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:eek: :confused:
This is the general TMO thread for the F(x)tec Pro1, which is sold with only Android preinstalled!
See also the SailfishOS specific Pro1 thread.

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Although this is true, if you look back in the thread you will see I'm not the only one to find it not always clear.

But perhaps you are correct, this is the "maemo.org > Talk > Devices > Competitors > anything goes area"

But now that I think about the fx is sold with the words "Configure your device with the os you want" .. which includes sailfish ... so I would say it's a draw .. :D

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This was for Android with the Snapdragon application. I assumed it was clear, I'm sorry that it was not.

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xelo, thank you! And no sorry needed, just hope to keep it clear for reading later/archive searches.

Cheers

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Wow, fx pro1 hitting the big leagues!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9uI-XdP8B8

Unfortunately probably not the guy who is gonna love this device. Also needs to make it entertaining.

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All those current critics are from some of a Z generation who doesn't know technological history more than two years back ...

I would leave all of these reviews to their own worth ... Maybe some hipsters will get something from those as long as the icons and emojis are _cool_!

my 5 c...
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Another mail update today :

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So, did as you suggested - LineageOS first :)

Well at first tried the stock. As for me it is mainly a device with physical keyboard, then paid most attention to keyboard use. Unfortunately the qwertz version is not still fully supported. I mean these yellow arrow&characters. Did not find a way to type an õ character. Unfortunately in estonian it is widely used - an example: "õlu" is beer in estonian :p This reminds me my N900 where I had zero problems with german layout and estonian letters...

LineageOS - installation was successfull, but again the german qwertz keyboard use is not still there. It seems that the developer is aware of the problem and it is in his todo list.

SailfishOS - the suggested installation procedure did not work. Was able to flash TWRP, but that did not start - only until splashscreen and got stuck there. Tried to sideload SailfishOS with Lineage recovery but that did not succeed.

The hardware seems to be good or at least satisfactory. Yes, the screen rattles a little. And my Nexus 6 seems to have better screen and camera...

So - back to be box and drawer for now. Or should I put it on sale? :p

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Did you format data partition to remove encryption before installing SailfishOS as in the guide? Which SailfishOS image build did you try?

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Let me get asshurt real quick about that the Pro1's camera software IS ****ING GARBAGE. No autofocus, no shutter sound, and during filming I accidentally kept opening the camera settings which stopped my recording, twice!

I'll take my N900's garbage camera quality above this heap of buggy dogshit any day. Fxtec and Google really dropped the ball on the software side. Can't wait for Maemo-Leste!

tl;dr: Pro1, hardware wise: AWESOME. Software wise: lol 4get about it, stick to a N900 if you dislike buggy, non-user friendly software.

EDIT: If you haven't already, install Open Camera. It's miles better than the stock Snapdragon Camera: https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...rge.opencamera

Thanks to netman for the recommendation!

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Wasmachinemann-NL, what makes you think that Maemo-leste will be better? Also glade that the open camera is working better. Btw it was one of the major issue that Linus tech guy had with the fx.

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Android is the most non-userfriendly OS I ever used, and i'm not new to Android having dualbooted it on my Xperia X1 back in 2010.

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I ain't bricking my Pro1 just yet because the camera app is garbage lol

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Why bricking? It's more useful than a brick in many ways.

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'you're not new, dual booted 10 years ago!?
LOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLLL

A decade ago?! You have no idea how much different Android is nowadays. It's still far superior than Sailfish OS. So many things are STILL missing.
Example: Sailfish OS still doesn't have proper copy paste function: Selecting something on SFOS auto copies the text (lol what?!)
It also STILL doesn't have the option to resize the app screen for (TRUE) multitasking....

here is a nice screenshot of my multitasking view on my Samsung S8+ that is 3 years old now ;)

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LOLOLOLOLOLL seems like you missed the point (again). That's pity because it seems like you really spent some time doing that.

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tl;dr
install Sailfish on Pro1, you can always go back to Android


O yeah.

Get some popcorn!
The glibc/Android Linux war is starting again? :D

Having tested Android in v2 on N900 (or similar, do not remember) the first time it was a waste of time. Then lollypop? on N9 it was already evolved.
But now (on business Samsung in v9) it is really a full OS.

But I do not like it and keep my private one on SFOS.

Two apps simultaneously on a hand-sized screen is not multi-tasking.
Android cannot read (nor write) a Linux formatted ext4 SD card! :eek:
You are doomed to G**gle

Shame is that nowadays you need some Android/Apple device for banking already. Or carry another TAN generator with you. And I am afraid I also have one bank that relies only on that sh*t.

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Luckily in Finland it is still possible to get either TAN dongle or paper TAN list from all banks I know of, gratis.

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A ... :eek:, I am no little impressed!

