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X-Fade 2009-06-02 13:50

Re: Some hands on time with Nokia's Maemo 5 Development Device
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pelago (Post 292915)
3 rows on the keyboard is less than I was expecting. Based on my N810 (4 rows) I was hoping for more rows, not less, although I haven't tried this prototype device.

The total device is considerably smaller than the N810, hence the keyboard is too.

When you shrink the total area of a keyboard, you generally have 2 options:
  • Less keys
  • Shrink keys

Unless you have pencil shaped fingers, option 2 just isn't very comfortable :)

It was a lot easier to use this keyboard then the one on my n810. Better shaped keys and less pressure needed.

fms 2009-06-02 13:56

Re: Some hands on time with Nokia's Maemo 5 Development Device
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by X-Fade (Post 292930)
When you shrink the total area of a keyboard, you generally have 2 options: (1)Less keys (2)Shrink keys

The third one is to make the overlap between upper and lower device halves smaller to increase the available keyboard area.

benny1967 2009-06-02 14:40

Re: Some hands on time with Nokia's Maemo 5 Development Device
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bergie (Post 292905)
As we already heard in this thread, the screen size reduction isn't really that noticeable when you actually use the device.

... except, maybe, when you use the device as a portable media player, but then ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mara (Post 292925)
But, as I see this the Navigation use is no longer "marketed" as key feature. I can understand this since dedicated GPS units now sell so cheap that if you need a GPS navigation you likely buy a dedicated GPS unit for this anyway...

... maybe we'll have to buy a dedicated portable media player in addition to the dedicated GPS unit for that, too.

flareup 2009-06-02 15:00

Re: Some hands on time with Nokia's Maemo 5 Development Device
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 292935)
... except, maybe, when you use the device as a portable media player, but then ...
.

exactly.

Quote:

... maybe we'll have to buy a dedicated portable media player in addition to the dedicated GPS unit for that, too.
haha! and a spare phone for when the big fat one has run down the battery in other uses...

bergie 2009-06-02 15:01

Re: Some hands on time with Nokia's Maemo 5 Development Device
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 292916)
How many of those who did the hands-on with the proto are on record as favorably-biased toward the 3.5" screen?

On the screen size issue I'm quite indifferent. The reduction was unnoticeable enough that I heard it about here and didn't notice it while playing with the device itself.

However, if smaller screen would make the tablet more pocketable, I'd be all for it. Similar reasoning to why I think it would be great if it had a phone:
  • maemo device that fits into my pocket
  • maemo device that also functions as a phone

...means a maemo device would be the "universal communicator" that I always carry with me.

Texrat 2009-06-02 15:05

Re: Some hands on time with Nokia's Maemo 5 Development Device
 
I'm sticking with my opinion that the first ~4" screen without the N810's peripheral real estate will be a mind-blowing success.

I take that back: COULD be.

Mara 2009-06-02 15:27

Re: Some hands on time with Nokia's Maemo 5 Development Device
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 292935)
... except, maybe, when you use the device as a portable media player, but then ...



... maybe we'll have to buy a dedicated portable media player in addition to the dedicated GPS unit for that, too.

I think there is one key difference: The GPS you most likely use only in the car... so why not just leave it there all the time? The media player though... that you take with you everywhere, so there you have a point.

What I see that there should be two "device classes":
1) Pocketable with ~3.5" screen
2) "Cargopocketable/Purseable" device with ~5-6" screen.

The first device is the "take everywhere" device (including phone) that fits in pocket. The latter should work good as GPS navigator, video player and ebook reader? Likely better for serious web surfing too...

gerbick 2009-06-02 15:39

Re: Some hands on time with Nokia's Maemo 5 Development Device
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mara (Post 292950)
I think there is one key difference: The GPS you most likely use only in the car... so why not just leave it there all the time? The media player though... that you take with you everywhere, so there you have a point.

I'm trying my best to consolidate gadgets. When I go to my car now, it's:

Nokia N810
Garmin GPS
iPhone 3G
Sony PSP or Nintendo DSi (sometimes)

There's an overlap in features, but I'm tired of carrying so much to my car and charging so much while in the house. I wanted to get rid of two of these... the Nokia N810/Garmin GPS (originally the N810's GPS was to be the only one... yeah right).

lbt 2009-06-02 16:05

Re: Some hands on time with Nokia's Maemo 5 Development Device
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt (Post 292801)
Here's a bit of a weird question:

If I understand correctly the N900 is bezel free (hoorah). Were there any indications that the resistive input ended at the edges of the screen, or indications that it extended beyond the edges?

Heh - the 'confirm or deny' phrase springs to mind... the weekend just did not give us enough information to go beyond speculation. The prototype cases had a big plastic bezel on them that came up to the edge of the screen - short of sliding a screwdriver inside and levering it off (which I didn't do) I don't think there was any way of saying yes or no; and that pre-supposes that the plastic simply covered and didn't stand-in for a finished faceplate.

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Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt (Post 292801)
The pre uses off screen touchability for task selection. If this is the case with this device interesting things with touch-input could be accomplished.

If you were really interested then there may be clues in the SDK? I really wonder how you'd expose an API for something like that? I can think of a few approaches but it's quite a challenge.

I suppose it could be totally reserved for the task manager and not available to apps... but that's a bit odd too.

allnameswereout 2009-06-02 16:22

Re: Some hands on time with Nokia's Maemo 5 Development Device
 
I read someone used xterm, was the device used to emulate 80x24 terminal? I ask this because many ncurses applications won't work with anything less than that.

Were any (Mozilla-related) milestones achieved during the hackfest?


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