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aspidites 2010-01-12 19:07

Re: angry birds level number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 466607)
Except there's no straightforward way to install apps that are not in the repo.

"dpkg -i package_name" from the command line, or if "appinstaller" ever makes it out of extras-devel, you can just touch the deb file once downloaded to install.

How easy this would be to implement into the ovi store, I don't know, but I imagine the download link could redirect to a page asking for an IMEI to validate purchase (kind of like nokia does), then prompt to download the deb archive individually.

Not the most elegant solution, but better than say, having a separate repository for each application.

Rob1n 2010-01-12 19:09

Re: angry birds level number
 
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Originally Posted by aspidites (Post 466898)
How easy this would be to implement into the ovi store, I don't know, but I imagine the download link could redirect to a page asking for an IMEI to validate purchase (kind of like nokia does), then prompt to download the deb archive individually.

And then prompt to install rootsh, and then prompt to run it.... And then never find out about updates because there's no linked repository.

aniMAL_ 2010-01-12 19:22

Re: angry birds level number
 
Where are people getting it from?

I'm addicted to the game and will purchase it legitmately like I do with all my hardware / software. People keep saying it's in repositories, but I have Ovi, Devel, as well as the nokia one so I don't see where people are seeing it? even search doesn't find it?

Miika 2010-01-12 19:36

Re: angry birds level number
 
Apparently it was removed from Ovi Store by Nokia because of these problems. Too bad they didn't also remove it from the repository which would have made a lot more sense...

Hopefully they get these problems sorted out soon and Angry Birds back in the store.

Edit: Actually the package was also removed from the repository but the change just takes some time to propagate to all load balancing servers.

aniMAL_ 2010-01-12 19:38

Re: angry birds level number
 
Yeh that didn't make sense to me - Remove from the store where people can pay for it, but leave it in the repository where it can easily be grabbed? I don't think it's anywhere to obvious though unless I'm blind lol

Look forward to seeing it back on the store

That One Guy 2010-01-12 19:57

Re: angry birds level number
 
levelpack1 seems to have been removed from the repository as well. As of my cache update this morning it was there, but after apt-get update, it's no longer there.

Shame, too. It's a great game.

aspidites 2010-01-12 23:54

Re: angry birds level number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 466905)
And then prompt to install rootsh, and then prompt to run it.... And then never find out about updates because there's no linked repository.

Actually, you wouldn't find out about updates automatically. It may be a developer's wish to charge for updates. A possible (albiet ugly) solution would be to have the application itself check for a newer version of itself periodically (a la windows apps). In this way, the application not being in a repository becomes irrelevant.

Another solution:
Would it be possible to keep proprietary apps in the ovi store but have pre-install scripts that check an IMEI against a database of legit users (ones who have paid for an app) before allowing an install, aborting if they haven't paid?

fnordianslip 2010-01-13 00:00

Re: angry birds level number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aspidites (Post 467443)
have pre-install scripts that check an IMEI against a database of legit users (ones who have paid for an app) before allowing an install, aborting if they haven't paid?

Sounds like a good plan, unless the users have a text editor to modify the scripts with :)

attila77 2010-01-13 01:23

Re: angry birds level number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aspidites (Post 467443)
Actually, you wouldn't find out about updates automatically. It may be a developer's wish to charge for updates. A possible (albiet ugly) solution would be to have the application itself check for a newer version of itself periodically (a la windows apps). In this way, the application not being in a repository becomes irrelevant.

Repositories (and packaging + accompanying procedures) were born exactly because of the mess of the every-app-for-itself approach of early linux applications.

Quote:

Another solution:
Would it be possible to keep proprietary apps in the ovi store but have pre-install scripts that check an IMEI against a database of legit users (ones who have paid for an app) before allowing an install, aborting if they haven't paid?
There are no real solutions to DRM. If anything, DRM is the problem, not the solution. If you can't convince the users to pay for it because they should, the only end result (especially on open platforms) is an endless cat-and-mouse game which hurts most the very people who actually paid for their content/apps.

Laughing Man 2010-01-13 01:31

Re: angry birds level number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DeeGee (Post 466879)
No wonder DRM is coming to Maemo 6... Anyway the levelpack is still in the repository, just installed it. As soon as it comes back to Ovi store I'll buy it. At the moment it isn't nowhere to be seen at least in Finnish version of the store.

And the DRM would just be cracked. Then the DRM will be made anew (and possibly worse) and it would be cracked again. See where I'm going?

Though there should be some light DRM system, maybe one that matches it up to the IMEI or Ovi Store account and then verifies that they isn't a fleet of N900s using that same IMEI or Ovi Store account (it would get banned if so and they would no longer be able to get updates). And of course you can do an IMEI or Ovi Store account name change to move your licenses over to a new N900 or whatever.

Even that would be cracked eventually but that would be enough of a wrench to hopefully stop some people.


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