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tso 2009-03-03 21:31

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
toubletap the entry in the list quickly, it should light up green.

then hit yes and things should be working...

tho it may be that the htpc is asking for user verification before the connection completes, mileage may wary.

mfortner 2009-03-04 01:11

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Regarding my OSX problem
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...&postcount=279

this is from the OSX system log as I tried to connect:

Mar 3 20:07:40 Macintosh blued[47]: addDeviceToHIDEmulationMode - unrecognized HID device; NOT storing the link keys to the module.
Mar 3 20:07:40 Macintosh blued[47]: isCSR: 1 isBRCM: 0
Mar 3 20:07:40 Macintosh blued[47]: major class: 5 minor class: 48

Thesandlord 2009-03-04 01:23

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 268683)
toubletap the entry in the list quickly, it should light up green.

More like bazillion tap it. Just keep tapping and tapping. :D
Ah, how we all hate them bugs...


Anyway, BlueMaemo's reconnect feature seems to get screwed up when two "computers" have the same buletooth MAC address. For example, if I am in Vista, it will auto connect. If I boot into Win 7, it will auto connect if I manually reconnect once. If I boot back into Vista, I have to do it manually once again.

xolani 2009-03-04 01:31

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
I have MacOSX 10.4.11 (Tiger) and Nokia N810 and I can't get things going. I have paired both devices, but on my BT menu on the Mac I don't have the "Go -> N810" menu, how should I connect the two?
On the N810 bluemaemo ->Reconnect says "Known devices list empty"

help.

tso 2009-03-04 01:39

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
1.start bluemaemo and select new connection

2. initiate pairing from computer

3. input pin

4. wait for bluemaemo to show bluetooth name of computer in large letters!

xolani 2009-03-04 01:51

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
hmm, i don't have the "New Connection" menu. I am using bluemaemo 0.2. When I start it I only see 2 icons, "Open Connection" and "Reconnect". The hardware menu key does not work.
thx

tso 2009-03-04 02:15

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
my bad, i was going from memory and got new and open mixed ;)

drizek 2009-03-04 03:07

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
very very cool and useful app.

Two suggestions though,

Disable the keyboard touchpad area whn typing. I often wiil accidentally move the cursor instead of hitting a key

allow for key combos for the mutimedia controls so that vlc volume can be done with ctrl+up and ctrl+down.

pycage 2009-03-04 07:25

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Excellent app and thanks for putting this into maemo-extras!

I too can confirm that reconnect doesn't do anything. I have to use hidd --connect on the remote host again. Tested with Ubuntu Intrepid.

Un27Pee 2009-03-04 08:18

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
reconnecting works for me using pyRDesktop i only have to reconnect and work on the second pc switch of when done, it works everytime very useful app.

drizek 2009-03-04 08:47

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
reconnect works on Vista. I haven't had any luck gettint it to connect at all in linux yet, but htat is probably my fault.

VDVsx 2009-03-04 11:42

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mfortner (Post 268754)
Regarding my OSX problem
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...&postcount=279

this is from the OSX system log as I tried to connect:

Mar 3 20:07:40 Macintosh blued[47]: addDeviceToHIDEmulationMode - unrecognized HID device; NOT storing the link keys to the module.
Mar 3 20:07:40 Macintosh blued[47]: isCSR: 1 isBRCM: 0
Mar 3 20:07:40 Macintosh blued[47]: major class: 5 minor class: 48

Do you know if OSX support combo devices ? (Keyboard and mouse)

VDVsx 2009-03-04 11:47

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pycage (Post 268822)
Excellent app and thanks for putting this into maemo-extras!

I too can confirm that reconnect doesn't do anything. I have to use hidd --connect on the remote host again. Tested with Ubuntu Intrepid.

Can you explain the steps that you took for the reconnection ?

In some Linux System you must have the device in trusted list in order to reconnect.

VDVsx 2009-03-04 11:50

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thesandlord (Post 268759)
More like bazillion tap it. Just keep tapping and tapping. :D
Ah, how we all hate them bugs...


