Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v50 in Extras-Testing
 

Half (2/3?) of things You mentioned wasn't touched since kp49, but it's still nice to hear that You have so positive experience ;)

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v50 in Extras-Testing
 

sometimes placebo efect works better than real improvements :)

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Hmmm... (now that I'm a bit more awake) the more I think about it, the more I wonder if I ever upgraded to KP49. I may have actually still been on KP47 before the switch to KP50.
I remember thinking about an upgrade to KP49 for a long time, and looking back, I'm not positive I actually made the effort to upgrade it. :)

Either way, I'm certainly glad I did finally upgrade to this one!

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Still running v48, having no problems at all in doing what i want to do with the n900.
Overclocked
Running smooth.
Never longer than a day from power cord.

i wonder, did i overlooked any good reason to install v50 (considering 'don't fix anything when not broken' adagium)?

regards
drax

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v50 in Extras-Testing
 

Pointless question - check changelog and decide Yourself.

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I was happily using KP47 and never saw the need for upgrading to the latest versions.

The turning point for me was SmartReflex.. I wanted to see if it would bring any benefit in my (low) usage pattern, so I went ahead and installed KP50.

I can now say that (1) it didn't break anything, (2) VDD1 and VDD2 on gave me a 10-15% improvement in time between charges.

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v50 in Extras-Testing
 

Not pointless, you just are missing it.

aware of v50 is in dev rep?

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hey all, after d recent update, i observed that my kernel configurations are not stable ie they keep changing from the limits i set:250 805 to 125 850....what seems to be d issue?

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v50 in Extras-Testing
 

harry, I think that typically happens after weird things done by battery patch, which has a thread where such things can be discussed.

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Not tryin to put blame on anything but I've been using the patch for awhile and didn't notice anything....so why nw....?anyways what action would correct this?thanks

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purge it..i too had batterypatch before..with kp50, the patch battery life improvement is not noticed and only messes with your device...in the wrong ways.

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thanks 4d speedy reply...I'll do just that.....

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i purged it, rebooted and still observing same inconsistencies in the kernel configurations

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I was to used to charge my N900 after 2/3 days of use....
Now with KP50 and "ORIENTATION LOCK" enabled, this is the 5th day of use!!!!! :D :D

Could someone try to disable rotation to confirm the same behavior???

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Not fixed for me :(

My device keeps not rebooting via x-terminal and *sometimes* reboots after a shutdown :eek:

Another one: I don't know if it's related to kp50, anyway recently is very hard for me taking shots with BlessN900; whatever mode I choose, 99% times just crashes after I push the camera button.

Any ideas on those ones? I got latest CSSU.

Thanks

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If the overclock settings are being modified without you being involved, it means that some program is doing that.

The default kernel settings program does that *once* during boot. So you have to figure out which program is doing that.

Batterypatch and/or speedpatch are the two most obvious candidates. While I'm not familiar with either of them (nor do I wish to be), I seriously doubt that apt-get remove or apt-get purge will actually remove them as the user would expect (at least speedpatch is/was known for messing up your .bashrc when uninstalled).

Conclusion: either you're knowledeable enough to remove any remaining parts of those programs (as well as enough to not install such things again) OR you treat your N900 as infected by a rootkit and reflash it completely.

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first : sp/bp has their own thread to discuss in

second : ed_boner ... if you can't seem to find batterylife improvement, then it doesn't mean that bp messes with your device
and throwing every problem to batterypatch or speedpatch is getting a habit around here ,right ?

as harry reported here/ he removed batterypatch and still he's having the same problem .. he had before
so the problem isn't caused from bp

now reinob
as for speedpatch i admit that it had removing problems with .bashrc and .profile
however latest version was fixed.. also it's now in extras (stable one)

about batterypatch .. well why don't you make a simple test , i made plenty of them regarding to removing thingy

especially bp doesn't inject or modify already existed files,
it just adds new ones .. apt-get remove|purge ... will do the job

.......

seriously am bored from throwing most of the problems on sp and bp
period

//edit again i say any further discussions ,MUST be continued at sp/bp thread

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i think people started to throw everything on them when speed patch had problems in removing?

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well, cant do a reflash now...alot is at stake...I just got to stick with it since m not noticing any strange behavior yet....I appreciate you guys for your help....thumbs up

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I think you're being a little disingenuous here. One of the primary things BP actually does is change the upper/lower limits for overclock. Though it stopped doing so recently, BP was the only tool to my knowledge since Titan's kernels to enable/use 125Mhz. This would imply that the original poster has an older version of BP installed, and that fragments of it are still in place and being called despite an "uninstall".

Current versions do not. Older versions did. We've already determined this is an older version. If it was installed in conjunction with SP, then really there are injections and the like. For all we know he could be using one of the script versions, from before there was even an installer package...

As for a "test" about BP, we have that test: We ask if someone has it installed. When dozens of people have issues with it, and the question at hand is about changes happening that are known to be caused by BP, a test is far from needed.

As you've noted multiple times in your own thread, sometimes it will take more than one reboot to "fix" issues around install/uninstall of BP. Also, if this version of BP is old enough to be using 125Mhz, it's probably also old enough to have uninstall issues as well (there were many versions that didn't clean up after themselves very well). Which means that even uninstalling it may not have cleaned it off his system.

