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lavo 2012-02-01 02:14
Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles
 
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Originally Posted by SamGan (Post 1158677)
WP doesn't allow manufacturers to put their own UI layer like Android. Each WP phone works and feels the same as any other. In terms of hardware Nokia is pretty much constrained by the OS - eg, no NFC support, no micro-SD support, no multicore support, max internal storage is 16GB, no divx/xvid video support, etc.

But the greatest impediment to WP is the name Windows Phone itself. Nobody wants Windows on their phones as it is associated with a bloated, buggy, malware infested OS and a monopolistic Microsoft. Of course they are different but the name and automatic association rankles.

MS will lead Nokia to an early grave, no doubt about that.
Spot on, although the iPhone still doesn't have NFC or micro SD support (and its sales haven't been damaged because of it ;) ).

I think it was the Windows moniker that was the big killer. No one wants to be associated with it. Let's face it, Windows is not cool. I thought Microsoft would have realised that after the big success Xbox is. They should have created an all new name for it, because its clearly not a business phone (to leverage off the Windows desktop). No Skype yet?? What are they doing??

SamGan 2012-02-01 02:15
Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles
 
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Originally Posted by ibrakalifa (Post 1158699)
i dont care about nokia things, maemo and this community(exspecially) and all people around the world deserved better, i just dont get enough when nokia sold N9 with so overpriced one, its hardware and the chipset is two years old behind the competitor, come on nokia, give maemo to others that listening to their customers, and here we go, i give you all some proof


long live maemo, we love you, nokia is just cheater, N9 should be a monster and nice comeback if nokia give it newest hardware

i love my N900, its still the best one(for me)
You don't get it. Elop never intended for N9 to succeed, hence the stiff pricing.

SamGan 2012-02-01 02:21
Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles
 
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Originally Posted by lavo (Post 1158703)
Spot on, although the iPhone still doesn't have NFC or micro SD support (and its sales haven't been damaged because of it ;) ).
Yes but iphone is in a class of its own with cult-like status among its fans. WP7 was wrong to copy iphone's negatives like no mass storage mode, tied to Zune for file transfer and no micro-SD card support while it doesn't have the iconic status of Apple. Incidentally a BBC report says researchers have found that Apple products excite the same area of the brain in Apple fans as religious images in the faithful.

ibrakalifa 2012-02-01 02:21
Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles
 
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Originally Posted by SamGan (Post 1158704)
You don't get it. Elop never intended for N9 to succeed, hence the stiff pricing.
good company is listening to their customer, good company is make their customer satisfied with their product and always give them the best one, why nokia never reach that point, :confused:

android developer says maemo is really powerfull OS, and nokia abandon this one just for WP?:mad:

i see no reason, i see no hope, nokia began sinking without a trace, i hope someday another company bring us back maemo with more elegant style, :rolleyes:

rcolistete 2012-02-01 02:29
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Originally Posted by Chuck Norris (Post 1158643)
@Rugoz Galaxy note is new, with innovative features and size. That's where samsung innovation can be found. It's nokia 6 years ago.
Sorry, my opinion : Android is... boring, very boring, even running on a big tablet (Asus Transformer TF-101). Maemo 5 is a lot better, it deserved more hardware variants.

rcolistete 2012-02-01 02:36
Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles
 
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Originally Posted by Chuck Norris (Post 1158643)
@Rugoz Galaxy note is new, with innovative features and size. That's where samsung innovation can be found. It's nokia 6 years ago.
Sorry again for my opinion : Android is a joke. The media allows and praises an OS with so many missing features in 2012 : no real multitasking, no screenshot (before Android 4), no dependencies (oh, it is fine to have 4 Python's installed, which one independent and without common modules...), no privacy (you have to sell your soul to Google), etc.

Ok, Android is better than Windows Phone (well, at least), it is more open than iOS. That's all.

Tablets with Android/iOS are a waste of hardware.

patlak 2012-02-01 03:04
Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ibrakalifa (Post 1158699)
i dont care about nokia things, maemo and this community(exspecially) and all people around the world deserved better, i just dont get enough when nokia sold N9 with so overpriced one, its hardware and the chipset is two years old behind the competitor, come on nokia, give maemo to others that listening to their customers, and here we go, i give you all some proof

http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_b...on%29-4037.php

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n9-3398.php

LOL, and nokia sold it almost same with sgs2 that had newest hardware, what a shame

long live maemo, we love you, nokia is just cheater, N9 should be a monster and nice comeback if nokia give it newest hardware

i love my N900, its still the best one(for me)
Are you aware that the SoC is not the only/main component driving price?

Kangal 2012-02-01 03:17
Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SamGan (Post 1158677)
WP doesn't allow manufacturers to put their own UI layer like Android. Each WP phone works and feels the same as any other. In terms of hardware Nokia is pretty much constrained by the OS - eg, no NFC support, no micro-SD support, no multicore support, max internal storage is 16GB, no divx/xvid video support, etc.

But the greatest impediment to WP is the name Windows Phone itself. Nobody wants Windows on their phones as it is associated with a bloated, buggy, malware infested OS and a monopolistic Microsoft. Of course they are different but the name and automatic association rankles.

MS will lead Nokia to an early grave, no doubt about that.
Sorry you're wrong. In a press release, Steve said Nokia has the royalty of changing Windows Phone's looks and features...something no other OEM is allowed to do.

Zoxir 2012-02-01 03:22
Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles
 
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Originally Posted by Kangal (Post 1158722)
Sorry you're wrong. In a press release, Steve said Nokia has the royalty of changing Windows Phone's looks and features...something no other OEM is allowed to do.
People still believe Nokia can change stuff on WP? Guys that was just a lie so Elop could justify choosing the failed OS of his ex employer. If you still have doubts check the Lumias only thing made in Finland on them is Angry birds.

SamGan 2012-02-01 03:54
Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles
 
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Originally Posted by Kangal (Post 1158722)
Sorry you're wrong. In a press release, Steve said Nokia has the royalty of changing Windows Phone's looks and features...something no other OEM is allowed to do.
I doubt it. If MS treats Nokia differently from other WP manufacturers they will stop making WP phones as the playing field is no longer level. Having only one manufacturer and limited choices for users does not tie in with MS's dream of world domination.


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