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pagesix1536 2009-11-16 17:51
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Do we even know at this point what the reasons were for the insane delay on this. I mean I know it's been published that it was to "fix it" and "make it better", but damn...with this kind of launch delay and dancing around release dates...it better be an insane overhaul on SOMETHING to make Maemo uber.

ninjaboxergirl 2009-11-16 17:56
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we know naathing

argoldst 2009-11-16 18:08
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Well considering the fact that Nokia officially said they started shipping the unit last week, they can't be holding back to "fix it". This is going to be my first Nokia phone/device, and so far I am not getting the best initial impressions from them.

Sad thing is, end users have no clue, retailers have no clue, preferred vendors have no clue, and even nokia themselves seem to have no clue.

But at this point, I think it may be safe to assume that perhaps they were not being honest when they said they started shipping last week.

nuknuk 2009-11-16 18:12
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Not long now .

twoboxen 2009-11-16 18:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by argoldst (Post 378315)
But at this point, I think it may be safe to assume that perhaps they were not being honest when they said they started shipping last week.
Exactly. That date was pure BS to calm the masses and to buy themselves more time it seems. Prove me wrong, Nokia.

RevdKathy 2009-11-16 18:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twoboxen (Post 378324)
Exactly. That date was pure BS to calm the masses and to buy themselves more time it seems. Prove me wrong, Nokia.
Reflect for a moment. Imagine you are going to drive a long way - say 600 miles - and the people at the other end want to know when you'll arrive so they can have a meal ready. How can you predict?

You can give them a vague ballpark, and hope you hit it, but with the uncertainty of traffic, weather, that accident on the m5 and a couple of tractors, the chances are you'll be wide of the mark.

You can make a worst case estimate, give them that and then hang around in the playing park opposite their house till the time you said you'd arrive. (Which is roughly what most manufacturers do - someone has already said that the big release video game recently was preceded by days of it piled up in stores Not For Sale).

Or you can call them up and say "I'm now leaving" and hope they can be mature enough to make a guess about when you'll arrive and be flexible about the possible transport complications.

Which is more or less what Nokia did. Peter's comment was your n900 calling you from Korea and saying "I'm now leaving". I guess it just got stuck behind a tractor somewhere on the High Seas.

Footballdt23 2009-11-16 18:22
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Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssssss delivery van at the door.
ive got mine. yeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssss. the pizza i ordered 5 mins ago here already cant believe it.

kin900 2009-11-16 18:25
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^ LOL what kind of pizza?

meyma 2009-11-16 18:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Footballdt23 (Post 378335)
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssssss delivery van at the door.
ive got mine. yeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssss. the pizza i ordered 5 mins ago here already cant believe it.
It's not a Nokia pizza.

Footballdt23 2009-11-16 18:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kin900 (Post 378341)
^ LOL what kind of pizza?
Meat Feast :D soooo good:D

Nitchers 2009-11-16 18:28
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I go away offshore tomorrow, phone less,and a severe addiction to glue sniffing!

Hang your heads in shame Nokia UK..

Saying that the glue sniffing has past the time.

Footballdt23 2009-11-16 18:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by meyma (Post 378343)
It's not a Nokia pizza.
I eat while i discuss nokia as close as it gets im afraid lol :D

range 2009-11-16 18:39
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by twoboxen (Post 378324)
Exactly. That date was pure BS to calm the masses and to buy themselves more time it seems. Prove me wrong, Nokia.
So they are putting out fake press releases, just to calm down a few people on a board? With nokia being a public company?

So you are basically accusing them of fraud?

Neat one.

dccupp 2009-11-16 18:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kin900 (Post 378341)
^ LOL what kind of pizza?
Is it multitouch?

twoboxen 2009-11-16 18:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by range (Post 378361)
So they are putting out fake press releases, just to calm down a few people on a board? With nokia being a public company?

So you are basically accusing them of fraud?