Instead of bickering however, I think the better thing to do it to move this discussion to the proper thread. There you can make sure all elements of BP were actually removed, and better instruct on how to use kernel-config to load a stable setup.

Good luck.

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v50 in Extras-Testing
 

Hi guys installed kp50 today and oc to 1.15ghz with reflex off no problems seems stable web browsing etc I don't use battery patch now causes it seems to reset the default oc back to 805mhz so uninstalled it. Well my n900 now flies like a rocket I use a high capacity Bluedream battery as recommended on this forum so I don't really notice major battery drains.But a big thanks for this I was just wondering is it possible to set the min oc to 125mhz instead of the default 265mhz? I have used the xlv setting with 1.1.5 ghz no smart reflex no problems at the moment.

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Planning to fry egg in Your N900, if You, even accidentally, run into 100% CPU usage for 15-20 mins, eh?

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Right! It IS really possible to fry egg, because after even 5 minutes with 100% on 1150mhz temperature is almost 50 degrees!
If someone doesn't know how to use this "1150" he shouldn't even touch this option.

@jutley, we know that your SR is off if you oc'ed to 1150 ;)

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The temperature of battery chip (which is located somewhere on PCB) is 50 degrees, SoC itself is probably much heater, not to mention MPU itself. It may not be big danger for people - for example - painting with mypaint on 1150 mhz (as CPU isn't on 100% - yet, I still don't recommend it), but running that 100% time is risky - any random -devel (or not) program can get "Stuck" in 100% for extended while (until You kill it), while aircracking or similar tasks actually keep it 100% on purpose. There is almost no benefit in keeping it 1150 mhz instead of 900 mhz, yet temperature difference is colossal.

Goddamn fried egg lovers ;)

/Estel

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MOOOOORE POWAAAAAAH!
But seriously, for those out there who use 1150 as everyday clock speed, you might want to check what you really need.

805MHz with SRVDD1=1 and VDD2=1 gives just about the right balance of battery life and performance.
(noticeable hildon desktop load speed increase, bearable wait times when launching apps in Easy-Debian, etc.)

Also, beyond 805MHz, the Power-On Hours at those frequencies is (thoretically) exponentially lower.

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how does your battery even survive for more than 2h at 805mhz? I barely get a day out of my n900 at default clock speed, with smartreflex enabled etc..

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@woody
please read
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...postcount=3222
thanks

@jutley

why don't you try to enable vdd1 wiith 1.5 ghz
your N900 will be even faster :p

please no body does what i have just said

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v50 in Extras-Testing
 

guys,
you're missing something in jutley's post. he/she is in "Mars". it's a lot cooler there so there's the chance that the N900 won't heat up that fast.

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Don't critisise him so, sometimes I'm using 1150 too (eg facebook browsing) but I have to say that dsp profile is very well (for me ofc, as everything in this community). Changing profile is very comfortable with desktop command execution widget.
Other problem with temperature is releated with battery, massive cpu usage - massive battery usage. Fastly discharging battery is getting hot. Try to connect both side of AA battery and check what happens ;)

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Overclocking often is done in conjunction with undervolting, so battery could even last more...

For example I use "ideal" profile, 500 - 850 Mhz, having 500 Mhz voltage lower than the stock Nokia 250 Mhz voltage (see here). So in theory my battery using ideal profile (idle at 500 Mhz) lasts more than your battery with stock voltages (idle at 250 Mhz) :p

So overclocking, if done with undervolting, should also result in longer battery life and preserve cpu, definitively...

If you want to try go here.

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Thats it my friend you hit the nail on the head I live in cydonia mars atmospheric temps fluctuate here between - 100 degrees -150 so yea I really can overclock my n900 @1.15ghz it's the only way to stop the actual internals from freezing here.I am Waiting for the new mars rover curiosity http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/msl/index.html to arrive on August 5th 2012 with new Bluedream batteries supply we hear they run very well and we are very interested in Estels new back covers keep up the great work guys mars over and out.

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Tell me more tell me more can I do it write now?

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undervolting cause lagg for playing video and recording video
sometime reboot while recording video

I think its not good idea to undervolting much

sorry for my bad english

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v50 in Extras-Testing
 

a couple of reboots in over three months of heavy use (always while browsing very heavy web pages), no issues with video playback (xvid, mplayer, tv-out) or recording (not so much of this one, really).

It's worth for me. ;)

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No one can help? :(

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This one killed me - facebook, ultimate resource eater. 900 mhz is ok for whole Debian, but not for facesh|t ;)
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Now, can we get back on topic? ;)

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Here again... The charge of my previous post, LASTED 6.5 days only enabling "ORIENTATION LOCK" and with a normal use of the phone (calls, sms, some web browsing)

How is it possible???? :confused:
There must be something strange...
With the screen off, are the acceleration sensors disabled or not?

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v50 in Extras-Testing
 

The sensor should not be enabled when the screen is locked, but who knows :)

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v50 in Extras-Testing
 

i have updated from KP48 to KP50 works fine

but i have noticed that my N900 temperature is much high(i can feel it)while charging and also when i see conky it show 500Mhz but xterminal shows(kernel-config show) min 125 max 600
??????

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How can I change my min to 125mhz I use kp50.