Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

Judging from the above, you actually don't have SIM in your n900 and you are not using it much. Correct?

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

Correct :)

Not correct. I am using it daily, to learn OS internals (specially boot sequence). Also using your 720p libs to watch movies on my TV (as I have old TV) :)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

In my case is different, I have installed CSSU-thumb, the first time, and until now, almost a month, I can say that performance on my N900. has improved somewhat, not freezing, no stutters, as sometimes happened, besides the last few weeks I've been trying, with other code backtrack network audit, and never had a stutter, I have not had to finalize a task; install and uninstall applications, and more, and not I have needed to restart, just yesterday by an oversight, I turn off that I forgot to recharge the battery (I fell asleep listening to music online) would have been nice to add a picture of conky.

Not if you have to see the extensive use of the phone for some people to notice the differences (I have over 140 applications, regardless of some that run in terminal), also use it a lot, at every moment all the time.

As for the battery, the truth I have not seen much difference with the kp50, though my battery is old, and I think these days to buy another.

For the rest thank you for continuing to improve and maintain our current n900, and I'm eager to see new updates and report it in this way.

Regards and thanks.:D:D

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

I don't need to correct you. CSSU thumb is described as and is a very experimental thing, at least at the moment.

Reporting that package xyz cannot be installed because you have cssu thumb is, again at this stage, unncessary. You should report programs that DO NOT WORK.

Programs that DO NOT INSTALL because of broken dependencies are a trivial, non-technical, issue to solve (or to ignore :), and flooding this thread with such reports (as it *always* has to happen to every interesting thread in this forum!) is severly annoying.

Don't take it personally. My rant is directed to whoever feels there's something he or she could do to improve this situation.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

@iDont - thumb2 compiled busybox-power is in cssu-thumb repo, didn't check if it is thumb2 compiled though, hope you set the correct flags :P

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

It seems to be working flawlessly, thanks!

And yes, the correct flags have been passed to the compiler:
versus 840.2K used by the non-thumb compiled version.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

i have cssu -T . is it possible to install cssu thumb over cssu -T. i dont wanna flash my phone coz i have nitdroid installed.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

As explained in the first post you can safely install it over testing. In fact, at first you needed to have testing installed to proceed to thumb ;)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

Some good news: finally I was able to thumb-compile a working microb-engine, will try to push a new update tomorrow

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

Thank you for keeping the N900 young

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

I had kernel power v50 before. But since it was consuming about 7Mbs in my root, I decided to remove it according to instruction from Kernel Power wiki:

Then I reinstalled kernel cssu, just in case (according to freemangordon):
But now I get message saying "Package 'kernel-power-settings' not found!" as soon as hildon desktop is loaded. I tried installing kernel-power-settings but is seems to require kernel power v50.

What should I do?

Thanks in advance.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

First lesson :eek: to learn, if you are using experimental stuff like this:
Never use the -y or, even worse; --force-yes option of apt-get while removing or purging packages! Give yourself a decent chance to read, what apt-get will do!

Second lesson: Read the thread, you may not be the only one facing that problem...

The solution is on page 14 of this thread, not too much work ahead ;), either here http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=266 or here http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=276

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

Installed before the weekend, everything went fine - no problems with the procedure. Memory usage is indeed lower and it`s great. Device is faster in basic operations too (like navigating menus, GUI generally) but that`s probably because of the new kernel.
Keep it up and thanks for another great project freeman!

Bug: operator name and signal strength bars are disappearing randomly, most often when unlocking device (via hardware key or "swipe to unlock" gesture) directly to the desktop view.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

i have the weirdest boner right now. So much win.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

Not only you.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

Not much of a help without providing dmesg,syslog and coredump :(. Also do you overclock? Any speedpatch/batterypatch installed?

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

May be not related to your changes at all, see http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ng#post1221780 - after last testing CSSU update some people reported disappearing stuff from status menu and statusbar.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

a bit affraid of installing this but i did it yesterday, so far no troubles what so ever and device sure seems faster..freeman, as always..you rock!tks

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

No overclock, no patch`es.

I`m almost sure, that it`s CSSU-thumb related - I were running latest CSSU-T since day one and had no problems with that indicators. It appeared right after thumb update.

Maybe some bug in open operator name widget?

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

freemangordon.

Don't you think it's now time to start moving KP to CSSU as community Kernel?

At least to CSSU-Devel.

IMHO the Thumb2 experiment is a real success and maintaining so much flavours of CSSU plus combinations of KP and/or community kernel, is going to be a mess.

I'm also concerned that all the development seems to be in the Thumb2 branch these days, so sooner or later a lot of people will move to this "fork" of CSSU.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

What is CSSU-Devel?

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cssu-devel
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As for including KP as part of CSSU, it would be great, but I think that You should forward this request to CSSU maintainers = merlin1991 and MAG.

