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Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles

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Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1211256)

The downward trend began before Elop. Competition got too tough for Nokia to survive. Windows is not a bad choice, except that Symbian is disappearing faster than originally thought. Ordinary people don't read what CEOs blabber, they go and buy best devices in the shop. Symbian was a big loser and Nokia board new it and saw precipitous drops in figures before hiring Elop. They didnt act fast enough . Too complacent.

an analysis of the high WP sale:http://communities-dominate.blogs.co...er-bs-sto.html

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Originally Posted by cheve (Post 1215602)

an analysis of the high WP sale:http://communities-dominate.blogs.co...er-bs-sto.html

that NOKIA China exe ("COO"...) suffers the same tunnel vision as Flop... only wp7 (out-)sells (everything else) and we ("NOKIA") have to stop immediately manufacturing or selling or even thinking anything else :@
whenever they see NOKIA sales figures, they think Lumia sales... brain dead :mad:

from the rustling leaves one might wonder whether 808 PV is going to outsell the 1st month all Lumia devices sales since the line was introduced... ¦-)))))

but the N9 without any marketing support is probably even outselling Lumias, thus... no feat, alas :(

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Google Files Complaint in Europe Against Microsoft, Nokia

floppy is going to get reformated >¦-)

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The complaint focuses on a transfer Nokia and Microsoft made last year of some 2,000 patents and patent applications to Mosaid Technologies Inc., a Canadian company known for its patent litigation, said Jim Prosser, a spokesman for Google. Most of the patents relate to industry standards for wireless technology, and Microsoft has publicly pledged it wouldn’t use such patents to block competitors from the market.

“Nokia and Microsoft are colluding to raise the costs of mobile devices for consumers, creating patent trolls that side- step promises both companies have made,” Mountain View, California-based Google said in an e-mailed statement, using a pejorative term for companies that use patents only to demand royalties rather than to make products.

“They should be held accountable, and we hope our complaint spurs others to look into these practices,” Google said.

Microsoft and Nokia get a share of any proceeds Mosaid raises from licensing the patents.

Google’s complaint may prompt an investigation by the same European Union antitrust authority that is probing Google’s Motorola Mobility over its use of so-called standard-essential patents in litigation against Microsoft and Apple Inc. The EU investigations were triggered by complaints by those two companies.

’Frivolous’ Complaint

A copy of Google’s complaint wasn’t available.

Antoine Colombani, a spokesman for the European Commission in Brussels, confirmed that regulators had received the filing and said they would examine it.

Nokia hasn’t yet seen the “frivolous” complaint, Mark Durrant, a spokesman for Nokia, said in an e-mailed statement. Nokia has made several patent divestments over the past five years and has transferred any commitments for standard-essential patents to the acquirer while existing licenses for the patent continue, he said.

“Had Google asked us, we would have been happy to confirm this, which could then have avoided them wasting the commission’s time and resources,” Durrant said. “Google’s suggestion that Nokia and Microsoft are colluding on intellectual property rights is wrong. Both companies have their own IPR portfolios and strategies and operate independently.”

Nokia had been the world’s largest handset manufacturer, only to see its market share eroded by competition from Apple’s iPhone and devices that run on Google’s Android operating system. Last year, Espoo, Finland-based Nokia agreed to switch from its own Symbian and Meego operating systems to Microsoft’s Windows Phone platform.

Companies get together to establish standards so that products can work together, such as for Wi-Fi, video compression or digital transmissions. Those that help establish the standards pledge to license their patents on fair and reasonable terms.

Dueling Claims

Redmond, Washington-based Microsoft has criticized Motorola Mobility, which Google acquired earlier this month, for its use of standard-essential patents to seek orders that would block sales of Microsoft’s products. The software maker is awaiting a judge’s ruling on claims Motorola Mobility breached its obligations.

Patents have become a central weapon in the global battle over market share for smartphones and tablet computers, with billions of dollars being spent to buy patents, and lawsuits being filed across four continents.

Earlier this month, Nokia filed patent-infringement complaints in the U.S. and Germany against HTC Corp. (2498) over its Android phones and against ViewSonic Corp., which makes tablet computers that run on Android.

Mosaid hasn’t seen Google’s complaint and so couldn’t comment, said Michael Salter, a Mosaid spokesman. The company was taken private in December in a transaction led by Chicago- based Sterling Partners.

Mosaid’s Core Wireless unit, which holds the patents obtained from Microsoft and Nokia, filed a patent suit in February against Apple over some of the standard-essential patents.