Anyway, BlueMaemo's reconnect feature seems to get screwed up when two "computers" have the same buletooth MAC address. For example, if I am in Vista, it will auto connect. If I boot into Win 7, it will auto connect if I manually reconnect once. If I boot back into Vista, I have to do it manually once again.

It didn't happen to me :(
Do you connect a first time in both systems ? or just used the reconnect ?
The OS need to store some info first in order to reconnect.

VDVsx 2009-03-04 11:55

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drizek (Post 268839)
reconnect works on Vista. I haven't had any luck gettint it to connect at all in linux yet, but htat is probably my fault.

Try to pair the devices in order to the n8x0 become a trusted device.

TheTree 2009-03-12 01:37

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mfortner (Post 268474)
Thank you for being patient and willing, I tried following the steps again. Beforehand, I deleted the BT device profiles on both the N800 and the MacBook Pro. I rebooted the laptop then prceeded with the 5 steps:

1. Turn bluetooth on on both devices. Set the N800 visible.
2. In the Mac Bluetooth menu, click "Set Up Bluetooth Device."
3. On the N800, start BlueMaemo and click open connection.
4. On the Mac, select "Any Device." Choose the N810 and enter a passkey. Then enter passkey on N800.
5. Click "Continue" on the Mac dialog box. Uncheck headset and leave remote device checked.

The BT set up box confirms device set up. I close the box. On the Mac side, it indicates that they are connected, however, BlueMaemo indicates it is waiting for a connection.

Under the N800 profile I never see anything that refers to mouse

So even though no connection appears to have been establiched, I close BlueMaemo, restart BlueMaemo, click open connection & try to connect through the Mac's BT prefs: scroll down to N800 and select connect (the only other choice is send file). Still...waiting for connection. There are no other menu items for the N800.

I also tried setting up as a mouse and then a keyboard, but the N800 is not recognized under those set up menus.

In the profile info, services indicated are: BlueZ HID mouse & keyboard, OBEX Object Push, Headset Audio Gateway also is listed, which surprises me since I unchecked that box during set up.

I ended up with the same problem. My Mac says it has connected to my N810, but BlueMaemo keeps waiting for a connection.

mfortner 2009-03-12 02:43

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Sorry I wish I could say I found a fix.

Thesandlord 2009-03-12 02:55

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
I tried this on my Friends Mac (during a conference). Was going to use my N810 and his iPhone for presenting slides. Sadly, both did not work :) .

The N810 pairs fine with the Mac, but then it just waits for a connection. On windows and linux, I know how to instate the connection. But on Mac, there is no way that I can find that allows you connect. It seems that both devices are waiting for a connection.

phutterman 2009-03-14 00:32

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
I don't have my N810 with me (though I'm at my Mac), but it's always worked fine for me so far. I don't think I've tried reconnect yet, though I do have the version that includes it. If memory serves one of the times I set my N810 up just as a keyboard and once as an "Any Device." In both cases it worked.

The order that always worked for me, I believe, was to start BlueMaemo, then on the Mac (if, for the sake of argument, BT was off), turn on BT, then click the BT icon in the tray, under devices mouse over N810, and click Connect. After a few seconds the BT icon should get the dots over it indicating connection and the N810 should say "Connected to [hostname]."

Anyway, later I'll give it a try and verify everything still works.

mfortner 2009-03-14 02:30

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
My Apple indicates the connection with the 3 dots, but BlueMaemo has never gone past " Waiting for connection..." Not during set up nor any other time.

What OS do you have?

Thesandlord 2009-03-14 04:29

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
On my friends Mac, there is no button to connect to the N810. i.e. there is no way to initiate the connection from the computer. I think he has the latest OS, but he is running a powerPC Mac, not intel.

phutterman 2009-03-14 07:06

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
I have 10.5.6, and there definitely is a way to initiate the connection. You can either go from the Bluetooth icon in the system tray or go to System Preferences > Bluetooth and then click on the device you want, tell it to connect, etc. Also, there it should show the services it sees on the device. For my N810, it calls its type "Combo" and lists "BlueZ HID mouse & Keyboard" and "OBEX Object Push" in its Services.

