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MicroChip123 2008-06-25 16:07

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
i was tidying up the n800 removing software that i was never going to use like the maping stuff then i came to gizmo and i just cant get rid of the thing.

does any one know how to remove gizmo?

supergadgetman 2008-06-25 16:29

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lm2 (Post 195652)
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...210#post195210

UPDATE: Be forewarned. It seems that if you use PenguinBait's install-tools deb to clone diablo to sd this rotation support will be borked. Someone smarter than me will have to tell you whether and when you'll be able to have both at the same time...

This is great. So does this mean I dont have to update my kernel in diablo. Can I just go right to steps 4 and 5 then install the rotate plugin??
Thanks for clarifying...

Wes Doobner 2008-06-25 16:42

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
OK, I'm not really happy with this "upgrade".

FWIW, I also cannot install Rhapsody, but the only reason I was trying to install was in order to remove and get rid of the freaking Rhapsody icon in my programs list.

Here's a couple other gripes:

- browser seems MUCH SLOWER to me now. It doesn't seem to be cacheing anything, it has to reload pages when I hit the "back" button. Very annoying, it really slows down web browsing.the old one didn't do this.

- broswer randomly crashes for some reason, it just closes out of the blue. Didn't do that to me before.

- FM Radio - hello!? Can't listen through the external speakers anymore? Is this a bad joke? Can anyone else confirm this issue, please? (clarification: when you put the headphones in, to use as an antenna, the sound will not come out of the external speakers. The sound does come out of the external speakers when you don't have the headphones in, but it's just static, of course.)

Other stuff - Modest didn't work for me on Yahoo! POP when it was a beta, and still doesn't. It retrieves mail fine, but you can't send mail. Seems like a "small" problem, not being able to send or reply to email. LOL

Not a big issue, but volume control in the default media player acts different - it doesn't adjust volume immediately, it waits until you release the slider and then adjusts. Weird. Like I said, not a big problem, but is definitely not an improvement, either.

I like the idea of not having to reflash for upgrades. Otherwise, there rerally doesn't seem to be much advantage to upgrading and seems some stuff, for me anyway, is broken or degraded to the point where, dare I say - I'm going back to chinook.

lma 2008-06-25 17:03

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mytimes (Post 195655)
Flashing initfs.jff2 ( from diablo ) fails with error

The Diablo initfs is now 4MB so won't fit in a Chinook initfs partition. I think you'll probably have to flash the entire fiasco image.

Also, make sure your battery is fully charged - I've seen the device reject flashing (seen as failed writes on the PC side) when the battery was <50% full even with the charger plugged in.

lma 2008-06-25 17:09

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wes Doobner (Post 195675)
- FM Radio - hello!? Can't listen through the external speakers anymore? Is this a bad joke? Can anyone else confirm this issue, please?

Nope, works fine here... You did click the little radio icon (which then changes to headphones), right?

Wes Doobner 2008-06-25 17:12

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lma (Post 195690)
Nope, works fine here... You did click the little radio icon (which then changes to headphones), right?

Uh, yeah I DO know how to use the FM radio app! Been using it for quite some time now. LOL

Arrrrrrrrggggh! Reboot fixed this issue. Damnit. Why is it always the simplest thing...

mytimes 2008-06-25 17:12

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
Thank you very much ! Ima .
btw the battery was fully charged when I tried to flash initfs.jffs2 .

Can you gimme the procedure to flash the entire fiasco image ?
And where can I download fiasco image ?

Thank you once again.

mytimes 2008-06-25 17:13

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lma (Post 195688)
The Diablo initfs is now 4MB so won't fit in a Chinook initfs partition. I think you'll probably have to flash the entire fiasco image.

Also, make sure your battery is fully charged - I've seen the device reject flashing (seen as failed writes on the PC side) when the battery was <50% full even with the charger plugged in.

Thank you very much ! Ima .
btw the battery was fully charged when I tried to flash initfs.jffs2 .

Can you gimme the procedure to flash the entire fiasco image ?
And where can I download fiasco image ?