Mosaid sold five patent families for $11 million in September. Google was later identified as the buyer.

Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles

http://dazzwireless.com/wp-content/p...-story-top.jpg
Elop: "What was that? Google's reported us to the governing bodies for collusion?"

http://www.n-tv.de/img/35/3545201/O_...80_RTXXQ6T.jpg
Elop: "Trust us! We would never do that! Microsoft's success has never been based on such flagrant violations of ethics!"
Balmer: [thinking, "WTF??"]

Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles

What do YOU think Microsoft will do to Nokia? ;)
I't s like Microsoft birds, watching over the Nokia car!
Once Elop is done pretending to wash it up and finally walks away...
http://i.imgur.com/SUSwT.gif

Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles

From this excellent article:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/mosl...-end-line.htm:

‘Our influence on the first Windows Mobile devices is limited,’ admits Mark Squires, communications director at Nokia UK.

‘But we’re already putting little Nokia bits in. For the next update in 2012 you will see tight integration of Nokia and Microsoft – our hardware and services – for something quite unique.’

A couple of weeks ago Nokia finally unveiled its new N9 smartphone. The device is to run MeeGo – what would have been Nokia’s replacement for Symbian before the Windows Mobile deal was inked in. In a sign of the times, MeeGo, the operating system thousands of Nokia engineers worked on, wasn’t even mentioned in the press conference or press release that heralded the N9’s arrival.

Instead, three days later, Elop showed off the N9’s successor – the first Nokia Windows Mobile, codenamed Sea Ray. At the public unveiling, he very halfheartedly asked reporters to put cameras and mobiles in their pockets, but of course they didn’t – with the happy result that pictures and reports were online in seconds.

Meanwhile, David Potter can only look back ruefully and reflect on what might have been for Symbian.

‘I believe a great opportunity was missed for Symbian with Nokia to have led the smartphone market into the future,’ he says.

Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles

don't know whether one should feel glad or sorry...

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In 2012 the Finnish mobile phone maker's chief executive earned 4.33 million euros in compensation, down from 7.94 million euros a year earlier, reveals Nokia's filing with the US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) on Thursday.

Elop's pay cut reflects Nokia's losing smartphone market share to rivals Samsung and Apple.

His base salary rose by 59,500 euros to 1.08 million euros while stock and option awards fell slightly. He did not earn a bonus, according to the regulatory filing.

Elop was hired in 2010 from Microsoft to help turn Nokia around.

In its report to the SEC, Nokia said it expected to receive more royalties from its partner Microsoft this year than it pays to the company.

(from http://yle.fi/)

glad 'cuz the *****'s pay check fell :D
sorry 'cuz NOKIA's sales are going down :( & that incompetent idiot still gets anything :mad:

o well, soon NOKIA will only be a logo on our beloved N900s & all, anyway...

Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles

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Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1328601)

In its report to the SEC, Nokia said it expected to receive more royalties from its partner Microsoft this year than it pays to the company.

Not so.

http://allthingsd.com/20130124/after...aying-redmond/

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The interesting part is that Nokia says that, after initially getting more from Microsoft than it pays, Nokia’s commitment to Microsoft is now more than the remaining amount that it can expect to get from the software maker.
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So, to recap, Nokia has bet the business on Windows Phone. After getting a pile of money initially, it now owes Microsoft more than it can expect to get. And Microsoft might be doing a competing Windows Phone of its own.

And it is assumed, Nokia is Microsoft's slave still two years due to the contract. I wonder if Nokia can survive alive at all till the end of it to choose Android, Jolla or Tizen.

Re: Nokia CEO Blames Salesmen For Windows Phone Struggles

Tizen's not an option. Neither is Firefox OS. WebOS... well dream on. Jolla is most likely going to be close sourced, or not open enough for Nokia to take over.

Harmattan would be the next best option, but its too far, too little and too late.
The only way Nokia would be able to be able to "break even" in this ecosystem war is if they partnered up with a loser like Blackberry.

While BB's a current "loser", they do have something innovative to share with the world and it has struck interest. BB however doesn't have the reach and marketing its competitors hold. Nokia on the other hand have what it takes to reach the market and a penetrative marketing ability. Yet they lack the innovation to show.

I doubt an understanding between Nokia and BB could be established.

So Nokia's efforts again come back to a decision of sticking with Windows Phone (and low sales), or try to join the Android Army with the risk of becoming a mee-too or also-ran competitor.

Just look at SONY and their first Android phone, The SONY Xperia Z. A luxury brand not able to meet the expectations of "low quality" HTC, LG, Samsung competition.