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ajalkane 2012-11-24 18:04
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Originally Posted by Makeclick (Post 1297922)
:rolleyes: Sorry, but believe is not a option right here.. watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtEbOGuxuig 3:10 - 4:26. It is very straight.
No, it's not very straightforward. In that video the question was asked how do you handle when there are more applications. And he answered that they want to show them all on the same page. Nowhere did he say that only 4 could be visible.

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Show me video, which one have more than 4 apps running on home screen... Then i believe too.
I'm sorry that I don't have the time to dig up, and watch again all the videos, that I've viewed these past days.

But think for a minute... multitasking has been one of the key advantages Jolla has been touting for their new OS. Does it make any sense that only 4 would be shown? Frankly, it would be idiotic. I'm willing to go on record claiming they're not idiots.

So we'll see a bit later ;).

mariusmssj 2012-11-24 18:06
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Originally Posted by Makeclick (Post 1297922)
:rolleyes: Sorry, but believe is not a option right here.. watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtEbOGuxuig 3:10 - 4:26. It is very straight. Show me video, which one have more than 4 apps running on home screen... Then i believe too.

I do not want to be the party killer. I only try to get all info here :). I try to update the firs page very often, so you can watch all videos there
There we go! 5 Apps running! I am sorry the image is low res but that's the best I can do. In the picture you can see there are 5 apps open and there is space for 4 more!(I highlighted open apps in RED and open spaces in GREEN)

The picture was taken from the SLUSH 2012: Sailfish UI presentation. Specific point is : 14:32

kai_en 2012-11-24 18:12
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I find it too exhausting to prove my point that Sailfish currently can run more than 4 apps on the multitasking pane, it was already made clear in the Slush UI demo video, a little effort from the curious ones to view the video would be more than enough to clear things up

Rauha 2012-11-24 21:24
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW0hn...ature=youtu.be

Question 0:48-0:50 "How many apps are you able to run at the same time"?

Answer 0:51-0:55 "It's optimized for 9 apps at the moment because of the way UI is."




EDIT: mariusmssj's picture two post above mine pretty much shows the "optimized for 9 apps" bit. Room for 9 apps in one view. Propably have to scroll to see more open apps.

Half-Life_4_Life 2012-11-24 21:34
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I would love to buy their first phone.I just want an affordable price :)

I love their startup where everybody got on the stage,so honest and open.

Dave999 2012-11-24 22:04
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Around 200 EUR would be great with low end specs and no keyboard. 500 Euro for a 5" screen with keyboard would be event better. Add a new HD display(1080p) and and make it 600 Euro and we have a deal.

qwazix 2012-11-24 22:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Makeclick (Post 1297815)
How about, when you have over scaled or zoomed pictures and you try to move your screen to full left or right, so you can see whole picture, but it jumps "back".. I think N9 mail showing how pad it can work. If you zoom or you have too big page from mail software. Try to move left or right side of the screen. it always jumps to next or back post..
You swipe on the titlebar only then. Also, about multitasking they said they have minimized duplicate app windows. For example you won't have seperate messaging threads in seperate windows, so that minimizes the number of windows needed to be open compared to the N9.

HELLASISGREECE 2012-11-24 22:37
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qwazix, I want your opinion on this.
It's has to do with appearance.

Anyways, here goes:

Wouldn't be better if ,by swipping an app , the app would be gradually fading out until it's completely gone?

Harmattan has the apps moving away from the screen when swiped. Which is cool. And we all know the effect belongs to Nokia.

Instead of Sailfish just vanishing the app ,imediately, when swiping .. it could (as I said) gradually fading the app. The more the user swipes the app, the more it fades out.

I hope you get me, my english got rusty

*the thing is, the swipe effect on Sailfish, reminds me of Nemo OS.
Which is not that good in this department. eye candy I mean.

*I overused the word "app", I know.

qwazix 2012-11-24 22:53
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@hellasisgreece, it actually vanishes gradually. Maybe in the videos they did it too fast (I didn't watch the videos).

It starts to vanish and the place where it will end up is an empty placeholder until the animation is finished so that you will know where the app will go.

As far as I know the nemo swipe animation is not final either.

HELLASISGREECE 2012-11-24 23:28
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It does? really?
I must say I have to watch the videos again , more carefully this time.

Thanks duder!

veeall 2012-11-25 02:39
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So, i guess, n9s swipe ui is patented thats why they cannot do horizontal swiping to get to running apps view or launcher view. But then, horizontal swipes can take to another page of launcher icons or to additional pages of a running apps, like android or any other ui. If it's not also patented.

Or could launcher and "minimized" apps page be altogether combined, that would be even better, imho. Apps launcher icon (or tile) can behave as live preview and be of double size when app is running but minimized, for example. That would be coolio!

kureyon 2012-11-25 03:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HELLASISGREECE (Post 1297041)
If Nokia is wise, they must buy Jolla eventually (they can even keep the "Jolla" brandname)
That would be the quickest to kill off Jolla.

