Re: A Message To Nokia, Peter, & Maemo Staff
 

There, now you did it.

Stating exactly what you said above. "We don't have the SW quality we want to have when starting to ship, so we are delaying". I think a statement like this (no, Peter@Maemo's post was more vague than what you said) probably would have killed 60% of the posts on talk.mameo.org over the last two or so weeks.

And I mean that: People do understand *when* you give them reasons why you do things the way you do.

Maemo is supposed to be an open platform - and for open platforms open communication is a need. You're doing a very good job about that, maybe "the rest of Nokia" have to understand that this is needed from other parts within the company, too.

Re: A Message To Nokia, Peter, & Maemo Staff
 

Which memory correction? Optifying happens completely on the builders, as the *packages* need to be changed.

Re: A Message To Nokia, Peter, & Maemo Staff
 

To be honest, I can never understand why people pre-order any electronic products (wii probably being the only exception). I mean it's not like it's a limited edition collectibles or something. No matter how advanced the N900 is (which it is not), it's going to be obsolete soon. What's the point of pre-ordering and then getting all upset about the delays? I will wait till it gets to a store, handle it a bit to see whether I like it or not, read some real reviews (not just from excited fanboys who hasn't used it in a real world situation) and then maybe, just maybe, I will buy it on sale.

Re: A Message To Nokia, Peter, & Maemo Staff
 

And of course the more secretive they are about the release date the less tolerant people will be i.e. if Nokia finds a critical bug this week that delays the N900 into 2010 then people will think they knew all along it would be delayed until then and they were just stringing them along.

A lack of openness destroys trust and undermines confidence. It's all very well to say the "normal" user won't be affected by this but without techies and early adopters there will be no "normal" users.

If Nokia wants people to pay cash for a platform we know is far from final (i.e. Maemo 6 and the device that goes with it is closer to where Nokia wants to be) then they need to court those users. Inviting bloggers etc to events and giving them free devices is one thing but you need unassociated people to buy the device and spread the word about it.

Re: A Message To Nokia, Peter, & Maemo Staff
 

Sorry, I was referring to the more constrained carriers- the US.

Tmo US as far as phone selection and marketing seems to suck compared to Europe (IMHO).

Re: A Message To Nokia, Peter, & Maemo Staff
 

That's maybe based on the fact, that Germany is a much smaller country than US and TMO needs to be the market-leader although the only carrier with inovations is O2.

The other ones just beating out crapped mobiles with brandings and contracts only cheap if all your friends using the same carrier.
Otherwise you pay the crap out of your bank account.

Wish they just copy the Austria market :D (it's totaly cheap)


I'm not sure if the US carriers will use the N900. It has built-in Skype and doesn't look like it will be branded.
Maybe a mangenta colored Maemo UI would be soooo nice :eek:

Re: A Message To Nokia, Peter, & Maemo Staff
 

There wasn't any profanity in the OP, he/she simply used asterisks (*).

The posting wasn't about making Nokia feel guilty, it was about lack of information. I'd have mentioned the faux pas about the N900 being "step 4 of 5" too.

And sure, a company can release whenever it wants. Unless of course, it realizes it plays in a marketplace where people have choices, and other companies seems to meet expectations quite well in terms of availability.

Re: A Message To Nokia, Peter, & Maemo Staff
 

This is the best article I've read which might explain the delay and slience from Nokia:

Which could be summarized as "Nokia knows that Symbian cannot cut it anymore given the competition and they know they only have one last shot given the n97 mess. So they are trying to reduce any negatives at launch"

http://www.businessweek.com/globalbi...n900_dela.html


"....but Nokia’s willingness to risk bad press and annoy customers underscores how crucial this product is to the company, which has been struggling to recapture momentum in smartphones lost to the likes of Apple (AAPL) and BlackBerry-maker Research In Motion (RIMM). The company blamed a shortfall in smartphone sales in part for its disappointing third quarter results announced Oct. 15."

Re: A Message To Nokia, Peter, & Maemo Staff
 

As Peter@Maemo wrote this is "software improvement" delay due to release of 300 units to the wild.

This is official Nokia position and I hope they will see it as *beneficial* for platform and with next model such test release will be earlier so we can avoid similar problems in 2010.

Note that issue of involving broader audience of developers and active users was raised on this forum several times in the past. I don't know if "300" was result of
similar discussions in Nokia but if I am right next iteration should be more formalized and will be taken into account when planning release dates.

I know Nokia's openness with N900 development was without precedence in history but I (again) hope that recent events will reinforce that trend.

Re: A Message To Nokia, Peter, & Maemo Staff
 

yes! Yes!! YES!!!