Neat one.
I'm sorry to have to connect the dots for you...
1. we say we're shipping
2. no one has received a shipment a week later (unless they're bringing back the pony express, SOMEONE should have received it by now)
3. ????
4. fraud!

les_garten 2009-11-16 18:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RevdKathy (Post 378333)
Reflect for a moment. Imagine you are going to drive a long way - say 600 miles - and the people at the other end want to know when you'll arrive so they can have a meal ready. How can you predict?

You can give them a vague ballpark, and hope you hit it, but with the uncertainty of traffic, weather, that accident on the m5 and a couple of tractors, the chances are you'll be wide of the mark.

You can make a worst case estimate, give them that and then hang around in the playing park opposite their house till the time you said you'd arrive. (Which is roughly what most manufacturers do - someone has already said that the big release video game recently was preceded by days of it piled up in stores Not For Sale).

Or you can call them up and say "I'm now leaving" and hope they can be mature enough to make a guess about when you'll arrive and be flexible about the possible transport complications.

Which is more or less what Nokia did. Peter's comment was your n900 calling you from Korea and saying "I'm now leaving". I guess it just got stuck behind a tractor somewhere on the High Seas.
Try as you must, there is no defence for this BS Launch. I just looked outside, there are all these holes in my lawn. Ohh Look, they're full of DROIDS!

HTC?, Apple?, it can be done.

att 2009-11-16 18:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitchers (Post 378347)
I go away offshore tomorrow, phone less,and a severe addiction to glue sniffing!
BTW Do you want to entertain us with what do you do there beside sniffing glue?

Bon voyage.

range 2009-11-16 18:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by les_garten (Post 378375)
Try as you must, there is no defence for this BS Launch. I just looked outside, there are all these holes in my lawn. Ohh Look, they're full of DROIDS!

HTC?, Apple?, it can be done.
Yes, sure. If you keep development and testing completely closed. Would you prefer that? I know I don't.

hypnotik 2009-11-16 18:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by range (Post 378381)
Yes, sure. If you keep development and testing completely closed. Would you prefer that? I know I don't.
That has nothing to do with anything. Nokia should have just waiting until after getting developer feedback before announcing a release timeframe.

sharper 2009-11-16 18:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by range (Post 378381)
Yes, sure. If you keep development and testing completely closed. Would you prefer that? I know I don't.
I have no idea why you're so eager to defend the indefensible. Even at this stage in either a HTC or Motorola product launch the availability date is known. They don't bother to release information as useless as when they ship from their factories (because unsurprisingly nobody cares) but they do tell you when it's showing up in shops.

Laughing Man 2009-11-16 19:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RevdKathy (Post 378333)
Reflect for a moment. Imagine you are going to drive a long way - say 600 miles - and the people at the other end want to know when you'll arrive so they can have a meal ready. How can you predict?

You can give them a vague ballpark, and hope you hit it, but with the uncertainty of traffic, weather, that accident on the m5 and a couple of tractors, the chances are you'll be wide of the mark.

You can make a worst case estimate, give them that and then hang around in the playing park opposite their house till the time you said you'd arrive. (Which is roughly what most manufacturers do - someone has already said that the big release video game recently was preceded by days of it piled up in stores Not For Sale).

Or you can call them up and say "I'm now leaving" and hope they can be mature enough to make a guess about when you'll arrive and be flexible about the possible transport complications.

Which is more or less what Nokia did. Peter's comment was your n900 calling you from Korea and saying "I'm now leaving". I guess it just got stuck behind a tractor somewhere on the High Seas.
It's a good thing the military and companies doing large scale operations don't think like that or they'd be dead in the water. You can give an average prediction based off of accurate estimation and do your best to follow it. If you break down somewhere or get stuck you let someone know to update the prediction.

att 2009-11-16 19:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sharper (Post 378387)
They don't bother to release information as useless as when they ship from their factories (because unsurprisingly nobody cares) but they do tell you when it's showing up in shops.
Investors care.

Fargus 2009-11-16 19:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by att (Post 378396)
Investors care.
Investors care about return on money invested, that's it.

sharper 2009-11-16 19:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by att (Post 378396)
Investors care.
Investors care about revenue. They want to know when the stock will be sold and how much revenue Nokia will book for this quarter.

