice feedback. i'll check out the libart issue and try to use the same gnumeric libart.
about the feedback, many things are correct, i can removwe many buttons and make more space.
i'll think about it.

thanks everyone.

dubwise 2008-01-19 01:08

Re: Xournal 0.4.1 coming to OS2008/Chinook
 
I was just checking things over prior to installing KDE, and Ghostscript is 33 MB on the Nokia.
Ouch.

anidel 2008-01-19 10:31

Re: Xournal 0.4.1 coming to OS2008/Chinook
 
Now I know how the Maemo team feels after releasing a new firmware....
Customers are never happy :-) and always gives something to work on.

Kidding... I'll maintain the maemo port of Xournal as long as I can and that means work.

I should have good news next week.


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