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rolan900d 2010-09-05 15:39
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Thanks...

umount leads to nothing...

Invalid argument (I have done it)...

I can't see anything running in the background and tried several reboots as well

can I use killall command to try and shut something down?

rolan900d 2010-09-05 15:43
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Oh yeah...
This maybe the issue...
Due to errors on my sandisk I had used this thread to get it partitioned...

http://wiki.nitdroid.com/index.php?title=N900-install

Do I need something else now?

rolan900d 2010-09-05 16:34
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rolan900d (Post 807894)
have to reinstall my N900 after some modding bugs...
I am running this way to go:

http://forum.nitdroid.com/index.php?topic=84.0

I am trying the last part and have to get the Nitdroid partioned out...
After the string this is my error in x-terminal:

The disk is currently in use - repartioning is probarly a bad idea. Umount all file systems, and swapoff all swap partitions on this disk.
use the --no-reread flag to suppress this check.
Use the --force flag to overrule all checks.




What to do now?

After almost 2 hours, still unable to get it repartitioned

Also formatted entire N900 and then tried again...
So nothing installed and still that problem

bunanson 2010-09-05 17:47
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
with your microSD in, and boot up normally in diablo,
do this
xterm
root
cat /proc/partitions

and what do you have?

bun

rolan900d 2010-09-05 18:38
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bunanson (Post 808009)
with your microSD in, and boot up normally in diablo,
do this
xterm
root
cat /proc/partitions

and what do you have?

bun
Hold on mate....
Just formatted the sdhc card on a sandisk PC-app

Then I will try....

n900 lover 2010-09-05 18:38
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
hi guys i love the new nitdroid although am finding it a bit slow and unresponsive. cant wait till its fully operational. my question is, since i put nitdroid on my 4gb card, can i take that out and use another card just to boot maemo on its own? come to think of it, i guess i can! lol , wat other phone can you do that on?!! i love my n900!

rolan900d 2010-09-05 18:45
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bunanson (Post 808009)
with your microSD in, and boot up normally in diablo,
do this
xterm
root
cat /proc/partitions

and what do you have?

bun
179 0 15558144 mmcblk0
179 1 15554048 mmcblk0p1
179 8 31264768 mmcblk1
179 9 28315648 mmcblk1p1
179 10 2097152 mmcblk1p2
179 11 786432 mmcblk1p3

bunanson 2010-09-05 19:29
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
your microSD partition has NOT been successful.

option 1: redo your partition
if failed again,
go to panasonic low level partition, details , thread #27

bun

rolan900d 2010-09-05 19:43
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bunanson (Post 808064)
your microSD partition has NOT been successful.

option 1: redo your partition
if failed again,
go to panasonic low level partition, details , thread #27

bun
Will try this then.....
It will take a while.....

Dousan 2010-09-05 19:55
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
I just tried some of Gamelofts 'try and by' games. Pretty awsome looking. Running smooth and no problems in that direction. Only thing is that they are made for multitouch (capacitive) screens, so they come on as, not so N900 friendly. I've tried Asphalt 5, Nova and Modern combat sandstorm. The first is ok to play and and the lagg of multitouch is not noticeable enough to make the playfullness any less but joyfull. The 2 latter ones on the other hand is not that joyfull and here i feel the lagg of multitouch and thats making the playing less fun and smooth as it could be :( Still awesome to have some full blown games to have fun with :)

bunanson 2010-09-05 20:02
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
I did the NOVA, and it is pretty impressive to me. I have NOT been able to get a copy of asphalt5, I googled those place, they sound fishy. I have NOT have that much fun with the N900 for several months. I am still playing with apps that I installed, but not even tried....

bun

Dousan 2010-09-05 20:11
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Try this link for Asphalt 5 ;)

http://gloft.co/ab3a8a5e

They are very impressive i agree, just not made for resistive touch screens though...

rolan900d 2010-09-05 20:14
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rolan900d (Post 808037)
179 0 15558144 mmcblk0
179 1 15554048 mmcblk0p1
179 8 31264768 mmcblk1
179 9 28315648 mmcblk1p1
179 10 2097152 mmcblk1p2
179 11 786432 mmcblk1p3
What are the specs when it is repartitioned correctly?

bunanson 2010-09-05 20:53
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rolan900d (Post 808099)
What are the specs when it is repartitioned correctly?
==============================
Originally Posted by rolan900d View Post
179 0 15558144 mmcblk0
179 1 15554048 mmcblk0p1
179 8 31264768 mmcblk1
179 9 28315648 mmcblk1p1
179 10 2097152 mmcblk1p2
179 11 786432 mmcblk1p3

==============================

you are missing mmcblk0p2

How come mine is mmcblk0 built-in N900 card and mmcblk1 is microSD card? strange
Anyhow, you are missing the mmcblk0p2. what kind of card is yours, 16 G card?

