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abill_uk 2011-07-30 07:09

Re: The End Of Nokia
 
Just found this.......

http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/tag/mango/

The first Windows Phone with 7.5 Mango is the Toshiba IS12t, and this smartphone will come with awesome tiles, mobile version of Office, Xbox LIVE integration and so much more, to give you more of what it will feature a new video has been release.

abill_uk 2011-07-30 07:16

Re: The End Of Nokia
 
And if this is the case just where and what is Nokia up to ?.
Or is this something that was being developed pre Elop takover?.

ericsson 2011-07-30 09:37

Re: The End Of Nokia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 1060988)
And if this is the case just where and what is Nokia up to ?.
Or is this something that was being developed pre Elop takover?.

I think it is easier to stick to the truth. Nokia couldn't make Symbian or MeeGo competitive vs Android or iOS. Regarding Symbian that is all too obvious. Personally I like Symbian a lot and think it is just perfect, I don't mind clunkyness. But still today after 4-5 years of modernizing, it is not competitive against iOS and Android when the clunkyness-factor is taken into consideration. MeeGo is also too obvious, maybe in 4 years it will be OK. Harmattan (Maemo) I am not so sure. The N900 is no more clunky than my brand new Anna E6. The N9 UI looks nothing less than awesome, but the N9 is here no matter what happens to plan A.

Nokia saw no other alternative than going WP or Android. They chose WP because that was a better deal than Android. We will never know all the details, but MS surely has loads of money, and WP will always be "higher end" than Android. MS will keep on hammering until WP is the best OS overall. Then there is S40. Going WP allows Nokia to steam ahead with S40 and the S40 ecosystem (Ovi). This is all Nokia, and it is steaming ahead right now, growing like no other ecosystems. Android would eat into that as well.

danramos 2011-07-30 09:43

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http://blog.ovi.com/wp-content/uploa...promo-2-v2.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ro3vdiFMyt...llmer-Elop.png

abill_uk 2011-07-30 10:05

Re: The End Of Nokia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ericsson (Post 1061028)
I think it is easier to stick to the truth. Nokia couldn't make Symbian or MeeGo competitive vs Android or iOS. Regarding Symbian that is all too obvious. Personally I like Symbian a lot and think it is just perfect, I don't mind clunkyness. But still today after 4-5 years of modernizing, it is not competitive against iOS and Android when the clunkyness-factor is taken into consideration. MeeGo is also too obvious, maybe in 4 years it will be OK. Harmattan (Maemo) I am not so sure. The N900 is no more clunky than my brand new Anna E6. The N9 UI looks nothing less than awesome, but the N9 is here no matter what happens to plan A.

Nokia saw no other alternative than going WP or Android. They chose WP because that was a better deal than Android. We will never know all the details, but MS surely has loads of money, and WP will always be "higher end" than Android. MS will keep on hammering until WP is the best OS overall. Then there is S40. Going WP allows Nokia to steam ahead with S40 and the S40 ecosystem (Ovi). This is all Nokia, and it is steaming ahead right now, growing like no other ecosystems. Android would eat into that as well.

Have to agree with you there and also i feel the same as you in that MS will now push WP untill as you said and when you can run anything within it and this i think is the way they will go, popularity will rise.....

The N9 UI does look comfortable i have to admit but i will wait and see all the reviews when it has been out a while before committing myself, maybe as Nokia have stated there will be no support forthcoming and this i do not think will happen IF it takes off anything like i think it will..... BUT what will Elop do if and when this situation arises because no way will he want the popularity on anything but WP ! so there might be a problem !.

Radu 2011-07-30 21:33

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I don't think anyone was upset about Nokia releasing WP phones. The problem is, Nokia gave up its OSes (especially Symbian, which had a HUGE worldwide market).
A smart CEO would have said something like: Starting sometime next year, we are going to release some WP phones. We will also improve Symbian and Meego.

mikecomputing 2011-07-30 22:50

Re: The End Of Nokia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 1060986)
Just found this.......

http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/tag/mango/

The first Windows Phone with 7.5 Mango is the Toshiba IS12t, and this smartphone will come with awesome tiles, mobile version of Office, Xbox LIVE integration and so much more, to give you more of what it will feature a new video has been release.

This forum is about Maemo/Meego and open source but it looks more like a marketplace for Android and WP lately :mad:

gerbick 2011-07-30 22:59

Re: The End Of Nokia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1061309)
This forum is about Maemo/Meego and open source but it looks more like a marketplace for Android and WP lately

Elop/Nokia chose WP7.

NITDroid exists on the N900.

Not quite sure what you're complaining about... both relate to Nokia and invariably will receive support after Maemo/MeeGo is truly dumped by Nokia.

marxian 2011-07-30 23:07

Re: The End Of Nokia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1061309)
This forum is about Maemo/Meego and open source but it looks more like a marketplace for Android and WP lately :mad:

Blahblah used to be InternetTabletTalk blahblah. Just thought I'd say it, so the usual suspects don't have to. :D

gerbick 2011-07-30 23:08

Re: The End Of Nokia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marxian (Post 1061315)
Blahblah used to be InternetTabletTalk blahblah. Just thought I'd say it, so the usual suspects don't have to.

You took my follow up post, almost verbatim.

Damn you.


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