Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

I found three different input keys in the config file (direct, optical, and coax), and I have all three of them mapped to internal Pierogi values, but I've only got the "direct" input mapped to a button right now (the "PC" input button in the secondary buttons "Input" tab), which I admit is pretty useless. I really do need to rework the input control scheme in Pierogi. :)

BTW, do you have a "toggle" input button on your remote? I've got controls that will choose a single input, but no single command that will let you switch between all the inputs...

I see that there are a couple of config files available, I'll put it on my list. :)

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Sorry, the toggle button is only on the device itself. There are three distinct buttons on the remote as you say.
On pierogi, I can see only
power -> power
mute -> mute
Volume up -> volume up
volume down -> volume down
red -> effect
blue -> settings

There is none of the 3 input buttons, could you map them please on 1,2,3 of the keypad tab (or anywhere you please, I just thought the 123 buttons are the most appropriate)

EDIT: Now I saw it, I hadn't seen that screen up to now...
EDIT2: The secondary buttons are too far away, and that's a function I use a lot, as almost all the primary buttons are empty, please put them somewhere more accessible...

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Yes, the whole "secondary buttons" window was a quick hack I threw together when I realized I had too many tabs on the main window...

I will go ahead and map them to 1, 2, and 3 right now.

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Phillips TV worked flawlessly. Now Keypad tab should be next to Main tab. Just an opinion. All four channel +/- and volume +/- should all be aligned vertically on the right for a simple thumb control since we have to keep the n900 in landscape form to work the IR.

Ok so .. i was wrong earlier.

Sony Keyset 1 worked with my older sony tv RM-870 and Sony Keyset 1a (does work) worked with the newer sony tv RM-GA002. Now trouble is RM-GA002 that i thought did not work earlier only works at a distance of say within a foot, foot and a half and thats it. So its really not usable.

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Yeah, I've kinda placed the tabs in the order I personally use them most. :)

And I admit, the two-handed design of the main screen is on purpose. For two reasons: one, I wanted to make the buttons just as big as I possibly could (to make it easier to look at the target device while using Pierogi, rather than looking down at the phone), and two, I want you to use two hands when using this app. Holding the phone in one hand while trying to manipulate it with your thumb, particularly while in landscape mode, is just going to force you to drop it. I fumble normal remotes all the time, fumbling a several-hundred-dollar phone is far worse...

But yes, the idea of customized interfaces has been brought up, and I expect there will be other options in the future. :)

Interesting! Are there any range problems with the older Sony? Moreover, does the Philips work at a longer range than both Sonys? (I may still have something subtly wrong in the Sony protocol, if the range is getting cut short for everybody...)

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I cant argue because it is a valid UI design. One thing ive noticed myself doing alot is using just my thumb and trying to reach all the way to channel buttons on the left side and obstructing my IR port with part of my hand. I guess remotes are naturally for one handed use and in portrait. This is in landscape and hence for two handed use. If you want, maybe sometime down the road, we can also put the UI in portrait form.

My older sony (mid 90s) works fine with a decent range. The newer sony (2007) has the range issue, remote used is RM-GA002. Not just the range issue, because even standing at a foot distance i had to keep pressing the same button couple of times to get it registered. So there is some sort of bug. I was using Sony keyset 1b on it.

Hope it helps

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Thank you! I will do some more investigating, there may be a newer flavor of Sony IR control that I'm not supporting correctly...

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Amazing app bro! I love it. My Qtirreo does not work since 2months and this app is amazing! :)

Only thing I missing is a remote keyset for Humax (Vaci-5300) receiver.
It would be great to have it at Pierogi!

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Found a bug in the filtering algorithm on the 'Select Keyset' screen:

Select 'Make' -> Panasonic
Look at all the 'TV' keysets
Select 'Device' -> TV
Only 'Panasonic TV Keyset 1b' shown

I haven't checked that all other 'Devices' filter out correctly on all 'Makes' but there might be other bugs like that. I think it might even be possible that some keysets are missing if you filter only by 'Make'.

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I see a config file for it, so I'll put it on the list!

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As the old saying goes, "that's not a bug, that's a feature!" Well, ok, yeah, that's kind of a bug, but not in the coding sense, more in the design sense. I put the "filter by device" feature in to try and utilize the compatible device data I've been slowly feeding in to Pierogi. But, if you check out the Device Compatibility List, you'll notice that "TV Keyset 1b" is the only Panasonic TV keyset with any devices listed. It's going to take some time to build up a real database of what devices work with what keysets.

I probably shouldn't even have that filter in there until more device data is available. (I could also just claim that all the Panasonic TV keysets support Panasonic TVs, but I'd prefer not to make that claim until I've received confirmation that the keysets work on at least one TV. The data I'm using to create keysets in Pierogi is not necessarily trustworthy in all cases...)

