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debernardis 2008-07-30 05:02

Re: Debian Apps That Run Well On The Tablets
 
The latest update/upgrade of my debian chroot brought Abiword 2.6.4 (we had 2.4.6 before). This seems quite an advancement - Qole you should consider updating the big rootfs! :-)

b-man 2008-07-30 12:37

Re: Debian Apps That Run Well On The Tablets
 
Has enyone got emelfm working? when i try to install it i get the following:

user@Nokia-N800-23-14:/# apt-get -f install emelfm
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Package emelfm is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
E: Package emelfm has no installation candidate
user@Nokia-N800-23-14:/#

As you can see, it is having problems because the package is unavailable or obso
lete in the sorce that it is trying to obtain it from. Perhaps i need to add a url in my /etc/apt/sorces.list?, ware can i obtain this?

I have wierless working and am planning to get a usable bluetooth manager up and running:D

fatalsaint 2008-07-30 14:00

Re: Debian Apps That Run Well On The Tablets
 
What is your issues with bluetooth??

apt-get install bluetooth gnome-bluetooth bluez-gnome

gave me everything I need.. launch gnome-obex-server as user and it gives you a little bluetooth icon in your tray and will accept incoming OBEX transfers.. there is some command line send ones I haven't tried yet.. but I've gotten up to the point of pairing it with my phone and setup wvdial for DUN.. but I never actually ran wvdial and tethered to the phone just configured it.. (this was in beta3.. though everything still appears to function fine in beta4).

Looks like EmelFM is in the Sarge and Etch repo's.. we have SID.. http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=emelfm .. you might try one of those.. download from the website and run a dpkg -i; if it needs dependencies it'll complain but a simple apt-get -f install should grab them and finish setting up the package.. I have to do this kind of thing all day at work :D. This is how I know OBEX transfers are working in beta4 :)

Right now my biggest hurdle is sound =-\.. my beta4 installations keep dying at the n810-keyboard package.. even though it's in the nit-base-packages it is still not building into a .deb and so the repository is not seeing it.. thus crashing my install. I have to manually finish by building the n810 package; install nit-env-x; install icewm; reconfigure dpkg; and set my root passwd...

And apparantly I need to manually configure my sound.. but the .conf files provided by qole aren't working.. and find /dev -group audio only produces 3 devices.. /dev/mixer, /dev/snd/controlC0, and /dev/input/event3... but no /dev/dsp.. so mpd keeps failing to find the audio device.

fatalsaint 2008-07-30 14:19

Re: Debian Apps That Run Well On The Tablets
 
Another option for you:

Emelfm2:
http://emelfm2.net/OtherDownLoads

You can try the latest Ubuntu ones, or compile from source:
http://emelfm2.net/

b-man 2008-07-30 14:26

Re: Debian Apps That Run Well On The Tablets
 
Thanks, now about your keyboard problem, do you have a deb called "n810-slideout-kbd-xmodmap-1.1-2.deb" in your nit-repository? If not, i could send mine to you using rapidshare, would that help?

fatalsaint 2008-07-30 14:34

Re: Debian Apps That Run Well On The Tablets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by b-man (Post 208597)
Thanks, now about your keyboard problem, do you have a deb called "n810-slideout-kbd-xmodmap-1.1-2.deb" in your nit-repository? If not, i could send mine to you using rapidshare, would that help?

Nono.. my keyboard is working.. but that package n810-slideout-kbd-xmodmap.. for whatever reason.. is not installing when I run the installer.

./debian-install

format the partition, tell it to go to svn, it downloads everything (including the source for that package), installs the basic framework of an OS.. and then tries to install nit-env-x but the crashes says it depends on n810-slideout-kbd-xmodmap but it is not to be installed.

So when I go look.. there is no n810-slideout-kbd-xmodmap in my nit-repository/binary directory.. but there IS the source/base for it in the nit-base-packages... so I have to go in there, dpkg-deb --build n810-slideout-kbd-xmodmap.. which builds it just fine, dpkg -i that file, and then apt-get install nit-env-x. But I can't get the installer to just pickup where it left off.. since it died it's done.. if I just restart it it'll get to the point where it tries to download from SVN and die saying nit-base-packages already exists. So I have to basically continue building my base from there. Which isn't hard.. like I said; once you load nit-env-(whatever) it brings down a TON of dependencies, including most of the nit-packages.. you have to set your own root password, and you have to reconfigure dpkg because it was disabled during the install (to disable services, every time you do a /etc/init.d/(service) restart it says it's a fake package.. thus if you boot with this almost nothing works.)

