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That would be too obvious. How about:

Shift + Ctrl + Func + Back

:)

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How do I get back to the standard image? When I uninstall easy debian chroot and delete the image on MyDocs, the programs that I installed are still there when I reinstall the Debian chroot program. I redownloaded the image with the debian image installer as well. Are files stored elsewhere? For example my openoffice has missing icons now and I want to go back to the original image. Thanks.

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Delete the image in MyDocs, and then use the image installer to redownload it.

PS: That is, unles the image has changed.

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andyph666:

Delete the debian-m5-v2.img.ext2 file then make sure you reboot.

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Vote for that: yes!

--denis

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Hi I'm getting ready to install Easy-Debian.
I have a 16GB microSD card. I was planning to make a 4GB ext2 and a 12GB FAT32 partition. What are the steps to expand the image to the partition? By the way, should the 4GB partition be ext2?
I thought that Maemo would not automatically mount partitions in the SD card if they're not FAT.
Also, should I install both the easy-deb-chroot and easy-chroot packages currently in extras?
Thanks,

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Now that I've got Easy Debian into Extras, I have pushed the next versions of the two packages to Extras-testing. Please install, test, and vote.

Easy Debian:

This version adds an icon to enable a hardware key combo for fullscreen toggle (Ctrl-up), an icon for openoffice.org (both back by popular demand), and a fix for the /.debian bug in the /sbin/debian script and the "Close Debian" icon.

Easy Chroot:

This version removes an unnecessary comment from the image mounting portion of /sbin/qmount, and it fixes the command line prompt for images (the image name is now shown after the "user@" instead of just "chroot").

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Qole: I get a unable to install for easy debian chroot when i uninstall it. It still shows up with the icons though and I don't have the "start" menu any longer in LXDE as in the top bar is missing.

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I was downloading/installing the image to /MyDocs and the n900 crashed. I think due to other apps I had open.
Had to pull out the battery. I booted back in. deleted the 2 image files it created using the file manager. rebooted, but once done I did not get back the full space it had used.

how do I gain back that missing 1GB?

thank you

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andyph666: You are still being much too vague for me to help you.

You get the "unable to install" in the Application Manager? When you uninstall what? Easy Debian? Why would it say "unable to install" when you are uninstalling it? And what shows up with the icons?

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dantonic: it sounds like you need to check your MyDocs partition for errors.


Try in the terminal.

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Sorry about that. Still trying to figure it out. Well first I tried to update the easy-debian-chroot package via app manager and it said unable to install. Then I tried to uninstall it as well as uninstalling the other easy-chroot package. I installed easy-chroot without any problems but easy-debian-chroot is giving me a unable to install when I've removed both packages.

Even though it failed to install, the application icons still show up but I'm guessing its not functioning correctly because the "start" menu isn't showing up in LXDE. You know the menu that launches applications on the top (it doesn't show the 6 squared button and the graph that shows cpu usage)

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andyph666: I need more information about what's going on. Please try to install easy-deb-chroot again and when it pops up the warning message with the details button, please click on Details and then it should give you a dialogue with tabs across the top. The far right one should be titled "Problems", could you tell me what that says?

The other thing to try is: close the Application Manager and then open a terminal. Type and tell me what happens.

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Okay I tried it again. It doesn't give me a warning with details button. It just shows the unable to install yellow message. But I can show you what it says in the log before it fails.

Setting up easy-deb-chroot (0.9.37-2fremantle1_armel.deb)
Nothing to do; chroot not mounted!
mv: cannot rename '/home/user/xbindkeysrc.org' No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing easy-deb-chroot (--configure):
subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing: easy deb-chroot
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

apt-get -f install gives me:
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed and 1 not upgraded.
1 not fully installed or removed.
And then it tries to set up easy-deb-chroot again and show the same error as above in the terminal.

Hope that helps

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thanks, ran the command.
this was the result:
Reclaimed 14004 unused clusters (917766144 bytes) in 2 chains.
checked clusters: 334638
Performing changes.
/dev/mmcblk0p1: 4294 files, 348642/442377 clusters
~ $

the memory usage however shows no change, I'm still missing about 1GB

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andyph666: Thanks, you've found a bug in my new version. Disable Extras-testing and install the version in Extras for now, until I get a new version in place.

dantonic: Try running the fsck command repeatedly until all the errors are gone and no changes are made. Still missing space? Maybe see if a reboot works?

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thanks qole. second and third time I got no errors from the check.
any idea why that happens? is there such a thing as a trash directory where deleted files get stored for the possibility of restoring them?

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I've uploaded easy-deb-chroot 0.9.37-4fremantle1 to extras-devel, which fixes andyph666's install problem. Please install that one. I'll promote to testing in the morning. I'm going to bed.

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Could you please include Inkscape? I have tested it and even keyboard shortcuts work. http://share.ovi.com/media/mmiicc.N9...s/mmiicc.10004

Thanks for your great work. :)

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Qole: Thanks for the update. It installed just fine. I have a question though: When I start LXDE, the top menu dissapeared, I can now fully see the My documents icon but I can't run a program from the menu as the bar is completely gone. No CPU graph or the 6 squared button that shows a list of programs. I have to do it through terminal. Is that normal?

The fullscreen shortcut (ctrl + up) works well.

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ok so I realized that fsck placed the recovered sectors into two files called FSCK0000.REC and FSCK0001.REC.
These two added up to the missing space of approximately 1GB.

I deleted them and problem fixed.