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Ya i noticed Select Keyset window has issues selecting. Sony + Dvd wont bring up anything. But sony dvd keyset is available and working flawlessly too. It seems like a basic coding issue. I cant look at the code as i dont have IDE setup with linux. Logic seems to be wrong and needs to be worked on.

e.g. Acer - Tv - no tv keyset but it is there etc etc etc .. it can be repeated with every manufacturer name or by selecting device before manufacturer.

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Ah! If you have a working Sony DVD player, please add it to the Device Compatibility List. Once that keyset has a supported device, it will show up when filtering. (I forgot, I have a Sony DVD device I can add that list myself...)

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Dear Copernicus,

I was wondering if you´d have any opinions on this:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=82346

I´m looking for something to be working on Pioneer devices (AVR/BDP),
do you think there´s any chance to make this?

Thanks a lot

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Hmm. I suppose coverage of bluetooth remote controls would be one way to extend a product like Pierogi. I guess I should look into it a bit.

I've gotta admit, though, that I'm finding I really do prefer IR to bluetooth. IR uses a lot less power, is extremely easy to work with, and is compatible with an enormous range of devices. (Including Pioneer.) I suppose if you've got an N9 and not an N900, though, this isn't something you want to hear...

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thanks for that...
the thing is that a WiFi remote control could almost completely replace traditional IR remotes íncluded with the AV devices...
since all newer AV devices are connected to network for Internet radio streaming, DLNA, web browsing, BD Live...
shame is that iOS is hugely supported in this, you can have a decent WiFi remotes for Pioneer, Denon, Marantz, Onkyo, NAD, even Bang and Olufsen + almost all most-commercial brands like Sony, Samsung, LG, Panasonics....and the apps look nice, work good and are constantly updated...and the AV brands strongly support using these apps as a replacement of traditional remotes...they advertise it everytime at specs with respective product...

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Only to a certain extent. Being able to control a device remotely is quite convenient, but Bluetooth/Wifi/etc. controls are still far more expensive than IR. And, of course, not everybody on the planet has an iPhone. Yet. (Thank goodness...)

Well, that's the thing -- it's not too hard, or too expensive, to create a decent remote control app for a particular phone. But it gets harder if you try to support multiple architectures. And it is practically impossible to get every customer to use the same WIFI device -- you can't just give away an iPhone or iPod Touch with every AV purchase. But you can just give away an IR controller, they are that cheap to build.

iOS devices are so widespread today that it is cost-effective to make them a remote control mechanism for many devices. But they aren't widespread enough to make them the primary remote control mechanism. At least not yet. IR will continue to be around for quite a while to come (unless they start giving away bluetooth dongles with every purchase -- I could see that happening).

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Yep, very true...

the damn AV brands should put ALL the existing mobile OS on the table and release one app working for all...iOS, Droid, WP, Symbian, Bada, Linux-based OS...and that´d pretty much cover every possible market in the world, since global assumption is that the person who buys such AV device probably has a mobile phone, too...or at least there´s a chance...
then they could simply include the original remote only upon requests...

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Good evening and sorry for the inconvenience. United can add TV please?
Many thanks in advance best regards from Rome, Italy Fabio

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Thanks for the update again.

Will report back on Virgin Media and Sky+ HD when I get to test them.

How's the Sony issue going?
If it helps (probably not) I haven't got a keyset to work with a Sony amp yet. Haven't got Model Number to hand but can get it.

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It's now on my list! :)

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The issue isn't getting very far. I have a Sony DVD player to test against, but my problem is that I'm not having any problem with it. I'm able to send pretty much every command I've got, and at a decent range (6-8 feet from couch to player).

Yes, absolutely, I would like as much info as possible about the devices that are not working -- if I can figure out what is different about them, I may be able to determine what I'm doing wrong. Thanks!

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hi, thanks for this app, the ui is super slick!
i had the below 2 remotes used in qtirreco before it quit on me after a reflash, could they be added to keysets??

tv

http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/bush/WS6680

audio

http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/panasonic/SA-AK25

thanks again

phil

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I got a sky+ box from a friend so replaced my comedy fortec star box. With the new update, I can get channel up to work sometimes but not always, but great. It's working on a dish receiver.

edit. I have to be a few inches from the box. With the tv, over 3' and still working.

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Just had the same problem but NOT WITH PIEROGI.
On a LG M227WDP TV/Monitor i found LG TV Keyset 1 worked perfect changed inputs no probs.
Then we tried to learn a friends V Box remote to control the LG's volume. It went into a odd input (just fuzz), and showed the version number as a screen saver.
The only way to get out of it was pressing EXIT and MENU together on the original remote and then selecting another Input.
The Input key did nothing it this mode. Pulling the mains did nothing.

