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Re: Why should I believe Nokia ? Why should I work for Nokia for free ? ... again

Actually, I don't have a myspace page, JayOnThaBeat. I also don't have Facebook. Or Twitter, for that matter. But I programmed in the Unix shell before there was a Linux, and I used Perl before there were shelves of books dedicated to it.

I notice that you have been thanked 508 times, but you have nothing to say that is relevant to the point. You quote me returning the foul language of Bratag, but you have nothing critical to say about Bratag.

You're not a troll, though. You are a core participant here, and nicely represent the mainstream contempt for the consumer that seems typical of Maemo types. As Nokia cannot share such contempt in the long run, I conclude that Nokia has little interest in consumers actually using this phone. That squares with its refusal to associate the phone with T-Mobile in the US, thus meaning that there will be no phone-based technical support in the US. And, based on my reading, I expect that Nokia will not take consumers seriously until (perhaps) Maemo 6. Very well, I will tune back in when Maemo 6 is released.

So, continue tapping away in your echo chamber. Meantime, I have decided on a Blackberry Storm2 with Verizon. It has all the functionality that I need, is relatively stable, is dedicated to business users without outstanding connectivity, has abundant useful apps for my purposes, has wireless capability (about time), and is very secure. It will not drive a TV screen, and it has a primitive OS compared with Maemo. But it also runs on the US's best carrier and is a world phone to boot. And, its OS is a hell of a lot better than Symbian.

But then RIM doesn't know anything about marketing its phones. Oh wait....

Re: Why should I believe Nokia ? Why should I work for Nokia for free ? ... again

srk052004, I must ask, you have posted on this forum a whole five times, three of them have been on this page alone and none of them have been constructive in the least, with much of it being crude and condescending.

I've noticed that posters such as yourself and the starter of this thread have come in and presented largely nothing in terms of convincing arguments, and seem here only to start fires and fan the flames.

If you do not like what you see here, and have some fundamental disagreement with the way things are going, then do one of two things:

1. If it is something that involves the community and is within its capacity to change, post a reasoned suggestion or constructive criticism or,
2. If it is something under the influence of Nokia and you can see the community has no pull on it, please refrain from posting at all

Re: Why should I believe Nokia ? Why should I work for Nokia for free ? ... again

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Originally Posted by srk052004 (Post 370558)

If it were, for example, the various applications that worked on Maemo 4 would already have been ported to Maemo 5.

would you even know where to go to check that statement of yours? - i mean... i can see all these ported applications. why can't you?

Re: Why should I believe Nokia ? Why should I work for Nokia for free ? ... again

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Originally Posted by marcinw (Post 370286)

At least 2 things:

1. treat N900 and Maemo a little bit more seriously. Device should have ALL functionality available in "closed" phones created with at least the same quality OR there be CLEAR info, when this functionality will be released (year, two ?). It would be excellent too, when they will have plans to make Maemo third main line too (but not in the most expensive devices only !).

[...].

The device is by far the best Nokia have! You could make a far better case saying Nokia should take Symbian a bit more serious.
Who cares about MMS? A radio app. would be nice, but S60 5th doesn't even have internet radio, and I know which one I prefer.

Re: Why should I believe Nokia ? Why should I work for Nokia for free ? ... again

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Originally Posted by srk052004 (Post 370582)

So, now you're an uber-programmer. (And who cares bout Perl even now :D )

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Originally Posted by srk052004 (Post 370582)

You're not a troll, though. You are a core participant here, and nicely represent the mainstream contempt for the consumer that seems typical of Maemo types. As Nokia cannot share such contempt in the long run, I conclude that Nokia has little interest in consumers actually using this phone. That squares with its refusal to associate the phone with T-Mobile in the US, thus meaning that there will be no phone-based technical support in the US. And, based on my reading, I expect that Nokia will not take consumers seriously until (perhaps) Maemo 6. Very well, I will tune back in when Maemo 6 is released.

So, now you're a psychologist (and a universe judge in your spare time) and a analyser.

/* skip the obvious troll part */

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Originally Posted by srk052004 (Post 370582)

But then RIM doesn't know anything about marketing its phones. Oh wait....