Thank you once again.
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Underscore 2008-06-25 17:17

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wes Doobner (Post 195675)
- browser seems MUCH SLOWER to me now. It doesn't seem to be cacheing anything, it has to reload pages when I hit the "back" button. Very annoying, it really slows down web browsing.the old one didn't do this.

- broswer randomly crashes for some reason, it just closes out of the blue. Didn't do that to me before.

Ok, I've only been running Diablo for about half an hour....the browser's the only thing I've really checked out. I watched a youtube video to see how things were running, and the page flash video loaded up almost instantly! The video was really smooth as well. Then, I tried something from megavideo. On chinook, Megavideo was like watching a slideshow...but this ran just as smooth a youtube! Wow, this is so awesome! But, then again, this is a clean reflash, so no extra ram/processor hogging apps installed. One thing, though, the ITT homepage was rendered a bit weird, but looks perfect on chinook.

Edit- application manager is much more responsive.

lm2 2008-06-25 17:18

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by supergadgetman (Post 195670)
So does this mean I dont have to update my kernel in diablo. Can I just go right to steps 4 and 5 then install the rotate plugin??
Thanks for clarifying...

After a new flash to diablo, you'll have to update your kernel. But you won't have to update it again after you use PB's diablo-friendly install-tools deb to clone diablo to sd. But you will have to reinstall xomap, xrandr, and the automatic install, as the install-tools deb seems to remove these. See here for more.

lma 2008-06-25 17:19

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mytimes (Post 195693)
Can you gimme the procedure to flash the entire fiasco image ?
And where can I download fiasco image ?

See http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HOWT...ImageWithLinux. You probably already have the FIASCO image, it's the big file called RX-[34]44_DIABLO_4.2008.23-14_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin (if not, the above link also tells you where to get it).

Scythe 2008-06-25 17:32

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
I had no problem flashing the device, and it runs much, much, much faster. Browsing, snappiness, and overall video playback is much quicker.

It seems most of the problems are occurring when people are restoring to their originating configuration. Also, most of the people with problems seem to be using apps from the old chinook rep's.

mytimes 2008-06-25 17:32

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
Thank you very much ,
Yes I have the "RX-34_DIABLO_4.2008.23-14_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin"
I tried the following command
./flasher-3.0 -F RX-34_DIABLO_4.2008.23-14_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -f -R
... and I still have the same error , below is full log.

-------------- error log --------------------
root@mmi-desktop:/media/25thJune2008# ./flasher-3.0 -F RX-34_DIABLO_4.2008.23-14_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -f -R
flasher v0.8.7 (Oct 17 2006)

SW version in image: RX-34_DIABLO_4.2008.23-14_PR_MR0
Image 'kernel', size 1536512 bytes
Version 2.6.21-200823maemo3
Image 'initfs', size 2286848 bytes
Version 0.95.16-200823maemo2
Image 'rootfs', size 137756672 bytes
Version RX-34+RX-44+RX-48_DIABLO_4.2008.23-14_PR_MR0
Image '2nd', size 8192 bytes
Valid for RX-34: 1301, 1302, 1501, 1502, 1503, 1504, 1601, 1602
Version 1.1.16-200823maemo1
Image 'xloader', size 9088 bytes
Valid for RX-34: 1301, 1302, 1501, 1502, 1503, 1504, 1601, 1602
Version 1.1.16-200823maemo1
Image 'secondary', size 99072 bytes
Valid for RX-34: 1301, 1302, 1501, 1502, 1503, 1504, 1601, 1602
Version 1.1.16-200823maemo1
USB device found found at bus 002, device address 012
Found device RX-34, hardware revision 1302
NOLO version 1.1.6
Version of 'sw-release': <no version>
Sending xloader image (8 kB)...
100% (8 of 8 kB, avg. 2958 kB/s)
Sending secondary image (96 kB)...
100% (96 of 96 kB, avg. 16125 kB/s)
Flashing bootloader... done.
Sending kernel image (1500 kB)...
100% (1500 of 1500 kB, avg. 21746 kB/s)
Flashing kernel... done.
Sending initfs image (2233 kB)...