From reading this and the other thread it seems like a lot customers might not be able to buy until 2010, in the meantime they might just go with a competitor and wait and see if Nokia's next device in 2011 is any good.

theinternet 2009-11-16 19:23
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Nokia(USA) called and canceled my order for me. They said that they changed distributors and all orders need to be canceled. They said that when i get my money back (in 3-5 business days), I should call them and place a new order. I was urged not to worry because I will still be a "priority pre-order customer."

Honestly, im tired of getting dicked around.

Is anyone else experiencing this?

les_garten 2009-11-16 19:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theinternet (Post 378411)
Nokia(USA) called and canceled my order for me. They said that they changed distributors and all orders need to be canceled. They said that when i get my money back (in 3-5 business days), I should call them and place a new order. I was urged not to worry because I will still be a "priority pre-order customer."

Honestly, im tired of getting dicked around.

Is anyone else experiencing this?
Pretty SMOOTH operation over there...

theinternet 2009-11-16 19:32
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Do they really expect me to call back on Friday and order AGAIN?

Regardless...I was wondering if anyone else is having this same issue.

11/(14-17)/09 2009-11-16 19:32
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I sure am glad I did not pay an extra $100 to order through nokiaUSA now....

theinternet 2009-11-16 19:34
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Oh, they said they were taking 15% off of my order and would *not* include my Bluetooth Headset that came with the bundle.

att 2009-11-16 19:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sharper (Post 378404)
Investors care about revenue. They want to know when the stock will be sold and how much revenue Nokia will book for this quarter.
The stock has already been sold from the Nokia's view when they leave the factory.

sadfist 2009-11-16 19:39
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I predict this thread will reach 4,000 before anyone gets an N900 in their hands.

sharper 2009-11-16 19:41
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by att (Post 378435)
The stock has already been sold from the Nokia's view when they leave the factory.
I suspect Nokia has more complete view of their business than simply stuffing their inventory channel. If they're pushing stock out the factory door now that won't be available at retail until after Q4 that's a huge disaster.

ceroberts75 2009-11-16 19:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sadfist (Post 378438)
I predict this thread will reach 4,000 before anyone gets an N900 in their hands.
alright everyone!! post your arse off to get to 4000! :0p

ceroberts75 2009-11-16 19:44
Re: N900 shipping delayed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sharper (Post 378440)
I suspect Nokia has more complete view of their business than simply stuffing their inventory channel. If they're pushing stock out the factory door now that won't be available at retail until after Q4 that's a huge disaster.
uh...here's a tip....we are in the middle of q4! :eek:

11/(14-17)/09 2009-11-16 19:53
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i predict that after it starts shipping, thread will hit 10,000

hypnotik 2009-11-16 20:02
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Or maybe the N900 will suffer the fate of the same fate as Motorola MPX

sharper 2009-11-16 20:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ceroberts75 (Post 378444)
uh...here's a tip....we are in the middle of q4! :eek:
I know and when I heard Nokia had delayed the release I was thinking they'd need quite a slick operation to get the thing out to people in time for Christmas. Since that didn't sound like the Nokia I knew I was also hoping we'd get some sort of hint this wasn't going to be a normal release and we'd actually see some movement with it.

Instead it's the usual story, people devouring blogs/forums/twitter feeds trying to find out what's happening. Multiple conflicting rumours about availability in different regions. Soon some preorders will ship and some of those people will realise they have a hot item and sell it on ebay for a hefty markup.

theinternet 2009-11-16 20:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by olighak (Post 378445)
Really, not kidding? Really? Really? What is this, is Nokia a novice startup company in the cell phone biz?
Yeah, really.

Nitchers 2009-11-16 20:27
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Last Monday was Happy Monday







Then this Monday... Boomtown Rats


Nokia disconnecting people.

nuknuk 2009-11-16 20:31
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Nitchers hold in there dude http://www.nuvement.com/wp-content/u...ft-256x300.jpg


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