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MSameer 2011-09-08 15:43

Re: [Announce] Holy Quran for N900
 
@immi.shk Night mode will be added. It will just take a while :)

@prankster Swipe in Qt/QML is not supported for N900. I implemented it using panning instead and it wasn't working properly. Currently you can try to swipe left/right/top/bottom and the arrows will show up.

Regarding tafseer, Are you aware of a website that alows downloading tafseer ? Find me one and I can try to see if I can use it.
Currently there are 2 Arabic tafseer texts available. Just pick Arabic and install them.

@ejasmudar I don't understand the problem that everybody is complaining about. Is it the font rendering ? Is it the spacing between lines ? Is it how the font looks ? Is it that the font doesn't look like the moshaf ?

Someone has to explain the problem to me so I can try to solve it.

TransTech 2011-09-08 16:21

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i think they are complaining 2 points at a time..
i.e.

1. The Scheherazade Font dont look the same on N900, as it should be.. i.e. as seen on PC.

2. The font they are looking in Holy Quran App is not looking like Mushaf font..(aka KFGQPC) or the font used in Quran (Book)..

I think the new font which you will be implementing will solve this issue.. (this problem is not that critical at the moment, because it gets solved when you put the new font i.e. Amiri font ).

:)

ejasmudar 2011-09-08 16:35

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Msameer, what Transtech said is right. See the attached image for differences in how the word "Allah" (SWT) is rendered on the application (left) and how it is done according to the sample in this page, although both are Scheherazade.

anees 2011-09-08 16:47

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is it just because the user hasn't installed the correct font (Scheherazade) in the device? that it renders the text with available Arabic font..

TransTech 2011-09-08 16:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ejasmudar (Post 1084417)
Msameer, what Transtech said is right. See the attached image for differences in how the word "Allah" (SWT) is rendered on the application (left) and how it is done according to the sample in this page, although both are Scheherazade.

but i see a problem with the word Allah.. see your post itself.. ;)

ejasmudar 2011-09-08 16:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TransTech (Post 1084432)
but i see a problem with the word Allah.. see your post itself.. ;)

Are you talking about the Shaddah?

TransTech 2011-09-08 17:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ejasmudar (Post 1084433)
Are you talking about the Shaddah?

yep.. and also many other words had that problem...

ejasmudar 2011-09-08 17:24

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But in the sample, the other words, such as Kullu, mimma, ayyu, etc all have shaddah. So i think maybe omitting shaddah for ALLAH (SWT) maybe intentional?

TransTech 2011-09-08 19:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ejasmudar (Post 1084458)
But in the sample, the other words, such as Kullu, mimma, ayyu, etc all have shaddah. So i think maybe omitting shaddah for ALLAH (SWT) maybe intentional?

who will do it intentionally, btw if he does, its not good..and i think that font itself is not good, lets just wait for Amiri font...:)

MSameer 2011-09-08 20:06

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Guys, hold on please.

I know what's wrong. The font I'm setting on the QML component is being ignored.

I still need to figure out why.

I created a minimal application that renders the basmala using the Scheherazade font.
It worked fine on my PC.
It ignored the font on my N900
It worked fine on N9

I was speaking to the same guy doing the Amiri font (Khaled Hosny) and he's suggesting it could be related to some old libraries used by Qt. Still trying to find a workaround...

ejasmudar 2011-09-09 05:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MSameer (Post 1084538)
Guys, hold on please.

I know what's wrong. The font I'm setting on the QML component is being ignored.

I still need to figure out why.

I created a minimal application that renders the basmala using the Scheherazade font.
It worked fine on my PC.
It ignored the font on my N900
I'l try on my N9 and report back tomorrow.

Yeah i had the feeling that the font setting was being ignored... Somebody else also mentioned this before IIRC. Hopefully you can fix this soon. Thanks man.

MSameer 2011-09-09 17:48

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Good news :)

Khaled suggested a workaround (https://twitter.com/#!/KhaledGhetas/...86579643809792).

