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brunoqc 2009-12-13 17:17

Re: N900 in Canada (Toronto)
 
Did globalive received the OK on friday?

sorry the article is in french http://lapresseaffaires.cyberpresse....-globalive.php

it also says that videotron will launch in june

gtessier00 2009-12-13 19:10

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Well, now that N900 is out of order on newegg and so many people had bad experience with newegg, where do you guys recommend we can order it?
Any speculations to know when will it be available from newegg?

Webbie 2009-12-13 19:37

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I received mine from mobilecityonline.com on Thursday night, but it's now on back-order status there as well.

gtessier00 2009-12-13 19:40

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How much did you pay overall? including shipping, taxes, customs, etc etc etc???

Webbie 2009-12-14 01:19

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$579 + $59 shipping (FedEx) + $49 taxes.

Although last time I looked they are now $629 with free shipping.

Death Scythe 2009-12-14 01:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Webbie (Post 426505)
$579 + $59 shipping (FedEx) + $49 taxes.

Although last time I looked they are now $629 with free shipping.

No brokerage fees?

joshua.maverick 2009-12-14 01:54

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I shipped to the US, after Amazon refunds and TD conversion I paid

$567 Canadian :D

Death Scythe 2009-12-14 01:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by joshua.maverick (Post 426527)
I shipped to the US, after Amazon refunds and TD conversion I paid

$567 Canadian :D

That's very good to hear. Mind if I ask how you managed this?

joshua.maverick 2009-12-14 02:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Death Scythe (Post 426531)
That's very good to hear. Mind if I ask how you managed this?

Bought from Amazon at 529.99 USD + taxes & Shipping worked out to 578. 67 USD = 627.12 CDN after conversion by TD

- 55 CDN Refund for the inability to apply the Rebate
- 6 CDN shipping Refund for some hassles I had to deal with (adjusting shipping/pushing preorder etc)

$567 CDN

Syed03 2009-12-14 17:19

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Hi, i am wondering if anyone knows whether or not the N900 works on 3G in Canada. I have been told that ther version out right now does not. If this is true does anyone know if this problem can be fixed with a future software update?

Paranoxe 2009-12-14 17:33

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I have just received my n900 from newegg.ca and I didn't have to pay anything for the shipping :)

Slocan 2009-12-14 17:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Syed03 (Post 427371)
Hi, i am wondering if anyone knows whether or not the N900 works on 3G in Canada. I have been told that ther version out right now does not. If this is true does anyone know if this problem can be fixed with a future software update?

No, the N900 doesn't work with 3G in Canada. Currently, it only works with Edge on Rogers/Fido. However, 3G should work on the new network Wind/Globalive once they launch.

lovemov 2009-12-14 18:52

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Sorry for posting in another thread with same question. So, which 3G provider will work? I found it's sold on ca-united which ships from Canada. EDGE is obviously out of question, I am currently with Rogers but willing to switch it work with Telus or others...

brunoqc 2009-12-14 18:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lovemov (Post 427539)
Sorry for posting in another thread with same question. So, which 3G provider will work? I found it's sold on ca-united which ships from Canada. EDGE is obviously out of question, I am currently with Rogers but willing to switch it work with Telus or others...

globalive/wind and videotron in Québec

gtessier00 2009-12-15 22:58

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Hey guys, when do you think that newegg will get some N900 back? Any estimations of when we can order it? :D

Phlook 2009-12-16 02:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lovemov (Post 427539)
Sorry for posting in another thread with same question. So, which 3G provider will work? I found it's sold on ca-united which ships from Canada. EDGE is obviously out of question, I am currently with Rogers but willing to switch it work with Telus or others...

Well Telus is a bust... tried it and had to return the chip the next day. thats because they are not on the frequencies of HSPA that the N900 supports... So i had to fall back on Rogers...

gtessier00 2009-12-16 03:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paranoxe (Post 427394)
I have just received my n900 from newegg.ca and I didn't have to pay anything for the shipping :)

How much time did it take to get shipped ?

Paranoxe 2009-12-16 04:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gtessier00 (Post 429953)
How much time did it take to get shipped ?

