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gerbick 2017-02-03 16:06

Re: What's the best Handheld gnu/linux machine for 2017?
 
Fragmentation isn't a problem? Ok.

juiceme 2017-02-03 16:21

Re: What's the best Handheld gnu/linux machine for 2017?
 
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Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1522782)
And therein lies the problem. As long as the main killer of OSS will remain to be seen by the juicemes of this world as a good thing, OSS will never prevail.

OSSers of the world, unite! :D

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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1522784)
Fragmentation isn't a problem? Ok.

No, fragmentation is an imaginary problem. It is called choice and it is not a problem, it is a solution.
I stand by what I said, t is a richness to be tapped. The minor problem of fragmented user base is a lesser evil that can be tolerated for the greater good.

railroadmaster 2017-02-03 19:21

Re: What's the best Handheld gnu/linux machine for 2017?
 
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Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1522771)
But that'd in effect mean that RPM would dominate over DEB, right?
What about all the people who like the admittedly superior debian packeting format, hmm?
Of course to solve that RedHat could change over to using DEBs

RPM is the superior format. Deb should die out already. Redhat Supremacy!
Also everything is moving to Snap or Flatpaks, distributions should include both.

peterleinchen 2017-02-03 20:57

Re: What's the best Handheld gnu/linux machine for 2017?
 
pouring some oil:
why not switch to MSI as the one and only 'package' format (works for some kind of OS pretty well.;))

--
not really serious

pichlo 2017-02-03 22:17

Re: What's the best Handheld gnu/linux machine for 2017?
 
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Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1522795)
pouring some oil

In the fire or on troubled water? ;)

pichlo 2017-02-03 23:37

Re: What's the best Handheld gnu/linux machine for 2017?
 
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Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1522785)
No, fragmentation is an imaginary problem. It is called choice and it is not a problem, it is a solution.

I spent the past two hours thinking why does that sound familiar. And then it hit me. The BBC was interviewing some big shot from the new US establishment earlier this week. The name is not important. When asked about the 11,000 gun-related crimes last year, he argued strongly that, "Guns are an imaginary problem. It is called freedom and it is not a problem, it is a solution."

fw190 2017-02-04 08:22

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Guns don't kill people. It's just a piece of metal or composite with moving parts. Period.

Someone has to put a bullet inside and pull the trigger.

Guns allow people to do he things they can do with hands, sticks, knifes on a longer distance and a bigger scale. That is the difference. But as with sticks, stones and knifes they are just objects lying here or there. Without the interaction of a human they are harmless.

Object aren't problems. The operator CAN be a problem.

Banning legal guns doesn't solve killing as the bad guys in general don't use legal guns. The good guys will be left with sticks and stones whereas the bad guys will still import their "thunder sticks".

kinggo 2017-02-04 09:00

Re: What's the best Handheld gnu/linux machine for 2017?
 
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Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1522785)
No, fragmentation is an imaginary problem. It is called choice and it is not a problem, it is a solution.

only if you have infinite amount of people who work on that so that you can replace those who split with new ones that will continue with the pace of development on original...something. And since this is never the case, endless forking is wasted effort. For having, usually, just some minor difference which is often irrelevant to the end user.
And endless choice of more or less the same app/OS/TV/phone/whatever is not a choice at all, it is confusion with product compromised one way or the other at the end.
Whic someone will fork just because one thinks that he knows better. :rolleyes:

meego_leenooks1 2017-02-04 09:27

Re: What's the best Handheld gnu/linux machine for 2017?
 
FYI guys from the Replicant project (opensource Android implementation) just released a version with the basic GTA04 support (motherboard used in neo900).

nthn 2017-02-04 10:11

Re: What's the best Handheld gnu/linux machine for 2017?
 
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Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1522785)
No, fragmentation is an imaginary problem. It is called choice and it is not a problem, it is a solution.

In 99% of cases, it's a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. Solutionism at its finest!


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