Please give him a thank you tweet if you are on twitter :)

I tried that and managed to get the font to work.

He also told me he fixed the shape of some characters in the font. I'm yet to get the new font from him and then make a new release.

TransTech 2011-09-09 18:50

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fantastic.. i have a twitter a/c i'll do it..:) btw i'll mention your name..is it ok

MSameer 2011-09-09 19:18

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0.3.9-1 is out!

The only fix is the font issue.

It should be available in the repository soon :)

TransTech 2011-09-09 19:33

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in next 20mins ... i think.. ;)
edit: in repos.. installed :)

Jigzy 2011-09-09 19:38

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its getting more and more amazing by the day!!!

Jazak'Allah Khair!!!!

TransTech 2011-09-09 20:07

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looking tooo good... i think we dont need amiri font now... btw bismillahir rahman arrahim should not be mixed with surah name... it should be saperate...

MSameer 2011-09-09 20:08

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It's not an aya. I can't put it with the sura body.

TransTech 2011-09-09 20:15

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ok.. keep it as it is... but one more thing... spacing is needed after a surah finishes and new one starts on same page while translation is on or hidden.. ex: see surah 114 with translation on.. surah heading and translation of last ayat of surah 113

anees 2011-09-09 20:25

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minor glitch:

Menu > Settings > Manage translations:

"Add translation" button overlaps with the list of already installed translations.

it can either flow down to the bottom of list..
or stick it to the mini-dockbar containing "back" / "return" arrow

however, the button is clickable. So there is no hinderance to add another translation

ejasmudar 2011-09-09 20:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by anees (Post 1085139)
minor glitch:

Menu > Settings > Manage translations:

"Add translation" button overlaps with the list of already installed translations.

it can either flow down to the bottom of list..
or stick it to the mini-dockbar containing "back" / "return" arrow

however, the button is clickable. So there is no hinderance to add another translation

Anees, malayalia? Nice to know, us mallus arent all symbian/android sheeple! Anyway, did u have to install the fonts for malayalam? I am getting boxes in place of the text.

MSameer 2011-09-09 20:37

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@TransTech I'll try to fix that but it's really a hard one to fix.

@anees Is that CSSU ?

I don't have my spare device now. I can however move it to the menu.

I've been thinking about the "Reset settings" button in the settings page and the "Add translation" button in the translations list page.

Should they stay as they are now ?
Or should we move them to the menu ?
Or should we move them to the toolbar ?

TransTech 2011-09-09 20:39

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menu is the best idea.... :)

edit:
anyway if its possible easily, fix it in near updates or else leave it for later.... we have lot of big ones in todo list.. :)

thanks and may Allah bless you... for your instant fixes and updates...

I think theres hardly any app in repos which updates with new features this fast.. :)

MSameer 2011-09-09 20:46

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Is that fine ? Or do I need to increase the height of the separator ?

TransTech 2011-09-09 20:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MSameer (Post 1085154)
Is that fine ? Or do I need to increase the height of the separator ?

little more..about 3px

TransTech 2011-09-09 20:49

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reset settings button to menu, add translation to dock..how is it?

MSameer 2011-09-09 20:55

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That's 8 pixels now. Is that fine ? ;)

Take care that separator is being put underneath all translations. It will affect all of them if we keep increasing its height...

That's how I managed to fix it quickly ;)

You guys have been of great help by providing wonderful feedback and contributions.

It was all my wife's idea BTW :)

MSameer 2011-09-09 20:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TransTech (Post 1085159)
reset settings button to menu, add translation to dock..how is it?