The day after.

and the shipping took like 4 business days.

Slocan 2009-12-16 04:28

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I also ordered on Newegg.ca last Wednesday, it arrived on Monday, using standard shipping.

nobodysbusiness 2009-12-16 18:58

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Perhaps we could put up a wiki page somewhere for places to purchase the N900 in Canada?

Diavoli 2009-12-16 20:55

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Had already posted this earlier on another thread, Globalive rates..Alas no SIM card as of yet, but I'm pushing them...lol

http://shop.windmobile.ca/ProductCatalog/VoicePlans/

qole 2009-12-16 23:37

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Wow. So actually, Wind will be more expensive than Fido. :(

$15 is the cheapest voice plan. $35 is the only data add-on. So $50 is the cheapest voice+data package. Plus, there's no SIM-only package.

So is "unlimited" 3G (in a fairly restricted area, I bet) instead of 500MB EDGE worth +$10/month for me? Probably not, since I spend so much time in wifi areas.

And I had such high hopes. So much for competition.

pablob 2009-12-16 23:55

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Just as promised, I'm reporting that I got my N900 fron Newegg.ca and I did not have to pay any duties or taxes beyond from what I paid at Neweggs website. Yay!

Total cost: ~CAD 681, and it took 6 days (including a weekend) to arrive to Edmonton.

qole 2009-12-17 00:13

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Newegg.ca is showing the N900 as "deactivated"... that doesn't sound good.

Slocan 2009-12-17 01:18

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I think "deactivated" just means that it's not in stock at the moment. That's the way it was before they sold a batch last week, and they must set it back that way until they receive more.

gtessier00 2009-12-17 02:57

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I e-mailed newegg to know when the N900 should be back in stock... Here's the answer from them...

Dear Customer,
Thank you for contacting Newegg. I would first like to apologize, unfortunately this item is deactivated which means at this time we do not have any indication to if and/or when we will be receiving this product. I would you advise you to check back within a week or so and we may have it available for purchase. I will definitely keep my fingers crossed that the item comes back however usually deactivated products do not come back. If you have any further questions or concerns please do not hesitate to contact me directly for further assistance. In the meantime, have a great day.

That sounds bad

Clubberlang 2009-12-17 04:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by joshua.maverick (Post 426534)
Bought from Amazon at 529.99 USD + taxes & Shipping worked out to 578. 67 USD = 627.12 CDN after conversion by TD

- 55 CDN Refund for the inability to apply the Rebate
- 6 CDN shipping Refund for some hassles I had to deal with (adjusting shipping/pushing preorder etc)

$567 CDN

How did you get it into Canada? Amazon US wouldn't ship it to Canada :(

gtessier00 2009-12-17 04:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Clubberlang (Post 431364)
How did you get it into Canada? Amazon US wouldn't ship it to Canada :(

You must get it shipped to a place near the borders, and then cross and get it... A lot of trouble!!!!
I think I'm gonna wait a little bit until it is available from newegg... and you ???

Vitusya 2009-12-17 04:15

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I registered with shipito.com for an US address; Amazon shipped it there. Shipito shipped it to Alberta via USPS.

What I would like to know is how joshua.maverick managed to get a refund from Amazon in lieu of rebate from Nokia. Do you mind sharing your experience, joshua.maverick? It's much appreciated!

Clubberlang 2009-12-17 04:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gtessier00 (Post 431370)
You must get it shipped to a place near the borders, and then cross and get it... A lot of trouble!!!!
I think I'm gonna wait a little bit until it is available from newegg... and you ???

I ordered on Amazon and got it shipped to a relative in the US.

They are going to be coming up here in the beginning of January.

But I can't wait that long :(.

I am looking into the price of them shipping it to me. I'd have to consider tax/duty.

Capt'n Corrupt 2009-12-17 12:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 431185)
Wow. So actually, Wind will be more expensive than Fido. :(

$15 is the cheapest voice plan. $35 is the only data add-on. So $50 is the cheapest voice+data package. Plus, there's no SIM-only package.