Your partition commands should be as follow:
Shamelessly stealing from wiki, for a 16 G card
==============================================
xterm
sudo gainroot
umount /dev/mmcblk1p1

sfdisk -uM /dev/mmcblk1 << EOF
,14100,C
,,L
,,
,,
EOF
===============================================
- double check your typing before hitting return. upper case and lower case are different.
- after that, reboot, and do another cat /proc/partitions
- start a thread on forum.nitdroid.com>installation help>n900, I will meet you there. I do NOT want this thread turned into another installation thread.

Edit: I DO NOT dictate what people want to post here, feel free to post what you want to post. However, I plus others would be more than happy to help you regarding installation problem on the other forum, forum.nitdroid.com. I would very much, please, keep this thread as a thread to "open the capacity of n900" to a different OS, to make your n900 more capable, to make your n900 to do something which is otherwise NOT possible because Nokia has declared maemo5 EOL, to.... you got the picture.

I would NOT respond to any installation questions post here, I would continue welcome, discussion, comments, critics, suggestions, rotten tomatoes, exclaimation, sigh or whatnots here, thanks for playing

bun

n900 lover 2010-09-06 04:08
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
does the size of the card make a differance to the speed of the os?
i have a 4gb

jerryfreak 2010-09-06 06:04
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
ill bet the speed of the card is more important than the size of the card. engadget has an article today bout toshibas new class 10 which will be great for this when it comes out and the price is right

http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/05/t...c-and-microsd/

shadowz1337 2010-09-06 06:26
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
how is the battery life of running Nitdroid compared to running Maemo? I haven't installed it yet so i don't know. I'm interested in installing it though, has anyone got it to multi-boot so that u can switch between Nitdroid and Maemo anytime?? I have Backup Menu and it apparently has a multi-boot function, or that you can add one somehow but i currently have a bricked N900 and don't wanna brick it again after i reflash it.

NvyUs 2010-09-06 06:53
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
battery life is ok'ish not as good as maemo 5.
multi-boot works you have to reboot to change between OS
if you like playing with your n900 i'd definitely install nitdroid lot of fun to be had playing

arnoldux 2010-09-06 08:03
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
sorry to ask, ,im just a total noob on this kind of things, im VERY tempted to install nitdroid, but i have a question....

i know its automatic install but.. how to install, just download the autoinstaller from the devel repo and thats it? it will do EVERYTHING?

cheers :P

rolan900d 2010-09-06 08:15
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by arnoldux (Post 808424)
sorry to ask, ,im just a total noob on this kind of things, im VERY tempted to install nitdroid, but i have a question....

i know its automatic install but.. how to install, just download the autoinstaller from the devel repo and thats it? it will do EVERYTHING?

cheers :P
Check here please:

http://forum.nitdroid.com/index.php?topic=84.0

If you use a Sandisk mmc then first check here...

http://forum.nitdroid.com/index.php?topic=141.0

Goodluck

edgedemon 2010-09-06 08:27
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Just ordered a 16Gb Kingston, as I noticed the phone function has gone from 'not working' to partially working, so its time to give this a go :-)

rolan900d 2010-09-06 08:38
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by edgedemon (Post 808441)
Just ordered a 16Gb Kingston, as I noticed the phone function has gone from 'not working' to partially working, so its time to give this a go :-)
What class mmc and what prize?

edgedemon 2010-09-06 08:45
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Class 4 and 28 quid...

agdroubi 2010-09-06 08:53
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by edgedemon (Post 808441)
Just ordered a 16Gb Kingston, as I noticed the phone function has gone from 'not working' to partially working, so its time to give this a go :-)
Shouldn't the update be available in extra-devel when we hit update in application manager or everytime we need to uninstall and install again to have the updated version???

agdroubi 2010-09-06 09:18
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Originally Posted by edgedemon View Post

Just ordered a 16Gb Kingston, as I noticed the phone function has gone from 'not working' to partially working, so its time to give this a go :-)

Shouldn't the update be available in extra-devel when we hit update in application manager or everytime we need to uninstall and install again to have the updated version???

bunanson 2010-09-06 11:52
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
I followed myself on post #1, and made 2 more nitdroids, one on kingston 4G, one on Kingston 8G, including the 1st one I made, kingston 4 G, I have 3 booting nitdroids. They all are rated class 4. All finished in 5 - 6 minutes. However, they performed very very very differently.

1st Kingston 4G, class 4; cannot tell if it is NOT running maemo!
2nd Kingston 4G, class 4; slow, but still manageble, but is not fun.
3rd Kingston 8G, class 4; painfully slow, to the point it is painful; you type a command, it waits for 2 -3 second, then it starts to crank....

All made with same procedure thread #1; have all same apps; All I can say, is not all class 4 are created equal..



