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"Preparing navigation voice: 0%" is for the vocal reading of the street names (TTS or Text To Speech) - that means that in the settings you have Voice Navigation set to Full.
It should not affect the routing calculation.

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@damagedspline with regards to the 20% battery reaming bug (despite there being much more charge). There are times when I get the bug. A reboot has always stopped it from happening again for a good while. I keep forgetting to post back about it.

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@damagedspline

A little bit offtopic, but not really. I understand you're not representative for Waze, but just compiling/porting it for us, maemo users, so big thanks again. Do you know what's the deal with the v3 change. Apparently, they don't publish the source code anymore, and they have stated that the license of version 3 is not more GPL. They are closing the source? It becomes proprietary ? If this is true...I will not have reason to contribute anymore to this app on my N900. Do you have more information about wtf they are doing and is this the future of waze (free as in beer, not as in freedom proprietary app)?

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The point of waze is that it was based of opensource project by some Israeli guy and they couldn't change the license, they probably re-write it and changed it. I think they want some profit and even if not selling app, they want to be in full control of that. And i think it's major problem for dev to switch to v3 API, but you what do you mean but "I will not have reason to contribute anymore to this app on my N900." ?

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Disappointed from waze policy...(i heard also that the real goal of the project is to use voluntary work of the users, taking user's gps tracks, edits, and reports on street names etc., to create a proprietary map like navteq and teleatlas)

So i have a question for software programmers ('cause im not): would be possible to use the original gpl code of waze to make a different version of the program that help openstreetmap project (www.openstreetmap.org) instead of Waze Inc. ?

At least OSM is cc-by-sa project and the coverage of map is also good...we can still have traffic reports on osm maps...and possibily users can improve osm reporting wrong street name etc, or uploading gps tracks on osm server. (ps: waze editor on their site is very similar to osm's Potlatch)

It will be possible or too much hard work?

a good name can be Maze...

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as @zogg pointed out, waze 3.0 was rewritten from scratch and thus they are no longer bounded by GPL rules.
note that waze was never true opensource as there was no mainline source repository that allowed you to commit fixes/features.
the source is not open but the maps are in the way that u can freely use and edit thier maps and commit changes to it.
i also dont understand the contribute part....

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it is possible to do what u suggest, in fact in my 'new waze' demo with the demo data i have made a similar thing (not released yet and probably never will) - using osm maps and put the waze traffic reports on top of it, so its kinda osm/waze hybrid. I have no idea how to implement the osm map server with fixes. Remember that its is just a demo with real map but with dummy traffic data. Anyway to make it really work is about half a year of work so maybe once i'm done with the new ui integration to the waze-qt project i will start rolling things up that way to detach from the closed sourced waze.

in the mean while i have postponed the new ui infavor of another rewrite of the network layer (mainly webservices accessors) to fix the routing faliure issue. I already have something that work but crash a lot, ao once i fix the crashes i will release a package for the affected N900 which u can test and report network (and only network) related issues before i release it officially.

since i need to evacuate my apartment this week and my new apartment is not ready yet, the release might take another week or 2.

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For "contributing part" I mean all the waze map edits I have made, routes I have draw, even little villages. My contribution to waze until now is very little, but I have discovered this software 2 months ago and I have planned to help much with building full map of Bulgaria. Right now only 5-6 of our big cities are on the map, and the map needs much much contributions and edits to be full ...and then accurate. I can say that for Bulgaria it is about 5% done, so much contributions needed.
But now I won't do it...if waze is proprietary, I'm not willing to contribute to closed source.

OpenStreetMaps sounds like good idea...

Re: [Announce] Waze for N900/N9/N950
 

The setting does exist, but is lost when the application is closed.
Thanks, I'll have a look at those files.
I added the line 'General.Log level: 1' to '~/MyDocs/.waze/preferences' although I had to create the file as it did not exist.
It took a few days, but Waze crashed again at the same spot. I will upload the postmorten to the issue tracker shortly.

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in the latest version the log level property is actually 'Log%20level' under the [%20General] section. I'll update the first post with this info once i'll finish with the relocation

EDIT: also the path changed and is now ~/MyDocs/.waze/data/preferences.ini

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:confused: I have a [%General] section not a [%20General] section.
Anyway, I have added 'Log%20level=1' in both sections, hopefully I'll be able to submit a more complete postmorten soon.