Would you give me an icon for that please ? I'm thinking about something similar to a plus sign (+) but you are the artist not me.

ejasmudar 2011-09-09 21:01

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Alhamdulillah, this update is just great! It fixes all the major problems/features. IMO, all the remaining is just improvements on an already great application.
Somethings more to add to your todo, if you dont mind:
1. search feature to search in translations also.
2. maybe add an option to read out loud the translation with espeak
3. cosmetic improvements like maybe a calligraphic background, etc

Once again, Jazakallah! Like TransTech said, there is not a single other app in the repos with such frequent updates. Your dedication is admirable. May allah reward your hard work in this world and hereafter,

prankster 2011-09-09 21:35

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great work Sameer ,
suggestion
if there was theme options to change the background looks ? ( conversation modder e.g)

laith.m.y 2011-09-09 21:38

Re: [Announce] Holy Quran for N900
 
@ MSameer

can I add (Tafseer) for the app ? and from where can I get it ?

anees 2011-09-09 21:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MSameer (Post 1085148)
@anees Is that CSSU ?

yes, its CSSU (the older, 15). kindly ignore it then.


Quote:

Originally Posted by ejasmudar (Post 1085143)
Anees, malayalia?.. Anyway, did u have to install the fonts for malayalam? I am getting boxes in place of the text.

തന്നെ, തന്നെ! :) Yes. Currently I have two Malayalam fonts: Rachana_04.ttf & suruma2.ttf in the folder: /opt/usr/share/fonts/truetype

anees 2011-09-09 22:04

Re: [Announce] Holy Quran for N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by laith.m.y (Post 1085202)
@ MSameer

can I add (Tafseer) for the app ? and from where can I get it ?

go to
Menu > Settings > Manage translations > Add translation > Arabic.

two tafseers will be listed. تفسير الجلالين and تفسير الميسر
choose.

MSameer 2011-09-09 22:14

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@ejasmudar
1) I'll try to do it. Problem is generating the search index will take a while but I have an idea already. Will add it to the TODO list.

2) Not all languages are supported. A better idea would be someone generating mp3 files using the existing translations and it could be added as a custom recitation. Maybe it can be done from the same app or it could be another app that reads the translation files and generates the needed mp3 files. I can help with that if needed.
I'll add it to the TODO anyway

3) Backgrounds will really interfere with reading and backgrounds for translations. That's the main issue.

@prankster Do you mean the colors ? Or do you want images for the background ?

@laith.m.y Only 2 Arabic tafseer texts are available. Choose Arabic from the list of languages and install them.

@anees It will be moved anyway to the toolbar once I get an icon :)

prankster 2011-09-09 22:19

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http://cdn.precentral.net/resources/...al/quran_2.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-sdkWd5S3-a...ran-ipad-1.jpg
http://koolmobile.net/wp-content/upl...eader-HD-2.jpg

i mean different backgrounds/different fonts/colours ,it includes everything .only if that is possible !

MSameer 2011-09-09 22:23

Re: [Announce] Holy Quran for N900
 
Different background colors and font colors is fine. It will just take a while because it needs to work fine with the theme.

Background images most likely will not be implemented. It will interfere with reading.

Different fonts ? Are you sure we want to use custom fonts ? You have seen the problems we have been through in order to get 1 font to work :(

prankster 2011-09-09 22:30

Re: [Announce] Holy Quran for N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MSameer (Post 1085244)
Different background colors and font colors is fine. It will just take a while because it needs to work fine with the theme.

Background images most likely will not be implemented. It will interfere with reading.

Different fonts ? Are you sure we want to use custom fonts ? You have seen the problems we have been through in order to get 1 font to work :(

lol its okey ,i think ejasmudar could be a help here .anyway lets wait for every one's call .thanks though !!
Edit : URDU tafsir ??

MSameer 2011-09-09 22:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by prankster (Post 1085248)
Edit : URDU tafsir ??

Do you personally have it ?

prankster 2011-09-09 23:02

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can you tell me tafsir contains which type of files so that i can search for it?and soon i will be having it too inshALLah . xmL?

MSameer 2011-09-09 23:15

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I have no idea.

It could be anything.

If you manage to get one then submit to tanzil.net using the instructions here http://tanzil.net/wiki/Adding_New_Translations

Once it gets accepted, post here and I'll add it.

If you also find a website that has multiple tafsiir texts available for download then I can try to add support for it.


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