Re: Maemo Community Council: Why didn't you vote?
 

(I fixed your link to March 09 Sprint above)

Yeah, that page is pretty cryptic to me too, I'm not sure why we should care about most of those tasks, and none of them look done, either. Well, except the election. So by the only metric that we have, it looks like the maemo.org team isn't doing so well.

(EDIT: The activity logs and the task lists don't seem to have anything to do with each other, either. Why are the team members working on things that have nothing to do with the tasks listed above? And if they are related, shouldn't they reference the task that they are related to?)

Also, Jaffa tried to plan the first sprint meeting of the new council, and we've already had two of the most important members of the, um, "paid side" of the team give "can't be there, but here's my report" responses.

So, yeah, I'm not sure what's going on, either.

Do you have something you want support for? Do you have topics you want representation on?

Re: Maemo Community Council: Why didn't you vote?
 

I don't have the time to respond in detail at the moment, but if you're interested in being involved in community issues you should subscribe to maemo-community, and if you're interested in seeing what the Council's up to, you should pay attention to Planet (more specifically, the council blog).

Re: Maemo Community Council: Why didn't you vote?
 

I guess I am looking for:

What the council is working on?

How can I give my input?

How can I get involved to help?

How can I request help? (what type of help can/should be requested)

Its just never really been clear to me. I understand the stated purpose, but I need a user manual???

Re: Maemo Community Council: Why didn't you vote?
 

Most of this discussion (as GeneralAntilles stated) can be found by subscribing to maemo-community. (Here are the archives.)

Tim

Re: Maemo Community Council: Why didn't you vote?
 

Thanks Tim, I appreciate the links, but I am asking for a little more.

So Council, can we work on a Maemo Council portal, or wiki, or some front end to all the workings of the Maemo Council. How do I get that on the agenda?

I just feel like I am asking some simple questions and their seems not to be any simple answers. If you guys feel my request is not needed I guess ignore me. I am just saying if you want to get people involved, I think a better job could be done. Perhaps I just have a misexpectations of the council?

Re: Maemo Community Council: Why didn't you vote?
 

Improvements to the council homepage are planned, and suggestions on what you'd like to see are welcome.

There's also been the suggestion of communicating council "business" more vigorously via Twitter (#m.occ) and on the current Sprint page's "daily reporting" section.

Sorry, I think we've answered any specific question accurately and simply. If you have other questions, how about formulating them into a list?

What request?

Get people involved in what? Plenty of people are involved in developing Mer, editing wiki pages, dealing with bugs, benefiting from the work of Niels and Jeremiah, downloading software, uploading software, and discussing on these fora.

When Nokia ask "do you want us to sponsor another summit, and where?", the elected council (and this is a representative democracy - not asking for feedback on everything) will steer and advise based on their opinions - and the opinions of anyone else offered.

You don't need our permission to do anything, and the role of the council as facilitators means you might not notice when we do things (which is fine - this isn't about glory, it's about getting things done).

It should be pretty clear what the council does (see my explanations above). It may not be everything you want the council to do, or you may have questions about its value, but I think questions of what we actually do have been answered.

Re: Maemo Community Council: Why didn't you vote?
 

Also, when the maemo-community list was created there were no plans for a talk.maemo.org. Now a possibility would be to move here the discussions held there.

Re: Maemo Community Council: Why didn't you vote?
 

We'd have to see, but, generally speaking, more of the involved people (paid—maemo.org, Nokians, Nemein—and otherwise) are on -community than itT. Relevant issues tend to get pushed to itT eventually, anyway.

Re: Maemo Community Council: Why didn't you vote?
 

A quick Google search turned up a script that claims to "scrape the archives of a MailMan list and convert to an RSS feed." Could that script or a similar one be implemented/adapted for Pipermail (Mailman edition), and if so, could a listing of recent threads from maemo-community be displayed in a sidebar on the talk.maemo.org main page? It might help the t.m.o main page become a one stop location for a quick overview of community discussion.

Re: Maemo Community Council: Why didn't you vote?
 

Yes! What sjgadsby said! I have said before that the mailing lists and the forums need to be brought closer together somehow.

Ideally, I think users should be able to make forums that they select from t.m.o act like mailing lists. That is, any new posts to that forum are e-mailed to "mailing list subscribers" of that forum, and those users can reply to threads by e-mail.

Then we could simply merge t.m.o and the mailing lists completely.

We can do it! We have the technology!