Write failed after 0 bytes
usb_bulk_write: Resource temporarily unavailable
root@mmi-desktop:/media/25thJune2008#
-----------------------------------------------------------

Scythe 2008-06-25 17:36

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
mytimes -- try sudo'ing

sudo ./flasher-3.0 -F RX-34_DIABLO_4.2008.23-14_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -f -R

Wes Doobner 2008-06-25 17:45

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Underscore (Post 195699)
Ok, I've only been running Diablo for about half an hour....the browser's the only thing I've really checked out. I watched a youtube video to see how things were running, and the page flash video loaded up almost instantly! The video was really smooth as well. Then, I tried something from megavideo. On chinook, Megavideo was like watching a slideshow...but this ran just as smooth a youtube! Wow, this is so awesome! But, then again, this is a clean reflash, so no extra ram/processor hogging apps installed.

Hmm, seems like there are some other settings in the browser that maybe weren't there before, or maybe I didn't notice them. I'll try mucking around a bit with them.

Mine's a clean reflash, too. I didn't restore any settings...

Anyway, the pages load fine (not appreciably faster as before for me, as far as I can tell) - it's going "back" to a previously viewed page that is slower for me. It used to eb instantaneous in most cases, now the page goes theough an entire reload process. Must have something to do w/ the cache settings. Currently using "automatic" for memory cache, can't recall what I was using before.

mytimes 2008-06-25 17:48

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scythe (Post 195711)
mytimes -- try sudo'ing

sudo ./flasher-3.0 -F RX-34_DIABLO_4.2008.23-14_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -f -R

Tried with sudo .... still same error :-(

lm2 2008-06-25 17:49

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wes Doobner (Post 195714)
it's going "back" to a previously viewed page that is slower for me. It used to eb instantaneous in most cases, now the page goes theough an entire reload process. Must have something to do w/ the cache settings. Currently using "automatic" for memory cache, can't recall what I was using before.

Same here! Do let us know if you figure out how to chinookize going back to last viewed page!

Scythe 2008-06-25 17:54

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mytimes (Post 195716)
Tried with sudo .... still same error :-(

Hmm, not good. Do you have a memory card in? If so, take it out. Disconnect the device from the computer, shut down the tablet, and then run the command [with sudo]. It'll wait till you reconnect the tablet. Then plug the tablet back into the computer, and turn on the tablet (while holding the "home key" on boot up). Do you have the n800 or n810?

Underscore 2008-06-25 18:02

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wes Doobner (Post 195714)
It used to eb instantaneous in most cases, now the page goes theough an entire reload process. Must have something to do w/ the cache settings. Currently using "automatic" for memory cache, can't recall what I was using before.

Mine was automatically set at 1024 (no settings restored). You're right, though. It used to be almost instantaneous, but now it takes a few seconds. It does load faster than the first time going to the page, though.

mytimes 2008-06-25 18:03

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scythe (Post 195719)
Hmm, not good. Do you have a memory card in? If so, take it out. Disconnect the device from the computer, shut down the tablet, and then run the command [with sudo]. It'll wait till you reconnect the tablet. Then plug the tablet back into the computer, and turn on the tablet (while holding the "home key" on boot up). Do you have the n800 or n810?

Scythe ! you are awesome ....the instructions you gave "works" , now I am on Diablo !

Thank you very much !

Scythe 2008-06-25 18:05

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Underscore (Post 195729)
Mine was automatically set at 1024 (no settings restored). You're right, though. It used to be almost instantaneous, but now it takes a few seconds. It does load faster than the first time going to the page, though.

I think it's done that way to save memory in general. I know in Firefox 2, it would use up to x amount of memory for the old pages.

However, our tablets have very limited ram so it would be smart not to cache the last pages [in memory] as much or at all.

Scythe 2008-06-25 18:06

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mytimes (Post 195730)
Scythe ! you are awesome ....the instructions you gave "works" , now I am on Diablo !

Thank you very much !

You're very welcome :)

Glad I could help you out :D

lm2 2008-06-25 18:10

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scythe (Post 195731)
However, our tablets have very limited ram so it would be smart not to cache the last pages [in memory] as much or at all.

Can we adjust some setting in order to see allowing a cached last page
affects the stability of the browser?

