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tso 2008-12-20 21:45
Re: Flip clock pre pre pre pre release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TrueJournals (Post 251197)
Well, a guy named Mike Rowe (no relation to the Dirty Jobs guy as far as I know), who was a programmer, did register the domain name mikerowesoft.com to promote his software. Microsoft ended up suing him because of the phonetic similarities, and they came to an out-of-court settlement (Wikipedia). Quite ridiculous if you ask me.
he may have gotten away with it had it not been for the computer related stuff...

basically, trademarks can overlap as long as the companies do not deal in the same kind of biz.

thats why apple computers and apple records (beatles) can exist side by side (altho they have a history or arguments, but then steve jobs seems to love stepdancing on peoples toes, just check out the iphone naming dance)...

the tipping point is something like "reasonable chance of confusion" or some interesting legalese of that nature...

lcuk 2008-12-20 21:46
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Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 251256)
Just remove the logo. It isn't worth the hassle or discussion. It bears no use, and once Nokia is aware of it you waste 74.83 seconds of the legal team's time. ;)
which works out at €945,753.80

ciroip 2008-12-20 22:29
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wow, I didnt think was so easy to lights up a flame...
I know is not a matter of sense of humor but I still like to think with a light heart about this kind of projects. The clock, like the theme I did before, is just a personal stunt; they made me know some cool people around and that is their biggest merit.
Anyway thanks to everyone for the comments, I always need different points of view and Ill probably remove the nokia refers from there. Im sure Ill can find some other topic to mock up and spicy a bit the thing.

ciroip 2008-12-20 22:43
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Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 251232)
Just remove the Nokia logo and prevent any worrying about it. maemo.org isn't Nokia controlled, anyway. It's community-controlled with Nokia just sponsoring it.
Yep, I meant 'under the nokia radar' ( the italian word 'controllare' overlap the 2 english terms 'check on' and 'control') sorry for the confusion.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 251232)
Personally, less visual cruft and just being a simple, visually-appealing full-screen clock (which responds to power save events so can be kept running) is what I want to see from this app :-)
lol, I know, all my things end up looking like a mexican pinata, when Ill reach the final version Ill probably ask qwerty12 to 'deb' a serious allbusiness/noparty gray version.
For the power save event I have no idea what are you talking about and I have no clue how implement any powe save feature.
I was just thinking to save some graphic callings when the application is in background, anyway the thing have to check for the alarm in any case.

daperl 2008-12-20 23:09
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Originally Posted by ciroip (Post 251287)
lol, I know, all my things end up looking like a mexican pinata, when Ill reach the final version Ill probably ask qwerty12 to 'deb' a serious allbusiness/noparty gray version.
I vote for one version with as much user configurable stuff that you can jam in there. I definitely want a party/noparty check box. I have some wakeup alarm songs already picked out. Don't stop now; you're on fire!

allnameswereout 2008-12-21 01:53
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ciroip its nothing personal to you, I appreciate your work very much! Its just, there are enough prior cases which prove they will complain once they know, it isn't worth the trouble it can cause, and because of the early stage it is easy to remove the logo with hardly anyone noticing, because hardly anyone uses it (for now!! ;) ).

ciroip 2008-12-21 03:51
Re: Flip clock pre pre pre pre release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 251323)
ciroip its nothing personal to you, I appreciate your work very much! Its just, there are enough prior cases which prove they will complain once they know, it isn't worth the trouble it can cause, and because of the early stage it is easy to remove the logo with hardly anyone noticing, because hardly anyone uses it (for now!! ;) ).
I get this and I decided to follow your advice :).
Im pretty relaxed at this stage and sometime Im like a kid that push the parents patience just to know the limits...
thank you all for the suggestions and comments

nilchak 2008-12-21 04:21
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Ciroip, while I love this clock app, I much preferred the earlier version with the larger display and small bar at the bottom (with logo on the bottom and no mood button on it).

That way the clock letters could be bigger.

I do very much appreciate the alarm function you put in. Could you in any way make the alarm sound louder a bit more ? My worry is that it is a bit on the low side (even with volume up to the top), that I may actually just sleep though it. And since there is no snooze function and repeat function (as yet), and the alarm lasts only for that 1 minute, a louder alarm might just work better.

But kudos to you for this simple but effective app.

ciroip 2008-12-21 05:52
Re: Flip clock pre pre pre pre release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nilchak (Post 251344)
Ciroip, while I love this clock app, I much preferred the earlier version with the larger display and small bar at the bottom (with logo on the bottom and no mood button on it).

That way the clock letters could be bigger.

I do very much appreciate the alarm function you put in. Could you in any way make the alarm sound louder a bit more ? My worry is that it is a bit on the low side (even with volume up to the top), that I may actually just sleep though it. And since there is no snooze function and repeat function (as yet), and the alarm lasts only for that 1 minute, a louder alarm might just work better.

But kudos to you for this simple but effective app.
Yes, since you are not the 1st to request the simple/bigger version (better know as the 'noparty' version) Ill make it to the next release. then, since both version will share the same code but with different graphics i will alternate it with the 'party' version so that I can have the 2 type pretty updated :).
Yes, the wav I used have the volume pretty low. I will test some different sounds each version, so the people who follow the project develop will have an idea of what will be the definitive.
More good news, I just tested that pygame support the mp3 (that library is amazing).

ciroip 2008-12-21 08:11
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the project procede but now the application timing is getting a bit critical. I 'compressed' every function in the 1sec gap between each refresh and the clock became less responsive each new version.
I probably need a new way to manage the events. By now I m 'working' the new 'No party' version (just to keep me a bit motivate, the plastic fakewood version begin to became a bit boring...
https://garage.maemo.org/frs/downloa...5084/fondo.png


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