Hope this helps. Sorry I haven't actually got my N810 on me to mess with it, but I assure you that it works (and has consistently and repeatedly).

allnameswereout 2009-03-14 13:53

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thesandlord (Post 271562)
On my friends Mac, there is no button to connect to the N810. i.e. there is no way to initiate the connection from the computer. I think he has the latest OS, but he is running a powerPC Mac, not intel.

Does his Mac have BlueTooth? Mine doesn't, but I toss in a BlueTooth USB radio and in the Apple keyboard and it works.

Its fairly easy to set up too. Once you enabled your BlueTooth hardware you configure it. Make your NIT discoverable.

On the Apple you select in BlueTooth that you wish to setup a new device. The confusing part is that you must select 'Any Device' instead of specifically either 'Keyboard' or 'Mouse'. Now you fill in a PIN and this you verify on the NIT. Now they are paired, but not connected, and your Mac does not know the NIT supports HID profile. So for now it has only OBEX (or maybe HSP if you selected Headset as well). To get your Mac to recognize HID profile you select your NIT on the Mac BlueTooth config, you fire up BlueMaemo on the NIT and select Open Connection. Now you go in the BlueTooth config on the Mac and select 'configure this device' or 'update name' or 'update services'. Now it will add the HID as 'BlueZ Keyboard & Mouse' or something like that, and your NIT will say 'connected to <Mac_Name>. Afterwards, disable 'visible' or 'discoverable' on your BlueTooth devices.

Now my NIT can do something my iPod cannot: control my Mac over BlueTooth :D NIT is suddenly upgraded to a cool remote. Although there is VNC and all kind of daemons for Mac as well, these all use IPv4 networking thus requiring e.g. WiFi.

Disadvantage is that when I take out the BlueTooth USB adapter and toss it in another computer I have to resetup the thing while my NIT thinks its the same computer because of the MAC address of the BlueTooth USB adapter... but hey, it works!!

mfortner 2009-03-14 14:45

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
I appear to be connected on the Mac side: After selecting connect the indicator goes from red to green along with "connected" text. The right side of the preferences pane
window I see

type: combo
services: blue z hid keyboard & mouse, obex object push
paired: yes
connected: yes

On the N800, I see "Waiting for connection." I've let it run for several minutes.

I get this in the sytem log, but I don't know where to go from here:

Mar 14 10:26:43 Macintosh kernel[0]: [IOBluetoothHIDDriver][processCommandWL][00-19-4f-db-bc-94] Releasing All Channels
Mar 14 10:26:52 Macintosh blued[89]: addDeviceToHIDEmulationMode - unrecognized HID device; NOT storing the link keys to the module.
Mar 14 10:26:52 Macintosh blued[89]: isCSR: 1 isBRCM: 0
Mar 14 10:26:52 Macintosh blued[89]: major class: 5 minor class: 48

Updating the device name and services have not helped.

ctennenh 2009-03-14 15:01

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mfortner (Post 271628)
I appear to be connected on the Mac side: After selecting connect the indicator goes from red to green along with "connected" text. The right side of the preferences pane
window I see

type: combo
services: blue z hid keyboard & mouse, obex object push
paired: yes
connected: yes

On the N800, I see "Waiting for connection." I've let it run for several minutes.

I get this in the sytem log, but I don't know where to go from here:

Mar 14 10:26:43 Macintosh kernel[0]: [IOBluetoothHIDDriver][processCommandWL][00-19-4f-db-bc-94] Releasing All Channels
Mar 14 10:26:52 Macintosh blued[89]: addDeviceToHIDEmulationMode - unrecognized HID device; NOT storing the link keys to the module.
Mar 14 10:26:52 Macintosh blued[89]: isCSR: 1 isBRCM: 0
Mar 14 10:26:52 Macintosh blued[89]: major class: 5 minor class: 48

Updating the device name and services have not helped.