Scythe 2008-06-25 18:12

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lm2 (Post 195735)
Can we adjust some setting in order to see allowing a cached last page
affects the stability of the browser?

I don't know the preference off the top of my head, but I do know it's in about:config (I've had to speed up low-memory linux terminal's running only ffx)

Look up memory fixes for Firefox 2 on google, and there should be some property keys people change in the about:config to cache more or less.

supergadgetman 2008-06-25 18:17

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lm2 (Post 195700)
After a new flash to diablo, you'll have to update your kernel. But you won't have to update it again after you use PB's diablo-friendly install-tools deb to clone diablo to sd. But you will have to reinstall xomap, xrandr, and the automatic install, as the install-tools deb seems to remove these. See here for more.

Oh Ok. I assume the updated kernel is on Fanoush's page? Or is it the same kernel that I was already using for chinook?
Thanks again.

lma 2008-06-25 18:20

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mytimes (Post 195708)
Version of 'sw-release': <no version>

This looks suspicious, it should normally report the version of the previous firmware. Perhaps some of the earlier tries damaged something... Don't worry though, as long as your bootloader works (and obviously it does) you should be able to get the device running again.

I would suggest flashing it with a previous version to fix this (it should work, as the initfs will fit your current initfs mtd partition), and then trying again with the diablo image.

lm2 2008-06-25 18:31

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by supergadgetman (Post 195743)
Oh Ok. I assume the updated kernel is on Fanoush's page? Or is it the same kernel that I was already using for chinook?
Thanks again.

Yes. Links to Kernel, as well as instructions for implementing rotation, can be found here. Read this also, before starting.

GeneralAntilles 2008-06-25 18:32

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
For anybody wondering about the flash-and-reboot, kernel-diablo-flasher and initfs flasher dependencies. This message from Marius Vollmer on -users explains it rather nicely.
The osso-software-version-rx44 package exists twice: once in your device
and once in the "Nokia System Software Updates" repository. These two
instances of the package have the same version, but different
dependencies (stupid, I know, see below). The
osso-software-version-rx44 in the repository additionally depends on the
three packages that you list in the subject.

Apt-get uses the information from the repository, which results in the
error message you see. Running apt-get -f install will fix it. The
Application manager is not affected by this, it simply ignores the
problem and carries on. After the first OS update, the problem goes
away.

It's a bug of course that the two instances of
osso-software-version-rx44 are not identical. The additional
dependencies in the repository instance are used to (as you might have
guessed :) to control flashing of the kernel and initfs during a OS
update. The osso-software-version-rx44 instance in the flash image does
not need them, and I didn't see the problem with this because I wasn't
thinking. (I don't reflash my devices anymore, so I didn't run into
this problem myself...)

Yep, it's a bit embarassing, but should have no bad consequences other
than having to run "apt-get -f install" once (or disabling the "Nokia
System Software Updates" repository) before you can use apt-get on the
command line.

Picklesworth 2008-06-25 18:39

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
Random observation: OMG Songza.com is usable now!
Before, the browser hung up terribly with its transparent menus. Completely smooth now :)

fpp 2008-06-25 18:40

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joepagiii (Post 195243)
at the rate this is going...you'll be overwhelmed...:).

I already am, as you can tell from this reply being on page 31...

On the bright side, you just can't be over-overwhelmed, now, can you ? :-)

tso 2008-06-25 18:46

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
hmm, anyone else having a fun time trying to use the forum search dropdown alongside the onscreen keyboard? here it goes a bit like this:

1. open search menu/dialog
2. poke input area
3. onscreen keyboard comes into view while search box goes away
4. open search menu again and the keyboard goes away
5. repeat until bored...

jnfr 2008-06-25 18:54

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
I still cannot get fbReader installed, even after assuring that the Application Catalog has the "maemo extras chinook" catalog properly set as explained earlier in this thread.

I can see fbReader in my "restore applications" list, but it is not selectable (the same for the two other applications still on that list - libzlibrary and osso-xterm).

When I try to install from maemo.org, it starts the install, open the app manager, says "preparing for installation, then fails with "Unable to download fbreader. Application package not found".

