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w00t 2014-08-27 11:04

Re: Discussing JollaOy strategy
 
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Originally Posted by fk_lx (Post 1436965)
Ah "jerk", so now with lack of arguments you insult me, yes? Please control your emotions. Jolla made aware choice to use piratepad, they should know how it works.

If I see a spade, I call it a spade. If you think that vandalizing other people's work is socially acceptable behaviour just because it passes the terms of service, then yes, you are a jerk.

fk_lx 2014-08-27 11:08

Re: Discussing JollaOy strategy
 
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Originally Posted by w00t (Post 1436967)
If I see a spade, I call it a spade. If you think that vandalizing other people's work is socially acceptable behaviour just because it passes the terms of service, then yes, you are a jerk.

What work was vandalised? All what was written remained in Piratepad history, to be restored at any time. Vandalising means destroying something, that you need to do recreate from beginning. If you can restore sth with one click then it's not vandalising.

w00t 2014-08-27 11:13

Re: Discussing JollaOy strategy
 
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Originally Posted by fk_lx (Post 1436969)
What work was vandalised? All what was written remained in Piratepad history, to be restored at any time. Vandalising means destroying something, that you need to do recreate from beginning. If you can restore sth with one click then it's not vanadlising.

The fact that you need to stoop to semantic games to try and justify your actions is ridiculous, and speaks volumes about you as a person.

Just leaving these here:

Vandalism:
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Originally Posted by http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vandalism
willful or malicious destruction or defacement of public or private property

Defacement:
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Originally Posted by http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/defacement
to ruin the surface of (something) especially with writing or pictures

Which is literally what you did. You took what was there and wrote all over it. The definition has nothing to do with whether it can be fixed or not (all vandalism can, of course).

Morpog 2014-08-27 11:18

Re: Discussing JollaOy strategy
 
http://i.imgur.com/4w5fkOL.jpg

fk_lx 2014-08-27 11:24

Re: Discussing JollaOy strategy
 
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Originally Posted by w00t (Post 1436970)
The fact that you need to stoop to semantic games to try and justify your actions is ridiculous, and speaks volumes about you as a person

I would say that your actions are ridicolous. You cleverly left topic of the witch-hunt IRC meeting and not respecting rules there by Jolla, to speak about topic that was proposed by me (mediation). You on purpose omit those topics uncomfortable for Jolla and switch to calling me "jerk", accusing me of "vandalism" etc. That speaks volumes about you as a person (citing your sentence).

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Originally Posted by w00t (Post 1436970)
Just leaving these here:

Vandalism:
Defacement:

Which is literally what you did. You took what was there and wrote all over it. The definition has nothing to do with whether it can be fixed or not (all vandalism can, of course).

Well if you vandalise something, then it has it's cost and restoration to previous state requires money. At Piratepad it's a matter o few seconds. Btw. the purpose of Piratepad is to edit documents, when on some of the previous ones I've added my comments, then some people (Iekku) where trying to "vandalise" them (in your terminology), by removing it and Mr Munk wrote about edit wars on Sailfish-devel at that time. But then it was completely ok and you haven't protested that someone's comments are "vandalised" (in your terminology).

Now I see w00t that you have double standards, different for me and different for Jolla, its employees and fans.

m4r0v3r 2014-08-27 11:45

Re: Discussing JollaOy strategy
 
oh bollocks not this **** again...

On the whole Jolla strat, we'll see. I've seen in my phone for repair today, back to my trusty N900.

w00t 2014-08-27 11:48

Re: Discussing JollaOy strategy
 
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Originally Posted by fk_lx (Post 1436973)
I would say that your actions are ridicolous. You cleverly left topic of the witch-hunt IRC meeting and not respecting rules there by Jolla, to speak about topic that was proposed by me (mediation). You on purpose omit those topics uncomfortable for Jolla and switch to calling me "jerk", accusing me of "vandalism" etc.

There's really nothing to talk about, there. I already said what I have to say: that you can't have a *discussion* at a *meeting* when there's only one side there to discuss with. You disagree, okay, but from what I've seen you're in the minority.

Shall we just go around in circles there endlessly? I've got all day, so let's talk about whatever you like :)

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Originally Posted by fk_lx (Post 1436973)
That speaks volumes about you as a person.

I would ask that you come up with something more imaginative in this conversation than just repeating everything I say back at me, though :)

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Originally Posted by fk_lx (Post 1436973)
Well if you vandalise something, then it has it's cost and restoration to previous requires money.

[citation needed]

That's complete bollocks, and also a great continuation of the same semantic games I complained about already :).

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Originally Posted by fk_lx (Post 1436973)
the purpose of Piratepad is to edit documents, when on some of the previous one's I've added my comments, then some people (Iekku) where trying to "vandalise" them (in your terminology), by removing it

Because I have nothing better to do right now, I went and looked them up: http://piratepad.net/ep/pad/view/sai...lines/rev.1857

Looks like they were removed because they were the same type of unhelpful, annoying garbage as you replaced another page with.

w00t 2014-08-27 11:49

Re: Discussing JollaOy strategy
 
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Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 1436974)
On the whole Jolla strat, we'll see. I've seen in my phone for repair today, back to my trusty N900.

No serious repair, I hope?

m4r0v3r 2014-08-27 12:14

Re: Discussing JollaOy strategy
 
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Originally Posted by w00t (Post 1436976)
No serious repair, I hope?

the battery issue and the sim issue

w00t 2014-08-27 12:19

Re: Discussing JollaOy strategy
 
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Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 1436978)
the battery issue and the sim issue

Best of luck to you. I've been lucky with my Jolla, fingers crossed it stays that way :)


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