Unofficial background (warning, presenting story as per my knowledge and view, may contain not 100% precise informations):

It seems that one certain person involved in CSSU testing is obstructing this idea, and maintainers are under his influence, when it comes to this matter. Reasons presented are coming from "good will", but are of rather disputable merit.

/Estel

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

Hi, I don't want to make "doublons" but I can't install CSSU: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=85371
Who can help me, please? :'(

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

@judibet, tell us, what's the problem, we're not telepaths. :D

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

Could you come up with ONE (just one) argument based on not so disputable merit and competence why CSSU *needs* a new kernel? Which of the packages that come with maemo default install and thus don't care about their dependencies by themselves is suffering from a defect in stock kernel?

your wording about "under influence" is rather disrespecting and denigrating the competence and intelligence of those maintainers. If their notion about the topic is more like mine than like yours, they will have chosen this notion based on their own experience (what's your experience and competence/ merit btw? besides being the shortest term council chair ever?). Now when you don't like that fact of merlin1991 and MohammadAG (and several others) agreeing with me about what CSSU should and shouldn't do, please desist from badmouthing active contributing community members like mohammadAG and merlin1991 like that. You actually are lacking any merit for doing that.

/j

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

There is no need for kernel-power to be integrated into cssu, because you could easily install them on your device separately.
If you wish, or stay away if you mind a custom kernel.
This way the user has a wide variety of choices.

There is also no need at all to discuss this in this thread!

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

CSSU and CSSU-thumb actually (should) differ in a compiler option only. So it's irrelevant in which branch development takes place, as one push of a button later the other branch is up to date
Patches so unclean that they can't compile for a non-thumb platform should get rejected anyway, since after all that's linux and we generally try to be good developers that care about trying to upstream their contributions.

/j

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

IMO, cssu doesn't need such an advanced kernel as kp. Omap + thumb patches will be way better for a potential cssu-kernel than a full featured power-kernel.

CSSU is meant to be as official update, so we don't need features like OC and hostmode.

I'm not the best in writing things down, but I think I have made my point ;)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

so is the update already out?
apt-get upgrade doesn't find anything...

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

Unfortunately it is not how it works, some complex SW (like Qt and microb-engine) need patching in order to work (or even to be compiled) with -mthumb.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

So you say you need to patch Qt in a way so it wouldn't compile for ARM anymore, just to make it compile for thumb?
That for sure doesn't sound right.
And how would you update such a massively patched Qt version, in case any newer mainstream Qt comes in?
/j

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

Sure, if you find a maintainer I am all for it. Until then what me and Pali plan is to have only one kernel, which replaces omap1, kernel-power and kernel-cssu, you name it (though most probably it will be kernel-cssu). OC, usbhost and the other stuff are features, not something you are obliged to use.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

Instead of arguing over TMO you may want to check the commits in CSSU Qt thumb-testing branch. That is why thumb-testing branch is.

ITE (pseudo)instructions are ignored in ARM mode, while you MUST have them in thumb mode. And I would not call backported upstream patches consisting of few instructions meaningful only when compiling for thumb a "massively patched Qt version".

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

Now, back to the topic:

thumb2-compiled microb-engine is in the cssu-thumb repo. You won't receive "maemo5 update" as I ran out of time to prepare it, but those of you who feel comfortable with terminal may want to do(as root):


get libgcc_s.so.zip from here http://dox.bg/files/dw?a=3daf095264 and extract the library in "/lib",replacing older version.

apt-get update
apt-get install libnspr4 libnss3 libnss3-certs microb-engine microb-engine-common

OR(if you really know what you're doing)

apt-get update
apt-get upgrade

Reboot the device aferwards.

And I will appreciate if someone posts the apt-get install../upgrade output, especially the line with "xxx bytes of disk space will be freed"

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

Sorry for the not complete output. But after the update of microb-engine i have rebooted my device...
but apt-get says that ~4MiB may be freed

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

3973kB disk space will be freed.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

^This
I was thinking a dirty solution would be for Pali and developers to simply list the dependency of a pseudo-package, "power-capabilities" or something along those lines, so they would work on any custom kernel with these capabilities. Of course that would require repackaging many debs, but your unifying approach is that whole lot more sensible. How would this happen?? Would Pali join CSSU or what route is expected?? If you do unify having a package such as the power-flasher still appear as installed for older packages to work would be smart. Of course, all you people are really smart and have probably thought all of this (or better solutions :) )

As for the features you are right about that, features should be available even if not used, I do not overclock but I would like to know I have a fully capable kernel that can do what I want on a linux-phone as this.

So essentially a very longwinded thanks :) and kudos to the thumb idea and results you are obtaining, as I seem to recall Estel said, this thread is really gold :)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

After installing microbrowser recompiled, I entered a reboot loop. Lovely!
Will restore everything tomorrow, or maybe flash.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 

Did you apt-get upgrade or install?? Those libraries sure do not look like dependencies for a bootable system (I could be wrong though)