In the application catalog the FBReader Repository has a red X next to it and says "failed to refresh". It is set to http://www.fbreader.org/maemo/diablo...el/Packages.gz
and has the message "404 Not Found". Deleting the repository and trying to reinstall just reinstalls the repository with the same message.

Can anyone help me? So far this is the only application that I was using that I cannot install.

darethehair 2008-06-25 18:57

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 195762)
hmm, anyone else having a fun time trying to use the forum search dropdown alongside the onscreen keyboard? here it goes a bit like this:

1. open search menu/dialog
2. poke input area
3. onscreen keyboard comes into view while search box goes away
4. open search menu again and the keyboard goes away
5. repeat until bored...

Yes! Me too! I eventually gave up and did my searches on my desktop, but it would sure be nice to know what 'trick' to use to do this on my N800!:rolleyes:

yerga 2008-06-25 19:04

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jnfr (Post 195766)
I still cannot get fbReader installed, even after assuring that the Application Catalog has the "maemo extras chinook" catalog properly set as explained earlier in this thread.

I can see fbReader in my "restore applications" list, but it is not selectable (the same for the two other applications still on that list - libzlibrary and osso-xterm).

When I try to install from maemo.org, it starts the install, open the app manager, says "preparing for installation, then fails with "Unable to download fbreader. Application package not found".

In the application catalog the FBReader Repository has a red X next to it and says "failed to refresh". It is set to http://www.fbreader.org/maemo/diablo...el/Packages.gz
and has the message "404 Not Found". Deleting the repository and trying to reinstall just reinstalls the repository with the same message.

Can anyone help me? So far this is the only application that I was using that I cannot install.

Change in the fbreader repository 'diablo' or blank to 'chinook'. It's the same problem as with extras.

tso 2008-06-25 19:05

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
heh, my solution was to swap to one of the mobile styles. the white one that has a search area on the front page. but it got its own issues, like say only placing reply links in my own posts (now thats useless)...

as for the fbreader issue, no clue. i was lucky enough to have a redundant extra entry with chinook specified already, thanks to a misbehaving .install. end story, i have fbreader installed and working...

Picklesworth 2008-06-25 19:16

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
I managed to break something (must have unchecked a service by accident; that services control applet really needs a Cancel / Apply layout instead of applying settings on the fly). Had to reflash. Now, to my horror, OpenSSH will not install because of that osso-software-version-rx44 dependency issue... but I need openssh to get root to fix that problem! (And even if I was allowed to run this stuff with Sudo, I would be unable to set my user's password outside of the root account because that, too, is locked down). Further, it is impossible to disable "Nokia System Software Updates" from within Application Manager.
It would seem that this is a new occurrence; I believe the same process of installing OpenSSH worked fine for me yesterday.

This is why sane operating systems are not designed like light bulbs. Suggestions, please :o

Edit: Installing something else first (agps-ui) seemed to fix it. That's weird!

yerga 2008-06-25 19:19

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 195778)
heh, my solution was to swap to one of the mobile styles. the white one that has a search area on the front page. but it got its own issues, like say only placing reply links in my own posts (now thats useless)...

Have you tried tap-and-hold in the search link and click open? It should go to the advanced search page.

btw, the search dropdown menu never worked for me. I am using the classic theme.

jnfr 2008-06-25 19:21

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yerga (Post 195776)
Change in the fbreader repository 'diablo' or blank to 'chinook'. It's the same problem as with extras.

Thanks for that info, Daniel. When I go to 'edit' the Repository catalog only shows http://fbreader.org/maemo with nothing under "distribution" and 'user' under "components". Where do I put the info that will send it to Chinook rather than Diablo for what it needs?

ericdkirk 2008-06-25 19:22

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
under "distribution" place 'chinook'

joepagiii 2008-06-25 19:23

Re: Diablo Released - Say Goodbye to Firmware Flashing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fpp (Post 195758)
I already am, as you can tell from this reply being on page 31...

On the bright side, you just can't be over-overwhelmed, now, can you ? :-)

well im going out to dinner tonight,....im sure the page will be in the 100s...


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