I'm having the exact same issue. I've followed every Mac-related post in this thread and though I can send and receive files, and browse the Mac from the NIT in File Manager, BlueMaemo is still Waiting For Connection. I'm running the latest Leopard build and the latest NIT firmware.

allnameswereout 2009-03-14 16:27

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Hmm... well, I have a N810... haven't tried with N800. Can you check the syslog on the NIT as well? That syslog message is OK; I have same in system.log when it works. Using keyboard right now (both virtual and hardware).

Suddenly my special keys (Fn, Shift) stopped working on the hardware keyboard though. That is a different issue but I'm stating it anyway. Reconnecting solved it.

I'm on Leopard 10.5.6 PPC with a recent BlueTooth 2.0 USB adapter. You can see in System Profiler many details of your BlueTooth chipset.

But when I was reconfiguring BlueTooth on my Mac to see what my syslog would say it did crash. And when I disabled or enabled BlueTooth the USB adapter would still not be present. I could unplug and replug it, but that did not solve it. I had to reboot. My machine crawled and my syslog was full with blued errors, repeating the same about it now knowing the HID. But I get that message even when it works just fine!

I have BlueTooth icon in my menu btw. When I fire up BlueMaemo I do Open Connection. Then I click on the BlueTooth icon in my menu, go to my device name -> click Connect -> and BlueMaemo states my Mac's name. Then I'm in.

The 2 BlueTooth devices are 1 meter away from each other.

I did a bit of reading and I learned BlueTooth HID is merely a wrapper for USB HID. Have you installed an older USB stack from earlier Mac? Those are sometimes required to get an iPod/iPhone into DFU mode for jailbreak. Just a wild guess though.

You can also check out the system logs on the NIT.

[EDIT]It crashed again a while after I tethered and synced my Nokia E71 succesfully. The NIT disappeared from the list of BlueTooth devices in System Preferences, and the thing was totally stuck. iSync was also stuck.[/EDIT]

thureen 2009-03-19 02:53

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
I am having trouble installing Bluemaemo. I installed that Canola2 base Repo that mentioned in the 1st post but no luck. I have tried apt-get and Maemo website .install. Both results in this error:

E: Couldn't find package bluemaemo

Any suggestions on what to do?

VDVsx 2009-03-19 09:44

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thureen (Post 272851)
I am having trouble installing Bluemaemo. I installed that Canola2 base Repo that mentioned in the 1st post but no luck. I have tried apt-get and Maemo website .install. Both results in this error:

E: Couldn't find package bluemaemo

Any suggestions on what to do?

BlueMaemo is on the extras repository (http://repository.maemo.org/extras/p...e/b/bluemaemo/), so the .install file should work fine, please try to install BlueMaemo again using the .install file.

Gourmand 2009-03-23 18:51

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
what do I need to use it with Broadcomm dongle and driver? I don't see something like "bluetooth keyboard" in BT Windows XP driver controls

when I run BlueMaemo it only shows "Waiting for connection"

should I have something more on PC side to get it working? kind of driver with BT keyb/mouse support?

VDVsx 2009-03-23 19:02

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gourmand (Post 273947)
what do I need to use it with Broadcomm dongle and driver? I don't see something like "bluetooth keyboard" in BT Windows XP driver controls

when I run BlueMaemo it only shows "Waiting for connection"

should I have something more on PC side to get it working? kind of driver with BT keyb/mouse support?

* Turn bluetooth on.
* Start BlueMaemo on the device.
* Go to the bluetooth preferences and choose ‘Add a new device’.
* Choose the device and choose a blank password (you can also choose a numeric password the PassAgentKey will appear on the device asking for the password).

qole 2009-03-23 19:12

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
I just want to say that I've actually started using this regularly with my media centre computer. The reconnect capability has made it perfect for using my tablet as a supplementary mouse/keyboard replacement when the MS remote is insufficient or inoperable.

I'm very pleased with the overall operation of the app. It has become quite polished feeling.