No irony intended, I do always favour alternatives for anything imposed. As such, low- to even "no-tech" options often make me :D ...

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In defence of Wasmachinemann-NL.
Do remember that Chenliang Chen did urge us to first extensively use the Pro1 with Android before switching to SFOS :D. (Something I really dread doing once I do receive my Pro1. :o)
Additionally, Android does deliver *far* more than SFOS on at least anything GUI-candied.

Side remark, from an avid FOSS and SFOS user.
Being in some sense free, one can nowadays claim Android to be even more FOSS-friendly than (the official) SFOS, not?

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Like when Google engineers explain that the UI is designed for keeping the users using their smartphones during the most time possible for any tasks ?

Anyway, OS preferences are like religions or politic stuff. Everybody has their own preferences, which are personnals. No need to have exagerated reactions like you have everytime someone has a different opinion.

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Just for forum members also here: try GCam Ports
Using that software, Pro1 can take really awesome photos.
The difference is huge compared to stock application and even much better than OpenCamera.

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Might be a stupid question but do they (Gcam ports) support physical shutter button?

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Seems that they don't. The focus ring appears when the shutter button is pressed half way but when it is pressed to the bottom the Snapdragon camera is started.

Also the ports don't have an option to set the default image location to the memory card which is quite annoying. "There is an app for that" but...

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Pretty good write up with only one big mistake, in saying that sailfish is a custom form of android. Other then that it was a pretty fair.

For those that don't see fx twitter feed, https://eandt.theiet.org/content/art...o1-smartphone/

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Hello everyone. Anyone canceled the order and got the money back? I tried to get refund for several reasons. I got a mail to confirm and was asked to explain. Since then nothing happened. That was at the beginning of February.
I never got the phone. Order is still in status process.

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Would suggest to try again. With the chinese new year mixed with corona virus closing factory and such has probably caused a lot of problems plus a flood of mails.

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I work for Helsinki city and just got an email that all phone deliveries are delayed by the supplier and it may take four months to get new phones. So the situatioln is affecting everyone.

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In case [pun intended] you haven't seen this already: https://community.fxtec.com/topic/28...rt-case-cover/
Didn't try because I haven't got flip cover for my Pro1, but sure it looks interesting.

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Now I have had some more experience with the Gcam port and I have noticed some more annoyances. For example the framerate options don't do anything. Even if I set the framerate to 60 the recorded videos are 30 frames per second. Also slow motion option records normal video. A port made specifically for Pro1 would probably fix these. However, I have not heard that anyone would be working on this. It is a pity because the sensor appears to be high quality and optics decent but the image processing of default Snapdragon camera is horrific and Gcam is lacking features.

The video quality of GCam is superior compared to Snapdragon camera, especially in low light.

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I did that. They made excuses and said that the management should decide. You put me off again. The deadline they set has now been passed for a week.
I had cancelled my order long before the Corona crisis due to the desolate communication strategy. I am very disappointed. I congratulate all those who were lucky enough to receive the device. But I would not expect too much service.

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I did that. They made excuses and said that the management should decide. They put me off again. The deadline they set has now been passed for a week.
I had cancelled my order long before the Corona crisis due to the desolate communication strategy. I am very disappointed. I congratulate all those who were lucky enough to receive the device. But I would not expect too much after sales service.

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Last Pro¹ production update (received yesterday) :

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There should be something like a counter for community members who already have there FXtec pros. I'd guess it at about a dozen right now? Still lots of pre-orders not shipped, I'm guessing?

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I feel like that could be done with a poll at the start of this thread.

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Is there any way to limit the available screen rotations?

Like every SFOS device I've had, the rotation options from the UI are horizontal, vertical or auto.

Very minor problem is the grand scheme, but one minor annoyance I've had with the Pro1 is there isn't much in the way of visual cues of the physical orientation when picking it up. A number of times I've answered the phone, only to find I'm holding it upside down. Obviously I could turn of rotation, but that makes using the keyboard a bit of a faff.

If it were possible to limit available rotations to 0deg and 90deg, it might be a useful hack. Alternatively turn off the rotation, except when the keyboard is open? In fact, that might be a better option for me.

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There is a patch that allows screen rotation except upside-down portrait:
https://openrepos.net/content/alina/...ailfishos-apps

Would that be any good?

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Thanks for that Pichlo, I had missed that one.

It works sometimes, but it seems easy to catch it out.
I was imagining there would be some simple rotation script somewhere on the device that could be hacked about.

It seems that even being locked up at home, I haven't found the time to dig into the inner workings of the SFOS UI. Must try harder :-)

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Yes!

I'd also like to know if anyone has succesfully canceled their order and received their money back. I've been waiting for 1,5 months for now... (Not to say I don't support this endeavour but this corona-stuff kind of changed my financial situation)