EDIT: Logging is definitely more verbose now.

EDIT2: Looks like 'Log%20level=1' under [%General] is the one that did the trick.

Voices availlable?? - Waze for N9
 

Hi,
I have just installed Waze0.09, great software, but can you tell me which voices are available? I need Spanish Latin America or similar but it don't load anything... Only UK (simon) voice is working at the moment.

thanks a lot :)
Franck

Re: Voices availlable?? - Waze for N9
 

i am currently working on several fixes for the network layer. It might fix some sounds and translations that fail download.

Re: Voices availlable?? - Waze for N9
 

thanks !!! i'm waiting next release...:)

Re: [Announce] Waze for N900/N9/N950
 

No disappointment. I was expecting as much.
Think you could give it a shot to try & setup a rough baseline for android ?

I wonder now if the developer intended the original source to be synchronous with earlier builds and thats why some files are missing ? Or am i cold here ?

That was pretty lame of them to say it was open the way that they did. They certainly had a few million people going.
Including the DOT in California. lol

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?se...fic&id=8225311

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Sorry to distract again. I wrote a letter to Waze asking wtf is happening, why they are becoming closed source and will the source of new versions of waze will be published to the repository again.

The answer was shocking for me:

Re: [Announce] Waze for N900/N9/N950
 

Took Waze 0.0.9 for a road trip. Lost all mobile signals (Gifford Pinchot Forest) and Waze went into an unrecoverable loop prompt for network connection. Even when returning to a signal available area and choosing my mobile carrier, Waze seemed not to wait for the network connection to stabilize. The select network dialog returned immediately prompting for disconnect of network connection.

If disconnect was selected, then the prompt for connect immediately appeared. And so on.

Could never get out of this loop. Ctrl-backspace would not allow task to be managed.

Eventually had to power down phone to regain control. Shouldn't Waze be able to run in GPS only mode? Understand we lose map downloads etc, but Waze would at least be stable.

Seems that there needs to be some timing added to allow a network connection to complete. And, perhaps a user prompt to continue with GPS only.

Thanks again for the efforts!

Re: [Announce] Waze for N900/N9/N950
 

I have experienced the exact (d)effect with waze on my N900, just like PdxDoug.
It happens with Wi-Fi network or with Mobile internet, it doesn't matter which connection. The only way to get out of this endless prompt is to reboot the phone.

Re: [Announce] Waze for N900/N9/N950
 

Waze was reviewed briefly in Sunday's (01 Jul 2012) New York Times Automobiles section. Largely positive review.

Wasn't clear as to which mobile device was used for testing nor was the version...

Re: [Announce] Waze for N900/N9/N950
 

Awesome.

I think its the best app N900 has ever seen. Good job.

Re: [Announce] Waze for N900/N9/N950
 

waze not work

Re: [Announce] Waze for N900/N9/N950
 

the freeze that occurs in bad connectivity condition is known. i am currrntly working on somefixes to the network layer that might affect it for good, but to be fully fixed it requires a much larger fix which i plan to do as part of the ui rewrite.
it takes a lot of time and as it seems, the next release (network fixes only) won't be in the coming week. sorry.

Re: [Announce] Waze for N900/N9/N950
 

can u please elaborate?

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My N9 schema attached. Basically, I changed [Map] Background to black, [Sea] Color to dark blue and made [Freeways], [Highways] and [Streets] all one shade of grey darker.

Now just need a way to set this permanently. ;)
I've uploaded as issue 15.

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Thanks!
I will add the schema tomorrow. How would u like to name it (so it'll be in the menu)? OLED Optimized? Optimus Gingus (thus having part of ur username in it)? something else?

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I think just 'AMOLED' would be fine.

That's the term Nokia use in the N9 specs.

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Added.
Just one last thing remain. It needs an icon for the selection list in the menu, can you please create one? It should be similar to the icons in /opt/waze/data/skins/default/schema*.png
For now I have simply copied schema8.png as is and named it schema9.png so it will have the same icon as the "Map Editors" schema.

If you can't do it (GIMP/photoshop are the best apps to do it), I'll do it in the weekend. Shouldn't take more then half an hour.

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Great, thanks!
How is the one I have attached?