Bottomline, despite all the 'other' posts, I just went through the same instructions, with pre-partitioned, all finished in less than 10 minutes; you need to have a fast SD to have fun with nitdroid.

bun

arnoldux 2010-09-06 18:45
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
woot, got it, tnx man :)

rolan900d 2010-09-06 19:01
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by arnoldux (Post 808821)
woot, got it, tnx man :)
Great to hear !!
have fun mate

bunanson 2010-09-06 23:20
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by n900 lover (Post 808034)
...can i take that out and use another card...
Yes. See previous post.

bun

bunanson 2010-09-06 23:25
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
somebody asked about opera mini installation. Installation should be click at the .apk with file manager or a browser. Auto installation by nitdroid will NOT work.

bun

andrew_85 2010-09-07 08:39
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
hello guys I tried ti install Nitdroid,but it got stucked and last night i found out that my memory card is not anymore read by the phone and the titan s kerl doesn't work anymore . .i disinstalled the Nitdroid autoinstaller but the situation is the same what should i do?how do i make my mc work again and also the titan s kernel?

thansk

NvyUs 2010-09-07 12:32
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
I've not tried this app yet but apparently it enables access to all the paid and free content for market place for ppl with restricted access due to region or device.
http://amip.tools-for.net/wiki/android/marketaccess

EDIT:dam, i tried it but it needs us to root android to use it.
anyone got tips for rooting nitdroid

bunanson 2010-09-07 17:36
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
[QUOTE=andrew_85;809327...how do i make my mc work again ...thansk[/QUOTE]

Install panasonic low level formatting for SD card on your PC and do a low level formating to reclaim your SD, see this thread, #289. Post your results.

bun

lemmyslender 2010-09-07 20:14
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bunanson (Post 808555)
I followed myself on post #1, and made 2 more nitdroids, one on kingston 4G, one on Kingston 8G, including the 1st one I made, kingston 4 G, I have 3 booting nitdroids. They all are rated class 4. All finished in 5 - 6 minutes. However, they performed very very very differently.

1st Kingston 4G, class 4; cannot tell if it is NOT running maemo!
2nd Kingston 4G, class 4; slow, but still manageble, but is not fun.
3rd Kingston 8G, class 4; painfully slow, to the point it is painful; you type a command, it waits for 2 -3 second, then it starts to crank....
bun
I think it depends more on the read speed of the card in question. Class refers to the minimum write speed of the card.

For instance, I have a class 4 8gb and a class 2 4gb. The smaller class 2 card is far faster running nitdroid than the larger class 4 card.

Testing speeds in windows (using a card reader or the n900 itself), I found the write speeds to be similar. However, the class 2 card was around 50% faster on the read speed than on the class 4 card. I saw this in multiple tests. I have posted results in a thread here and on forum.nitdroid.com.

I suspect in most cases, it's the read speed that slows the system down (loading apps shouldn't involve much writing, but a lot of reading).

Bun, if you would perhaps test your cards and see if read speed is faster on the cards that work better?

bunanson 2010-09-07 22:00
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lemmyslender (Post 809975)
...Bun, if you would perhaps test your cards and see if read speed is faster on the cards that work better?
I am curious too. Can you suggest how to do it? TIA,

bun

lemmyslender 2010-09-08 00:37
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bunanson (Post 810065)
I am curious too. Can you suggest how to do it? TIA,

bun
I was using this, but any disk benchmark software should do. I did it both by using my n900 in mass storage mode (can compare to n900 32gb memory) or by using an sdcard reader.

From my post on nitdroid forums. Perhaps more like 30%, not 50% :)
Code:
Using CrystalDiskMark 3.0 (free) on Win7, average of 5, 50MB test file.
Cards tested using a full size sd / usb adapter (A-Data Trio)

PNY 8GB, class 4
          Read          Write
Seq:    14.03        8.249
512k    13.36        1.195
4k      1.904        0.011
43-32  2.174        0.023

When I was using this card, NITDroid was slow, and lots of application not responding popups.  Will retest with latest version.

Sandisk 4GB, class 2
          Read          Write
Seq:    18.38        8.175
512k    18.35        2.172
4k      3.521        0.025
43-32  3.673        0.035

Card works well, very quick, few if any application not responding popups.
As you can see the class 2 is better almost across the board compared to the class 4.

bunanson 2010-09-08 04:32
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
1st post updated to include nitdroid 0.0.8 installation instructions

Thanks for the nitdroid dev team :-)

bun

somedude 2010-09-08 04:41
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bunanson (Post 810262)
1st post updated to include nitdroid 0.0.8 installation instructions

Thanks for the nitdroid dev team :-)

bun
bun,
please update the first post on installing 0.0.8 step 4 with:

wget [url]http://downloads.nitdroid.com/e-yes/NitDroid-0.0.8-Popov.tar.bz2


because if someone tries to copy and paste the one you have in there they will get 404 error ( when i used the code tag it wrapped it and shrinked it)
thanks

bunanson 2010-09-08 04:59
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression
 
Good catch, pal. I like to boot without animation, it cuts down to almost 10 - 12 seconds! Instructions on 1st post. thanks again,

bun

Juanma9 2010-09-08 06:14
Re: Nitdroid today, auto-installer and 1st impression and 0.08 installation
 
ok i ve been having a problem when i try to partition the sd card straight from my n900.. i follow exactly the instructions but after i type in this commands" sfdisk -uM /dev/mmcblk1 <<EOF
,<2100>
,,L
,,
,,
EOF"

after i hit enter i get a list of weird stuff and then at the end it says "sfdisk: bad input" and i dont know what to do next, i need some help since i wanna get nitroid in my n900 really bad but i cant partition my sd card.


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