I guess there's possibly something odd with these LG TV/Monitor's. It can't be Pierogi's fault if a Virgin Media Remote can cause the same/similar thing!
I couldn't make Pierogi do the fault.

Added the working Virgin Media Boxes to the device wiki, thanks.

The amp that's not working is:-
Sony AV Reciever STR-DN1000 - Remote RM-AAP042

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I'll put them on my list! BTW, I think the Beko TV Keyset 1 is almost identical to the values in the Bush config file, you might try using that one until I get the next update out...

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Sigh. These satellite receiver guys just know how to make my life hard. :) I'll keep trying.

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Thank you! I guess it may just be dangerous to try and control LG monitors with remotes, period... May need to give the user a warning about any devices that behave badly with remotes.

Thanks! Looking at the similar RM-AAU014 LIRC config file, I'm starting to think that I may possibly have something mixed up with the shorter 12 and 15 bit Sony codes; my DVD player is using just the 20-bit codes. I was certain I had all the codes working exactly the same way, but I will take another look...

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Mine is ~2m; however, sometimes I watch the TV from a larger range. There, my regular remote works while the N900 still can't.

BTW, I am reporting a problem in a separate post. Thanks!

Re: [Announce] Pierogi - a universal infrared remote control app
 

on select keyset then devices. can you add the AC in there. thanks!

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I suppose I could, but I'd prefer to get an actual confirmation that the keysets work on at least one air conditioner before I do that. :) I'm fairly confident that they will, but not certain.

If you have gotten one of the A/C keysets to work, perhaps you could list the device on the Device Compatibility List? That's what I'm really using to drive the device filter. Thanks!

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I would like to report something that perhaps might be a bug in Pierogi. I'm using the latest release.

So far, I've seen the problem only with LG keysets. I hadn't had time to test it with my Philips sets.

The problem is: I put the LG keyset in my favorites. The Philips keyset was preselected. I wanted to change some setting in a LG TV set, so I changed the keyset using my favorites.

Result? No respone from the TV set.

Then, I selected the keyset from the app menu... and only then it worked.

That's it: When I select the LG keyset from the favorites, it doesn't work. But when I select it from the app menu, it does. Can you look into it, Copernicus, please? Thank you !

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Interesting! This sounds like a fairly decent bug. I suppose there are a number of different possibilities; for one, I'm only changing keysets when Qt reports that the "selection has changed"; it may be possible (via some form of "dragging" or other gesture) to highlight an entry in the list without officially "selecting" it... It could also be that the entry in the favorites list has somehow gotten modified or corrupted; the problem may go away if you remove the keyset and add it back in. (Even better, leave the existing entry in the favorites list, and try to add the keyset after selecting it from the main keyset menu. If you can get the same LG keyset into the favorites list twice, then something has definitely gotten corrupted in the QSettings file.)

I'll see if I can find anything to cause such behavior in the code... Thanks!

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The first decent IR control application. Very good work!

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Excellent app - thanks. Can you add the Sinotec keysets - it says it uses the RC A22 remote.

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flawless app!

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Sinotec looks like it is going to be hard to do -- I'm not finding any config files anywhere...

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I just see the program in Extras and download.

I have a Sony TV and works perfect with the keyset 1 (isn`t metion the model on the device list, but a lot of sony tv have or use the same "configuration/remote control").

I`m going to try with a ps3 (via bravia sinc).

I would like if you can add the direct tv keyset, if you can`t, don`t worry.

Greetings.

Edit: Confirmed, it work with the ps3 too (via bravia sinc).

Is very anoying to write (for example introduce password to log in) but works.

it would be cool if you can add letters in the numbers of the keyset or/and with the red/green/yellow/blue buttons should be the X/triangle/square/circle function of the ps3 control (mostrly triangle who really is necesary for some stuff).

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Could you give us the model number? I'd love to put it into the list, and moreover, there seems to be a problem in Pierogi with some types of Sony TV, and I'd like to find out which TVs work and which do not. Thanks!

I've been fighting with the DirecTv protocol for a while now. :) There is a preliminary keyset for it in the latest version of Pierogi (in the extras-devel repository), if you'd like to test it out.

Let me look in to it -- there have been a number of user interface improvements suggested for Pierogi, and I'm hoping to spend some time improving the design... Thanks!

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Model is KDL-40WL140 (little old).

I use it as primary phone so i stay "safe" in Extras, so sorry can't help.

Well do what you can, the program is simple and works, that's the important.

By the way, the buttons for play, pause, etc works well too on the ps3 when see a movie.

Thanks for the program.

Greettings.