Thanks for your help qole, learned something new about fsck.

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I have the same problem. And since i'm from germany, i have a keyboard problem. The fullscreen shortcut does not work for me. To get the "up" i need to use the fn button. ctrl+fn+right (fn+right to get "up") dont do the trick. How about ctrl and space or return ? Dont know much about debian shotcuts, so i dont know if they are mapped to something.

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hi all,

I have been playing around with Easy Debian for 2 weeks now. I have managed to install several programs and run them through LXDE and the "debbie <packagename>" command in x-terminal. These programs include freemind, gnochm, xchm, kchmviewer, fbreader, fotoxx, fotowall, fontyphyton, hugin okular, and phatch.

As you can see above i have installed so many chm viewer programs because i really need them to open my .chm ebooks. Fbreader is great but it cannot handle big files very well (i also have tried FBReader from Fremantle extras-devel). xchm and gnochm load fast but unfortunately they do not support unicode. This means that some characters will appear as squares with numbers no matter what font face I choose. kchmviewer, even though it loads slower than xchm, enable me to change the encoding for any .chm documents. This fixes my problem with squares and numbers.

The keyboard is functional for all these programs if i run them in LXDE. For kchmviewer and okular, the keyboard does not work if i run them using "debbie <packagename>" in x-terminal. May be because they are native KDE applications that causes a problem with the keyboard functionality. I don't know. I really hope I can use the keyboard eventhough running these 'native KDE' applications using "debbie <packagename>".

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One very annoying bug - It shows a dialog box saying something about deleting package, even when upgrading package version. The postrm script gets a parameter that tells you if its an upgrade or a removal, so you don't need to show the message on removal. Also requiring confirmation is a bit over the top.

One only annoying bug - it opens a dialog box with some message, even when ran from apt-get. Since I do not look at the device, I am left wondering why the upgrade/install process takes so long,

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Matan: I'll try to reduce the noise of dialogues.

OptX and others with non-English keyboards: can you tell me a good key combo? I'll try Ctrl-space, but does anyone have a better suggestion?

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qole: do you have a menu bar with the easy-deb-chroot? i cant really start apps from the desktop unless i press the terminal icon and type in the app name.

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andyph666: I'm not sure what's wrong with the top menu bar yet. Mine works fine, so it is difficult to figure out why yours is broken.

Can you do the following in the terminal (-L not -1):
I want to know if there are two files, "panel" and "top", and if they both say "user users" and if they both have the same "-rw-r--r--" at the beginning of the line.

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Since I have the same problem, the line above gives "No such file or directory" message.
edit: I thought it was the LXDE terminal you were talking about.
Maemo terminal gives:
~ $ ls -l .config/lxpanel/LXDE/panels
-rw-r--r-- 1 user users 1232 Dec 20 03:28 panel
-rw-r--r-- 1 user users 1232 Jan 23 13:37 panel.orig
-rw-r--r-- 1 user users 1220 Jan 23 05:51 top
~

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I have 3 files.

panel
panel.orig
top

All three files are user users and have -rw-r--r--

The menu dissapeared since the version before the package in extra-devel.

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Hi guys,

Just groping for suggestions here...

Try deleting the panel.orig file:

I also wonder if it is a problem of one of the new plugins (network & battery) crashing your top panel?

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the menu is still missing when I entered the terminal command. What new plugins? Are there new icons in the LXDE menu?

Do you think it will go away if I delete the two apps in app manager and then remove the lxde entries in .config?

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@qole: Wow, after I've installed easy-debian, the N900 really turned into the ultimate device I was dreaming of! Thanks!! :)

As I've posted in a different thread, I have installed cups, which gave the one connectivity I was still missing, namely to my network printers, but I've noticed that I have to manually restart cups after every power-down of the N900 (not otherwise).

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...671#post490671

Perhaps this is the right place to ask for advice, or even have cups as an integral part of easy-devian added to a wishlist.

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andyph666: figured the menu thing out, a fix is coming.

rebhana: you could start cups in the script in the chroot, /var/run/onfirstchroot.rc ... this is a script that runs as root when you first open the chroot.

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Wow! I was regretting the lack of documentation, but this is so much better: not having to find some hack, but to be adviced by the master himself!:D

EDIT: Only problem: I can't find /var/run/onfirstchroot.rc ... Do I have to create it?

EDIT2: Yup! I've added this file with content "/etc/init.d/cups restart" and it works! :cool:

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More I am playing with it, more I like it!

A small question. I need latex with various packages. Would be possible to make a folder outside of the image and to save latex packages there? would the latex of easy-debian see them? with proper instructions of course!

I think it should without problems, but I would like to avoid to break it, as I would not be able to reinstall it during this weekend :D

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after getting:

'unable to install 'easy-deb-chroot'. some application packages required for the installation are missing'

i tried again a few hours later and it worked with no probs,
and im extremely impressed with it!

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Thanks for the update qole. Bar is back again :)
But looks to me as if the last peace of the network icon is cut off.

http://www.bilderload.com/bild/24878/unbenanntP9Y11.jpg

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I get the same thing but its getting better and better. I don't see a battery icon anywhere as you mentioned one before.

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So strange! Now even the 'old' OpenOffice from an unmodified image file is fast and snappy! What has changed?!?

I created a fairly complex document with multiple fonts and tables, saved it, converted it to PDF... and it was a nice experience!

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Sounds good. Thanks for all the time you put into it. Any ETA on the new image?