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abustany 2011-10-23 16:29

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here
 
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Originally Posted by pirtti (Post 1112366)
Bluetooth issue / difference between synced and typed in contacts?

I'm usign car's integrated bluetooth thta can browse call logs (missed, placed, answered) and contact book via car console. It almost works which is already good news as with N900 this never worked. But then to the "almost" part... for some reason in contact book I (car) cannot see any synced contacts (whether MfE or BTn makes no difference) however all contacts thta I've typed in via the påhone UI work ok. I also tryed to copy some of the synced numbers to SIM bu thta didn't help either. Any idea what migh cause this? What is different in those contacts thta are created using tha phone?

Ps sorry about typos, blaim sapple on screen keyboard. Too hard to edit.

For some reason the bluetooth daemon filters out MFE contacts. We had a guy complaining internally too, as far as I know it's not fixed yet :-/ I'll try to push for it again on Monday.

pirtti 2011-10-23 17:42

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here
 
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Originally Posted by abustany (Post 1112404)
For some reason the bluetooth daemon filters out MFE contacts. We had a guy complaining internally too, as far as I know it's not fixed yet :-/ I'll try to push for it again on Monday.

Its not just MfE but also all old contacts that I transferred via bluetooth from N900 hence I presume all that have been created via synchronization. Pretty annoying...


P.S. With these couple of bugs still by best phone ever and I'm now comparing how they've felt at the time of the release. 9210 gets closest because it was sort of revolutionary at the time of release but it's still lagging far behind. This is much better to me than iPhone at the time of it's release. Pity that the ecosystem is sort of dead :(

cincibluer6 2011-10-23 17:58

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@abustany
Don't have an N9 (yet) but just wanted to say thanks for all the info. I've learned so much from just this thread that I can't wait to get an N9. Thanks for all the work.

mooglez 2011-10-24 12:19

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here
 
feature request: ability to store public key under the contact profile

abustany 2011-10-24 12:34

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here
 
use the "notes" field :)

abustany 2011-10-24 12:38

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pirtti (Post 1112447)
Its not just MfE but also all old contacts that I transferred via bluetooth from N900 hence I presume all that have been created via synchronization. Pretty annoying...


P.S. With these couple of bugs still by best phone ever and I'm now comparing how they've felt at the time of the release. 9210 gets closest because it was sort of revolutionary at the time of release but it's still lagging far behind. This is much better to me than iPhone at the time of it's release. Pity that the ecosystem is sort of dead :(

So, I checked what the status for the bug you mentioned, it seems to be because some services like MFE or Facebook don't allow sharing the contacts to third parties (yes, you don't have the right to share *your* contacts with yourself, that's smart). So I guess that for this reason the bluetooth daemon filters on "local" contacts only, I still don't understand why that would exclude contacts synced from bluetooth (which as far as I know are seen as local contacts)...
Anyway, it seems that the issue is being worked on, I can't promise anything regarding a fix since there is no solution yet, and it's not my team. Furthermore, I'm not totally sure what my NDA allows me to tell :)

About the ecosystem, you'll surely never reach the level of iOS or Android, I'm personally in this category of users that don't need millions of apps, but I can understand it's a blocker for some people.

pirtti 2011-10-24 12:54

Re: N9/N950 Contacts/IM - Get help & give feedback here
 
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Originally Posted by abustany (Post 1112825)
So, I checked what the status for the bug you mentioned, it seems to be because some services like MFE or Facebook don't allow sharing the contacts to third parties (yes, you don't have the right to share *your* contacts with yourself, that's smart). So I guess that for this reason the bluetooth daemon filters on "local" contacts only, I still don't understand why that would exclude contacts synced from bluetooth (which as far as I know are seen as local contacts)...
Anyway, it seems that the issue is being worked on, I can't promise anything regarding a fix since there is no solution yet, and it's not my team. Furthermore, I'm not totally sure what my NDA allows me to tell :)

About the ecosystem, you'll surely never reach the level of iOS or Android, I'm personally in this category of users that don't need millions of apps, but I can understand it's a blocker for some people.

Well big thanks for your replies so far :) Frankly, the system is f*ck*d if it doesn't allow me to share my contacts with my car. Other phones let me do this so I'd think there is a way around the licenses. Maybe it's just matter of definition of 3rd party. Using bluetooth is not really 3rd party to me, not as such and automatically anyway.
But I respect your honesty. And you should respect your NDA :)
I'd be happy with some "hack" that marks all contacts as local... hint ;)

And what comes to ecosystem, I made a conscious decision to take this into use so I'm ok('ish) too :) But I must admit there are couple of apps I'd just love to see and it seems unlikely we'll see those, at least not all. My shortlist would be: Kindle, Zinio, Evernote.

mooglez 2011-10-24 12:54

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Originally Posted by abustany (Post 1112822)
use the "notes" field :)

that's something that i thought of, and are going to use at the moment, but i am already using it for door lock codes for some of my contacts :)

a new field "public key" and the ability to either type it in, paste it in or read it from a file would be great.

a follow up for this would then be the ability to use the above mentioned public key in the various integrated communication methods, but this could be left for 3rd party developers :p

Helmuth 2011-10-24 13:28

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Originally Posted by mooglez (Post 1112832)
that's something that i thought of, and are going to use at the moment, but i am already using it for door lock codes for some of my contacts :)

I'm not sure, but perhaps a encrypted password storage application would be a better place for such kind of information? :)

mooglez 2011-10-24 13:47

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Originally Posted by Helmuth (Post 1112842)
I'm not sure, but perhaps a encrypted password storage application would be a better place for such kind of information? :)

public key is public, there is no need to hide it, and it should be assigned to the correct person (contact) for easy management

private key, that is what you want to keep in the password storage application or encrypted container etc.


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