So is "unlimited" 3G (in a fairly restricted area, I bet) instead of 500MB EDGE worth +$15/month for me? Probably not, since I spend so much time in wifi areas.

And I had such high hopes. So much for competition.

Yeah, but the $50 includes unlimited data (5GB at full speed with speed reduction if above) in the GTA/Edmonton. For those that like voice, $35 gives you unlimited talk. Fido can't touch those numbers. If you have low usage patterns (such as yourself), you can find lower rate fido plans. However, for slightly higher usage, Wind plans quickly out pace the competition.

Plus, there's a certain peace-of-mind that comes with unlimited -- unrestricted use. You don't have to worry about overage or how you use the device or plan your day around it (like telling people to 'call after 7' or 'call me back' etc). Just pick up and go and use your device naturally. It's the same reason I'm buying the Asus UL30Vt-A1 laptop**: with a 10hour battery (actual usage time -- no bull) you don't ever have to worry about looking for a plug socket. It's the peace of mind of being unrestricted with use.

... and it is network compatible with the N900 and the fabled N1. :)

I'm lucky to be in the GTA and I'll definitely be a Wind customer next year. I'm hoping that their service is satisfactory! There's apparently a kiosk close to where I live so I'll be walking by today to check them out!

And yeah, this competition is good. I know too many people that throw away hundreds per month in phone bills that are crying out for this service. It'll put the squeeze on Belusgers, and their limited network area will allow time for the others to catch up and offer competitive plans. Either way, prices are going to drop.

** the Asus UL30Vt-X1 is available now via amazon, and the A1 is speculated for a mid Jan release. For those that are in the market for a lappie, you won't find better bang for your buck this season.

}:^)~

jolouis 2009-12-17 15:32

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I agree with the Capt'n, while $50/month might seem more expensive than the cheapest packages from Fido or others out there, the key point really is that you're getting 5GB/month data on a 3G network that operates on the frequencies supported by N900... Yea of course it's only two major cities right now, but that's all part of any carrier roll out, and you'll see the network expansion happen next year (my bet would be they already have a lot of the build/infrastructure in place, they just have brought it online yet).

In my mind $50/month is the max you're going to have to pay... what's the point in the extra voice minutes/etc with the N900 when you should be able to do SIP calling on the 3G network without any problems? Why pay for extra text messaging when you can use a web gateway? This is the whole point of the N900 "as a telephony device" right? Move away from the "carrier determined services" and instead rely soley on the carrier as an ISP...

What's the deal though guys, I haven't had a chance to find a WIND kiosk near me yet... but if you showed up with an N900 and said "here's my phone, I want to sign up for plan X" I assume they'd say "cool, here ya go" right? or?

veiloctane 2009-12-17 17:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Slocan (Post 431259)
I think "deactivated" just means that it's not in stock at the moment. That's the way it was before they sold a batch last week, and they must set it back that way until they receive more.

What nokia n900 no longer available at newegg.ca!!!!

that's not fair because the US (newegg.com) site has lots in stock.
i just bought a phone from newegg.ca (nokia 5530)for a xmas gift and its coming in from BALDWIN PARK, CA, US
why can't newegg just transfer parts from there other sites and ship it to Canada?
I think newegg.ca needs to fix there site and let us obtain the N900 this is not fair to Canadian customers!!!!

EIPI 2009-12-17 17:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jolouis (Post 432002)
...I haven't had a chance to find a WIND kiosk near me yet... but if you showed up with an N900 and said "here's my phone, I want to sign up for plan X" I assume they'd say "cool, here ya go" right? or?

...which I JUST did. No dice. Wind has put a filter on their network for the time being. Only Wind phones work. Also supported by their FAQ.

But I agree with you jolouis.... I am going to move to wind not because it may or may not be cheaper (I think I will pay $10 more than what I've got with FIDO), but it will be better value.

Arrrgggh... so close but so far!!!

qole 2009-12-17 22:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jolouis (Post 432002)
In my mind $50/month is the max you're going to have to pay... what's the point in the extra voice minutes/etc with the N900 when you should be able to do SIP calling on the 3G network without any problems? Why pay for extra text messaging when you can use a web gateway? This is the whole point of the N900 "as a telephony device" right? Move away from the "carrier determined services" and instead rely soley on the carrier as an ISP...