And now you're a marketing specialist.

All I can say is "so long and thanks for all the fish".

Re: Why should I believe Nokia ? Why should I work for Nokia for free ? ... again

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Originally Posted by maartenmk (Post 370839)

A radio app. would be nice, but S60 5th doesn't even have internet radio, and I know which one I prefer.

http://maemo.org/downloads/product/Maemo5/fmradio/

Re: Why should I believe Nokia ? Why should I work for Nokia for free ? ... again

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayOnThaBeat (Post 370142)

My e-penis is 1.5 meters long (for you wacky metric people out there ;))

Is there an app for that?

Re: Why should I believe Nokia ? Why should I work for Nokia for free ? ... again

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Originally Posted by mgoebel (Post 371076)

Is there an app for that?

Code:

#!/bin/sh

export LC_ALL=C

echo `uptime|grep days|sed 's/.*up \([0-9]*\) day.*/\1\/10+/'; cat /proc/cpuinfo|grep '^cpu MHz'|awk '{print $4"/30 +";}';free|grep '^Mem'|awk '{print $3"/1024/3+"}'; df -P -k -x nfs -x smbfs | grep -v '(1k|1024)-blocks' | awk '{if ($1 ~ "/dev/(cciss|scsi|sd)"){ s+= $2} s+= $2;} END {print s/1024/50"/15+70";}'`|bc|sed 's/\(.$\)/.\1cm/'

Re: Why should I believe Nokia ? Why should I work for Nokia for free ? ... again

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Originally Posted by SubCore (Post 371102)

Code:

#!/bin/sh

export LC_ALL=C

echo `uptime|grep days|sed 's/.*up \([0-9]*\) day.*/\1\/10+/'; cat /proc/cpuinfo|grep '^cpu MHz'|awk '{print $4"/30 +";}';free|grep '^Mem'|awk '{print $3"/1024/3+"}'; df -P -k -x nfs -x smbfs | grep -v '(1k|1024)-blocks' | awk '{if ($1 ~ "/dev/(cciss|scsi|sd)"){ s+= $2} s+= $2;} END {print s/1024/50"/15+70";}'`|bc|sed 's/\(.$\)/.\1cm/'

Damn... I have only 49.3cm :D

Re: Why should I believe Nokia ? Why should I work for Nokia for free ? ... again

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Originally Posted by srk052004 (Post 370582)

If you would stray out of this single topic, you would find quite a different view of the "typical Maemo type" I'm sure. Why there sure is a few "bad apples" in every community, judging the community by them is not an accurate meter imo.

My experience with the "typical Maemo type" is quite the reverse - open, helpful and willing to give up their own type to help someone else.

Note: This is not meant directly at you Jay - it's in general. No offence intended.

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Originally Posted by srk052004 (Post 370582)

That squares with its refusal to associate the phone with T-Mobile in the US, thus meaning that there will be no phone-based technical support in the US. And, based on my reading, I expect that Nokia will not take consumers seriously until (perhaps) Maemo 6. Very well, I will tune back in when Maemo 6 is released.

The refusal to "associate" it with T-Mobile in the USA might be because T-Mob had unreasonable demands (SIM lock and gimping the device? Who knows, I know I don't). After all, isn't Nokia "known" in the USA to not buy-in to what the other vendors does with the telcos over there?

I have no idea on phone-based technical support - but I'd assume it's available from Nokia Support in the country of purchase - I might be wrong as I've never used such a service.

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Originally Posted by srk052004 (Post 370582)

It has all the functionality that I need, is relatively stable, is dedicated to business users without outstanding connectivity, has abundant useful apps for my purposes, has wireless capability (about time), and is very secure. It will not drive a TV screen, and it has a primitive OS compared with Maemo. But it also runs on the US's best carrier and is a world phone to boot. And, its OS is a hell of a lot better than Symbian.

But then RIM doesn't know anything about marketing its phones. Oh wait....

Good you found the perfect phone for you! :-)

fwiw, the "US's best carrier" might not be compatible with the rest of the worlds standardized 3G network - and the choice between some USA customers and the better part of the rest of the world... Well, I think I can understand why they went with the rest of the world. :)