If I had one feature request, it would be that you could find a simple way to implement holding the left mouse button, moving the mouse, releasing the button, moving the mouse, and repeating. This is sometimes necessary for panning etc.

At the moment, I have to position the pointer, press the hold-left-mouse-button button in BlueMaemo, move the mouse, press the hold-left-mouse-button button again, move the mouse, press the hold-left-mouse-button button again... etc.

But this is fairly trivial.

VDVsx 2009-03-23 19:26

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 273956)
I just want to say that I've actually started using this regularly with my media centre computer. The reconnect capability has made it perfect for using my tablet as a supplementary mouse/keyboard replacement when the MS remote is insufficient or inoperable.

I'm very pleased with the overall operation of the app. It has become quite polished feeling.

If I had one feature request, it would be that you could find a simple way to implement holding the left mouse button, moving the mouse, releasing the button, moving the mouse, and repeating. This is sometimes necessary for panning etc.

At the moment, I have to position the pointer, press the hold-left-mouse-button button in BlueMaemo, move the mouse, press the hold-left-mouse-button button again, move the mouse, press the hold-left-mouse-button button again... etc.

But this is fairly trivial.

Thanks for your comments :)
About the holding feature, try the zoom - button :P

Best regards.

Gourmand 2009-03-23 19:28

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
may be driver version is too old, trying download newer one but there is no 6.x driver for XP at all - only 5.x as I can find

6.x is for this f#$%^ vista only

....

thanx for advice, this rocks! (it would not bad get little help in begining screen)

but how to make "click-and-drag" operation?? :-/

VDVsx 2009-03-23 19:34

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gourmand (Post 273963)
may be driver version is too old, trying download newer one but there is no 6.x driver for XP at all - only 5.x as I can find

6.x is for this f#$%^ vista only

You don't have the "add device option" ?
If you already paired the n8x0 with the PC, remove the device in the PC side and add it again.

Gourmand 2009-03-23 19:54

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
all works now!

I thought driver has to have keyboard/mouse installed to services list before

I would give one idea if only author is not against ideas...
can I?

VDVsx 2009-03-23 19:57

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gourmand (Post 273974)
all works now!

I thought driver has to have keyboard/mouse installed to services list before

I would give one idea if only author is not against ideas...
can I?

Go ahead :P

Best regards.

Gourmand 2009-03-23 20:11

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
I'd like create my own screens with my own skins and buttons collection

solution is fairly simple - all "control system" must exist like menu tree with screen on each level (button is just brunching point) and symbol on each terminal leaf

menu hierarchy can be described using simple XML file

and buttons and screen images are just JPEG images and can be easily replaced

isn't this prog made in similar manner?

another suggestion - animated screens... this will look amazing

sorry for my English, it's not native for me

VDVsx 2009-03-23 20:26

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gourmand (Post 273980)
I'd like create my own screens with my own skins and buttons collection

solution is fairly simple - all "control system" must exist like menu tree with screen on each level (button is just brunching point) and symbol on each terminal leaf

menu hierarchy can be described using simple XML file

and buttons and screen images are just JPEG images and can be easily replaced

isn't this prog made in similar manner?

another suggestion - animated screens... this will look amazing

sorry for my English, it's not native for me

Yes is, the user interface is written with pyEFL.
The user interface code (EDC files) is separated (the major part) from the functionalities code, it will require some small modifications in the code in order to add themes, but this feature is in my to-do list for the next versions :)

Gourmand 2009-03-24 04:41

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
what about ability to create different nested menus, with different buttons?

say I wanna create sublevel for "multimudia" - with several different control schemes for Media Player Classic, Windows Media Player, jetAudio, QuickTime and so on - same for game controller tuned for different games

Thesandlord 2009-03-24 05:01

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gourmand (Post 274078)
what about ability to create different nested menus, with different buttons?

say I wanna create sublevel for "multimudia" - with several different control schemes for Media Player Classic, Windows Media Player, jetAudio, QuickTime and so on - same for game controller tuned for different games

This combined with multikey support and multimedia key support will all but replace Salling Clicker, which is broken on Garnet VM.


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