Regarding the name of the colour scheme, I didn't realize there were 8 different Day colour schemes, I thought there were only 'Day' and 'Night'. :eek:
I see now that there is more space for the name, so how about 'AMOLED Optimized'?

Will this scheme be able to be active during the day and night? It won't be good if Waze reverts to the generic 'Night' scheme, which will then be brighter than this one.

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Excellent! Added.

Name changed to 'AMOLED Optimized'.

I have now added a small change that will make day/night irrelevant in AMOLED optimized mode.

One more thing: Since this is only valid for N9 and not the N950, I cannot make it a default for Meego builds. So after installation, anyone who wishes to use it will have to set it manually in the Map Settings -> Map color scheme.

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:cool:

If N9 users like the new scheme, is there a way of detecting the device programmatically and setting it as the default scheme for N9 devices, but still allowing users to override it?

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bad news. Waze have started changing thier server so parts of the old code no longer works.
i will start futureporting what I am able to find. I found a way to log some problematic requests so I will ask you to use it for a couple of days and report the logs that contain my marker so I can fix.
This means that the UI change I wanted to do will be further postponed.

As I said, I have started fixing some of the issues I've found. Hopefully I'll release a testing deb next week with some of my overrides and ginggss' N9 color scheme. Since I'm also having some difficult personal time I really hope to release the deb next week and not postpone it too much.

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Is there an easy way to move waze to background in order to get to the desktop ?

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Simply swipe...

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Maybe on the N9, but on a N900 the only way is the Ctrl BackSpace task manager key combo. And, this is difficult while driving!

Really would be nice to get the standard task button in the upper left corner. Having the "About Waze" icon in the upper left corner is pretty useless.

Re: [Announce] Waze for N900/N9/N950
 

use camkeyd

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I also used camkeyd for that. I can add a visual button as well, but since it will be in the upper toolbar it will be small so again its the unconfortable to be done while driving.

When I will finally get to write the new UI, I will change that as well, but for now I am doing some big rewrite to the network layer of the application.
Regarding that, my current blocker bug is that the map tiles download queue is being clogged by 2 tiles that does not exist on the server and that kinda break the draw of the road if the map was not previously downloaded. I think I know the cause and if I am right it will take a few more sleepless nights and atleast one test drive to my workplace (which is now 1hr instead of merely 5 min) before a new release.

So far it feels that my rewrite gave another preformance boost with much less screen freeze - but I will let you decide on that once released.

For all the people that are starting to be frusterated by the time its takes me to release the new version: see the changes I'm doing to the code here - if it looks like a gibberish to you, imagine like what it feels like diving into it... :p

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Status updates:
1) Map tiles issue fixed.
2) New issue - the alerts are only updated if the map is on the current GPS location ("Show Me")
3) Old issue (finally happens here so I can fully reproduce) - "Unable to contact routing server" - that is a good thing as now I can test it.

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Update status:
Just found the cause for the routing issue and it is a nasty nasty bug in Qt:
1) Using the recommended QNetworkAccessManager, I get status code 0 and remote disconnection error.
2) Using the deprecated QHttp, I get the response header OK (statuscode 200 && good content length), but in the finished slot I get a failure (statuscode = 6365312 with "Invalid HTTP response header").

EDIT: I have created QTBUG-26672 & currently Waze port is on halt until solution is found.

EDIT 2: QTBUG-26672 was closed as a server bug instead of being treated - Qt ppl failed to understand that I do not have any access to the Waze servers as I am just a whitehat hacker. The good news is that they had pointed me to exact problem with the server and so I have made the ugliest workaround yet! Now it is... well... kinda working but still needs some bugs fixing. Phew... that was a nasty bugger! :)

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We have come to the moment where I prerelease packages so you can assist me in testing the network fixes before I upload the new release to the repositories. I simply can't test such a massive change by myself.

The changes:
* "Failed to connect to navigation route server" fix
* Massive network rewrite
* AMOLED theme (not set by default)
* Small performance improvements

If you install the packages below, please report anything that has stopped working since the last release. Please understand that it is still ALPHA release...

N900 - http://waze-qt.googlecode.com/files/...9-28_armel.deb

N950 - http://waze-qt.googlecode.com/files/...9-28_armel.deb

Thanks!

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n950 is n9 as well right? just to be clear