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Kajko 2011-06-10 02:39

Re: is Meego Dead for Nokia ?
 
Meego is a dead horse. Get over it.

jo21 2011-06-10 03:04

Re: is Meego Dead for Nokia ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kajko (Post 1026167)
Meego is a dead horse. Get over it.

WP7 is at much as dead. just released as unfinished product =) and not fixing any of the problems it have.

9000 2011-06-10 04:35

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Originally Posted by jo21 (Post 1026178)
WP7 is at much as dead. just released as unfinished product =) and not fixing any of the problems it have.

You're right, WP7 is really a dead-end such that only Nokia would appreciate it.

Microsoft has solid plan to release Windows 8 (not WP8) on ARM next year and applications natively run on Windows 8/ARM would not compatible with WP7's.

Though Microsoft didn't say Windows platform on ARM is meant to replaced Windows Phone platform, but the collision in market segment is so obvious. Given same hardware, say I would want to use the platform that can run full version of Microsoft Office rather than cripple Office like Document to Go, etc.

Too bad Microsoft proactive obsolete WP7 way before Nokia could make a phone with it. So much for a partnership. :p

danramos 2011-06-10 07:03

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http://pleco.org/heh/dead_horse.jpg

Rugoz 2011-06-10 19:17

Re: is Meego Dead for Nokia ?
 
This is what elop said about meego at the Uplinq conference:

We also had a second effort underway and that was an assessment of MeeGo. We had a lot of good work, a lot of innovation that had taken place around the MeeGo platform. But what we assessed was that we could not create a portfolio of devices, covering a full range of price points, fast enough with MeeGo, in order to respond to the competitive threats that we were facing. Because it is the case, in this marketplace, that a company like Nokia, certainly serving the high end, but also all the way down the price point ladder, in regions all around the world, that is the nature of our global position... While MeeGo helped us at the high end, we couldn't see it coming down fast enough, in order to help us solve all of our problems.

1337INT13H 2011-06-10 19:27

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UM I think not!

danramos 2011-06-10 22:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugoz (Post 1026683)
This is what elop said about meego at the Uplinq conference:

We also had a second effort underway and that was an assessment of MeeGo. We had a lot of good work, a lot of innovation that had taken place around the MeeGo platform. But what we assessed was that we could not create a portfolio of devices, covering a full range of price points, fast enough with MeeGo, in order to respond to the competitive threats that we were facing. Because it is the case, in this marketplace, that a company like Nokia, certainly serving the high end, but also all the way down the price point ladder, in regions all around the world, that is the nature of our global position... While MeeGo helped us at the high end, we couldn't see it coming down fast enough, in order to help us solve all of our problems.

Because... Windows Mobile 7 has proven itself of doing a spectacular job of meeting all those points? The more he opens his mouth, the more he demonstrates literally stupid thought processes and decisions. To quote Abraham Lincoln, "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

onethreealpha 2011-06-10 22:33

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Agree 100% with your comments Dan.
He's arguing the removal of Meego from their lpatforms because it can't serve all price points (and hardware spectrum) of the Nokia device base, but neither can WP7.
It certainly can't run on low end stuff, and sure as hell isn;t good enough to support the "top end" of town wrt devices.

If elop thinks Microsoft has an ecosystem in place because WP7 has Bing integrated and yo can pay to use x-box live on it, his concept of ecosystem is skewed indeed.
Methinks he uses the word to describe the idea of making profits in all areas related to mobile technology as opposed to an environment that meets the consumers wants and needs
then again, coming from a guy who used to work at a company that tried to describe bugs as product features, anything is possible....

danramos 2011-06-10 22:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by onethreealpha (Post 1026800)
Agree 100% with your comments Dan.
He's arguig the removal of Meego from their patforms because it can't serve all price points (and hardware spectrum) of the Nokia device base, but neither can WP7.
It certainly can't run on low end stuff, and sure as hell isn;t good enough to support the "top end" of town wrt devices.

If elop thinks Microsoft has an ecosystem in place because WP7 has Bing integrated and yo can pay to use x-box live on it, his concept of ecosystem is skewed indeed.
Methinks he uses the word to describe the idea of making profits in all areas related to mobile technology as opposed to an environment that meets the consumers wants and needs
then again, coming from a guy who used to work at a company that tried to describe bugs as product features, anything is possible....

In a battle of wits Elop is a pacifist out of necessity. He's like the kid in the school orchestra that chimes a triangle once per song... at the wrong time. Nokia... what have you done? Ugh.

Rugoz 2011-06-10 22:54

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Quote:

He's arguig the removal of Meego from their patforms because it can't serve all price points (and hardware spectrum) of the Nokia device base, but neither can WP7.
I guess both can, but the question is at what cost. With wp7 microsoft has made a phone-only OS, while meego should run on all kinds of devices. I have no problem with nokias current strategy as long as they keep developing meego for the high-end.


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