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Originally Posted by bingomion (Post 1297422)
Not really sure, why they target/focus on China.. makes it feel kinda cheap and is discriminatory!
It's probably the first and so far, only, major market where they've managed to sign up a distributor. It's all very well having a critically acclaimed product but if nobody is selling it then it's not going to bring in the money (808 Pureview, N9?)

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Originally Posted by Sorrow (Post 1297834)
Also, no status-bar? That's bad.
Very bad. I want status bar all the time, or make it optional.

HELLASISGREECE 2012-11-25 04:23
Re: Jolla Sailfish Is stunning! Now on video!
 
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Originally Posted by kureyon (Post 1298046)
That would be the quickest to kill off Jolla..
If it is done with a plan and some kind of vision for the future... it could work.
We should all want a healthy Nokia of the good old days taking Jolla under its wings.

It won't happen though. But I'm just saying.

tissot 2012-11-25 05:31
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China is the world largest smartphone marke and is growing a lot faster than Europe or USA. So you could ask why would some smartphone company not concentrate on China?
In 2-4 years doing great in Chinese smartphone market will alone be enough for any phone manufacturer. China Mobile alone has 654 million subs.

People over at Jolla have likely created ok connections on the Chinese market at their time on Nokia and can utilize it now in Jolla.
As kureyon mentioned they getting largest distributor in China to jump in is testament to that.

HELLASISGREECE 2012-11-25 05:54
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Yep, the future (present I might say) is China.

Next will be the African nations, Brasil, India, etc
huge populations

balisingh 2012-11-25 06:12
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why are all these videos green when i play them?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Makeclick (Post 1296631)
Hi everyone!

Here is latest videos. Hope you like it. I even see little Android head there ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=tRZxM9rNyZ4

Finnish mtv3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHn3q...ature=youtu.be

If you missed this morning's Jolla launch, here it is - Enjoy ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdLUJ...ature=youtu.be

More videos (thanks to: Tissot,)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=_c_BqnR_vAM

Now also official Youtube channel. (Thanks to: Rauha)
http://www.youtube.com/jollaofficial
Sailfish, Why Should You Care? - Interview with Jolla
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9KshXtbfMc

SDK video is the better vid from the launch. (Thanks to: Bingomio)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrwYyN-vNVo&feature=plcp

Jolla Answers Your Sailfish Questions (Thanks to: mariusmssj)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW0hn...ature=youtu.be

UI demo Finnish (Thanks to: mivoligo)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtEbOGuxuig

http://jolla.com/

Hurrian 2012-11-25 08:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kureyon (Post 1298046)
Very bad. I want status bar all the time, or make it optional.
You could use the right-side peek feature to look at the notifications.

This and many other improvements (moving all menus into gestures) are very welcome additions, IMO.

Makeclick 2012-11-25 09:17
Re: Jolla Sailfish Is stunning! Now on video!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1297996)
Around 200 EUR would be great with low end specs and no keyboard. 500 Euro for a 5" screen with keyboard would be event better. Add a new HD display(1080p) and and make it 600 Euro and we have a deal.
What you wlll do with FullHD screen in the phone :D?? and i think 5" is more like a tablet, not a phone... 4" +/-0.1" is good and big battery!

I think, fist model not comes with hw keyboard, but 2nd will? Hope so.

Makeclick 2012-11-25 09:25
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Originally Posted by balisingh (Post 1298065)
why are all these videos green when i play them?
Your OS? Do you have Nvidia card? Nvidia + flash gives blue videos, but i haven't heard something about green videos..

Makeclick 2012-11-25 09:54
Re: Jolla Sailfish Is stunning! Now on video!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tissot (Post 1298063)
China is the world largest smartphone market in the world and is growing a lot faster than Europe or USA. So you could ask why would some smartphone company not concentrate on China?
In 2-4 years doing great in Chinese smartphone market will alone be enough for any phone manufacturer. China Mobile alone has 654 million subs.

People over at Jolla have likely created ok connections on the Chinese market at their time on Nokia and can utilize it now in Jolla.
As kureyon mentioned they getting largest distributor in China to jump in is testament on that.
Jolla has announced, that they try to get Jolla to make phones in Finand, Salo (Heart of Nokia) and Oulu, but fist phones is too expensive to make, so they starting from China. So we have some hope to make good phones again.

Rauha 2012-11-25 10:06
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Originally Posted by Makeclick (Post 1298123)
What you wlll do with FullHD screen in the phone :D??
Screen resolution is the the new Megaherz/Megapixel/Size of tits/Lenght of penis.

Dave999 2012-11-25 10:09
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Seriously guys, please look at a full HD screen beside yours and you see the difference. It now where near the MP madness...

Rauha 2012-11-25 10:13
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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1298146)
Seriously, please look at a full HD screen beside yours and you see the difference. It now where near the MP madness...
Don't have one of those Android phones with 1080p screens next to me, so I can't follow your advice, but full HD for 4-5 inch screen is madness.

Dave999 2012-11-25 10:26
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No its not. Not alone. When it comes to visibility is great. But it must be combined with a great solution of power management.