Well, I'll wait for reports back on that. I never use the 50 minutes and 50 texts that I get on my $15 Fido voice plan, and I use about 150 MB on my data plan. If the 3G allows for flawless VoIP, then I might be tempted to pay more, but I'm just not in the category that sees enough value in what Wind is offering.

After tax, my $40 plan is $45. $50 will have even more tax on it, too. So I'm paying $540 a year already. Do I want to pay $600+ (probably $660+) instead? You'd better make a damn fine case for why I need it.

R-R 2009-12-18 06:42

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Yeah i really want to here people comment on the SIP over 3G with asterisk at home and such... (or on the device).

Also, it would be awesome to be able to change the IMEI for Wind ;-)

Capt'n Corrupt 2009-12-18 14:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 432642)
Well, I'll wait for reports back on that. I never use the 50 minutes and 50 texts that I get on my $15 Fido voice plan, and I use about 150 MB on my data plan. If the 3G allows for flawless VoIP, then I might be tempted to pay more, but I'm just not in the category that sees enough value in what Wind is offering.

After tax, my $35 plan is $40. $50 will have even more tax on it, too. So I'm paying $480 a year already. Do I want to pay $600+ instead? You'd better make a damn fine case for why I need it.

Yeah, in your case it doesn't make a whole bunch of sense to go Wind: stick with what works. Thankfully with the addition of Wind, Bellusgers and co. will be forced to be competitive which likely means lower rates and/or newer plans. So indirectly that $480 you're paying could be lower still -- or have more features -- thanks to Wind!

I'm also around WiFi 98% of the time and use VoIP exclusively, but I find that when I'm out and about, public WiFi doesn't offer the latency and low-jitter that SIP calls seems to demand. I always get complaints on the other end of speech breaking up or dreadful voice latency. I've contemplated getting a server and forwarding voice-data over a PSTN trunk to a mobile number (say a fido phone), but that also costs money ($35-$50/mo), and I lose the benefit of walk-around data. So for me (an avid VoIP user) the $50 Wind combo works out well.

Also, I'm generally not a fan of picking and choosing public locations that offer free WiFi. While they're generally not too hard to find (excluding illegal leaching), it still requires planning and foresight, and often the service is just 'ok'. Having a high-speed walk-around-web would be tremendously liberating for someone like me that uses it almost exclusively for work. This is especially true in the summer time.

Thankfully, due to no-contract and pay-before plans, I should be able to determine my usage over time and modify my account to suit.

But these are entirely personal use scenarios, and I fully understand and respect other use cases.

Now lets hope they open up their spectrum to unlocked devices! There's a lot of N900/N1 lovin' to be had!

By the by, I went by the location that I thought had the Wind Kiosk, but it turns out it was at a different location. So I'll try to make it out that direction and report back!

};^)~

Capt'n Corrupt 2009-12-18 14:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by R-R (Post 432970)
Yeah i really want to here people comment on the SIP over 3G with asterisk at home and such... (or on the device).

Also, it would be awesome to be able to change the IMEI for Wind ;-)

Forget asterisk... Seriously...

Go Freewsitch. Read more here: http://freeswitch.org/node/117

}:^)~

R-R 2009-12-18 14:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt (Post 433407)
Forget asterisk... Seriously...

Go Freewsitch. Read more here: http://freeswitch.org/node/117

}:^)~

hehe, I'd consider it if i had complex need but really my asterisk sertup suits me.
Though the problem I'd like to be adressed is that right now, at home, i have 2 SPA2102 ATA that works great even while i d/l torrents with a little QoS but the N900 seems to be sending, as you noticed too through other's complains, jerky sounds on the same setup.

Actually, it's also the same on the local Lan with just the echo test!


So what makes the N900 unable to do the same job as an SPA2102 which probably has much slower hardware and all this with the same settings basically?

tarek 2009-12-18 15:37

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FYI: Wind should have SIM-only sales ready in a week:

http://www.windmobile.ca/support/faq...nd/#question-1


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