After that your Debian works... The very first time I loaded beta4 I did not have this problem with then n810 keyboard package.. so I don't know if something is remaining on my deletions that are confusing it.. or if something changed in the SVN that broke it... The only difference is the very first time I used the xfce4 default one.. now I am using the basic barebones X package because I want to use IceWM.. not XFCE.

qole 2008-08-03 20:12

Re: Debian Apps That Run Well On The Tablets
 
I am surprised to say that Debian Iceweasel works quite well, once you tweak it a bit.
I found that I need:
  • Debian running in a partition (not the image file, this is too slow)
  • GTK stylus right-click set on
  • powerlaunch fullscreen hack
  • powerlaunch matchbox-keyboard hack (matchbox-keyboard doesn"t seem to have an apostrophe, however!)
  • Toolbar set to small icons, bookmark bar "off"
  • Adblock+ (maybe use css instead for more speed?)

The Transmission bittorrent client (transmission-gtk package) seems to work well with OS2008 with GTK stylus right-click and Iceweasel...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3269/...ff95f755_o.png

dan 2008-08-05 07:22

Re: Debian Apps That Run Well On The Tablets
 
Two great apps for Easy Debian if you get a message when adding an app through Synaptic manager that says 'not enough memory in storage device' or if you get a message 'app did not load properly' get the following two apps GTKOrphan and Wajig. Both have GUI but in Wajig you will need to be Chroot and type 'gjig' to get the GUI and for 'GTKorphan type 'gtkorphan'. Wajig might also require you to install 'Python-glade2' and 'Python-gnome2'. They both help remove 'Orphan apps' and boy does debian leave 'Orphan Apps'( my N800 had 4gb after just 6 app installs! ). Also look for two apps 'gnome-mount' and 'Hal' in 'Not installed(residual config)' on left side of Synaptic manager. Remove them and it should clear up more error install messages. Also do 'apt-get autoclean', 'apt-get update' and in Synaptic manager 'Reload'. One last thing when you do 'Reload' in Synaptic manager if you get an error redo until it reloads properly. If you leave Synaptic manager without a proper reload good luck next time you go into Synaptic manager and try to install another app.

Qole I hope all future environments of full Debian, KDE, Android, etc... are done your Easy Debian Chroot way. I love having the environment in a window where I can still access my Hildon desktop on the left side and I can see my clock and wifi on the top and still go full screen. IMHO it is better than going into a whole other environment and then exiting to get back to Hildon desktop.

I can't seem to load 'Iceweasel Web Browser' from Extra menu! I've done nine fresh installs on two cards and it has never worked. Did I miss something in the Install process. :(

Also any easy way to add more Debian apps to Extra menu so I can have them in a window like Synaptic manager?

fatalsaint 2008-08-05 22:58

Re: Debian Apps That Run Well On The Tablets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dan (Post 210309)
I can't seem to load 'Iceweasel Web Browser' from Extra menu! I've done nine fresh installs on two cards and it has never worked. Did I miss something in the Install process. :(

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...&postcount=273
Quote:

Also any easy way to add more Debian apps to Extra menu so I can have them in a window like Synaptic manager?
Personal Menu.. Create New Item.. "debbie application".

Or for root: "sudo debian application".

If they absolutely have to be in the "extras" menu.. open a terminal:
as root
Code:

cp /usr/share/applications/hildon/ooo.desktop /usr/share/applications/hildon/mynewapp.desktop
vi /usr/share/applications/hildon/mynewapp.desktop

Change to something like
Code:

[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Name=UberSoftware
GenericName=UberSoftware
Exec=debbie application
Icon=<find an icon, or leave it to be Open Office's>

Leave the rest as is.. I don't know of any "easy" way to add items to the default maemo menu.. just Personal Launcher.. it's much easier.

qole 2008-08-05 23:23

Re: Debian Apps That Run Well On The Tablets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dan (Post 210309)
I can't seem to load 'Iceweasel Web Browser' from Extra menu! I've done nine fresh installs on two cards and it has never worked. Did I miss something in the Install process. :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatalsaint (Post 210588)

The upshot of that post is that, until the "debbie" script is fixed (or I give up waiting for a fix and change the menu item in the package), you need to change your iceweasel menu item (edit /usr/share/applications/hildon/iceweasel.desktop as root) so that the "Exec=" line says
Quote:

Exec=sudo debian hilda iceweasel
NOT "Exec=debbie iceweasel"

Sorry for the broken menu item!


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