All highend phones 2013 must have a screen like that.

mikecomputing 2012-11-25 11:43
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Originally Posted by Makeclick (Post 1298141)
Jolla has announced, that they try to get Jolla to make phones in Finand, Salo (Heart of Nokia) and Oulu, but fist phones is too expensive to make, so they starting from China. So we have some hope to make good phones again.
that is just big dreams and will probadly never happen...

mikecomputing 2012-11-25 11:52
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offtopic but what did antisaari at slush? Trying to hire back jolla team to work at wp ui at nokia!? ;)

patlak 2012-11-25 13:25
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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1298157)
No its not. Not alone. When it comes to visibility is great. But it must be combined with a great solution of power management.

All highend phones 2013 must have a screen like that.
And unless it doesn't have a full HD screen, that phone is immediately considered dinosaur, correct? It may have a dslr sensor or shoot flying donkeys as a habit, but the 720p resolution would be "meh."

marxian 2012-11-25 14:13
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1298198)
offtopic but what did antisaari at slush? Trying to hire back jolla team to work at wp ui at nokia!? ;)
He said the first Jolla device will be supported until 2015.

jalyst 2012-11-25 14:55
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Crap, so there's "yet another" Sailfish(Jolla) thread!?
No wonder the two original ones (one off-topic, the other for more in-depth analysis) have been quieter than expected!
I wonder how many others are spread all over the the place >.>
I'll ask the mods to migrate it to the original off-topic thread (or it to this).

kai_en 2012-11-25 14:56
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Technically, this is a Jolla video thread. =P

jalyst 2012-11-25 15:07
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But it's drawn in (or away) far more interesting input than just that, that's the point...
Should just stick to two generic ones; one off-topic, anythings goes*, & the other for more structured/considered input (as outlined in it's 1st few pages).

*that could be this thread or the one I'm linking.

aironeous 2012-11-25 15:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by balisingh (Post 1298065)
why are all these videos green when i play them?
Are you on linux and using an Nvidia graphics card? If so I vaguely remember that it's something about a vdaup issue between flash and Nvidia. I remember googling it and it was like a 2 step thing I typed into terminal to fix it but then some later Nvidia driver update changelog seemed to mention something about it.

Makeclick 2012-11-25 15:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1298146)
Seriously guys, please look at a full HD screen beside yours and you see the difference. It now where near the MP madness...
(1080p) 2073600 pixels on every frame/s! It draw too much power! Even if it's possible.. no way.. I want better battery life.. Video recording 1080p/30 please, but not the screen!

Dave999 2012-11-25 15:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Makeclick (Post 1298261)
(1080p) 2073600 pixels on every frame/s! It draw too much power! Even if it's possible.. no way.. I want better battery life.. Video recording 1080p/30 please, but not the screen!
Great. You have the option to do so. I don't think jolla can afford a highend screen anyway, so the Jolla phone could be dev/fun phone behind your high tech gear. First gen 1080 might have the same battery life as n9 or Jolla if the go mid range.


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Originally Posted by patlak (Post 1298225)
And unless it doesn't have a full HD screen, that phone is immediately considered dinosaur, correct? It may have a dslr sensor or shoot flying donkeys as a habit, but the 720p resolution would be "meh."
Yes, but I'm buying dinosaurs often, they are much cheaper. The only concern I have is if a dinosaur is in the price range of the highend top of the line devices. 720p is enough for Jolla... If they can afford that.

Makeclick 2012-11-25 16:13
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Originally Posted by kai_en (Post 1298250)
Technically, this is a Jolla video thread. =P
:D yep. And maybe this is some sort of video analyse thread too :rolleyes:

Makeclick 2012-11-25 16:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1298256)
But it's drawn in (or away) far more interesting input than just that, that's the point...
Should just stick to two generic ones; one off-topic, anythings goes*, & the other for more structured/considered input (as outlined in it's 1st few pages).

*that could be this thread or the one I'm linking.
I edited the firs page, are you happier? :) Or are you like Hulk on Sunday? http://fabodylous.com/wp-content/upl...Hulk-Diet.jpeg

jalyst 2012-11-25 16:43
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That's cool, I don't mean to disrespect your idea/intent for starting this thread, it just makes sense to consolidate discussion to one or two threads.
But, because it's unlikely that mods will actively consolidate every(most) Sailfish/Jolla thread as it pops-up, carry-on. ;)

mariusmssj 2012-11-25 20:13
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I looked at all the range of NovaThor CPU's (L9540, U9500, L8540, U8540) all seem to be dual-cores. I think it's possible to speculate that Jolla's phone will possibly be a dual-core

Makeclick 2012-11-25 20:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1298285)
That's cool, I don't mean to disrespect your idea/intent for starting this thread, it just makes sense to consolidate discussion to one or two threads.
But, because it's unlikely that mods will actively consolidate every(most) Sailfish/Jolla thread as it pops-up, carry-on. ;)
I am very clad to hear that :)

impact 2012-11-25 20:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by balisingh (Post 1298065)
why are all these videos green when i play them?
Quick solution: Right click the video, go to video settings, disable HW acceleration.


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