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ARJWright 2009-06-11 02:40

Re: N900 compared to iPhone v3, Palm Pre, N97
 
typing this on my 5800xm as its connected to my tv; cincinnati bell is the only usa carrier to offer mobilex such as the 5800xm on contract and with subsidy and the os in those is not touched. Its more than possible for nokia to do well with carriers, carriers need to play by the same rules with all manufacturers.

Thesandlord 2009-06-11 03:53

Re: N900 compared to iPhone v3, Palm Pre, N97
 
N900, Pre, and 3GS are all CortexA8 (600mhz?) with 256 MB RAM and PowerVR graphics. Its going to be down to the software... Too hard to choose...

N97 = Fail

qole 2009-06-11 04:09

Re: N900 compared to iPhone v3, Palm Pre, N97
 
What really interests me is the fact that the pre and the N900 might even be interchangeable when it comes to software... We very well might be able to hack Maemo onto the Pre and WebOS onto the N900...

GeneralAntilles 2009-06-11 04:16

Re: N900 compared to iPhone v3, Palm Pre, N97
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 295517)
We very well might be able to hack Maemo onto the Pre and WebOS onto the N900...

Good luck getting Hildon down to 480x320.

Thesandlord 2009-06-11 05:05

Re: N900 compared to iPhone v3, Palm Pre, N97
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 295517)
What really interests me is the fact that the pre and the N900 might even be interchangeable when it comes to software... We very well might be able to hack Maemo onto the Pre and WebOS onto the N900...

WebOS runtime + Dalvik Runtime + GarnetVM + Maemo System = (EPIC WIN) ^ 400000

Ultimate smartphone

Architengi 2009-06-11 05:28

Re: N900 compared to iPhone v3, Palm Pre, N97
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thesandlord (Post 295537)
>> Originally Posted by qole

>> What really interests me is the fact that the pre and the N900 might even be interchangeable when it comes to software...
>> ...hack the Pre and WebOS onto the Maemo N900...


WebOS runtime + Dalvik Runtime + GarnetVM + Maemo System = (EPIC WIN) ^ 400000

Ultimate smartphone

Is there a VM for Symbian on Maemo?

Because Symbian is OPEN SOURCE (not like WebOS) and it has an emulator for Windows - it is a Symbian VM where the developers can run Symbian apps like on the phone
- because Symbian goes open source, I think also the emulator code will be OPEN - so it can be adjusted for Maemo

There are more than 50 millions of Symbian users, I don't know others would say about this, but I would be more than interested to be able to keep my investment in the Symbian apps I already made, more than happy to be able to run Symbian apps on N900 Maemo.

knikkane 2009-06-11 09:23

Re: N900 compared to iPhone v3, Palm Pre, N97
 
What is also interesting is that the 3GS will will update the GPU from MBX to SGX. How they will utilize it is at least open for me but in theory it should bring a lot more raw processing power to the graphics side.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thesandlord (Post 295512)
N900, Pre, and 3GS are all CortexA8 (600mhz?) with 256 MB RAM and PowerVR graphics. Its going to be down to the software... Too hard to choose...

N97 = Fail


lma 2009-06-11 09:38

Re: N900 compared to iPhone v3, Palm Pre, N97
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Architengi (Post 295541)
Because Symbian is OPEN SOURCE

It will be, but isn't yet. It also seems that the open source version that will be eventually released is going to be somewhat different to what exists on actual devices today.

Quote:

and it has an emulator for Windows - it is a Symbian VM where the developers can run Symbian apps like on the phone
It's not quite an emulator in the traditional sense. It's a separate target platform (it runs IA-32 binaries and is neither binary nor source-level compatible) and you have to explicitly compile your app for it (using a different compiler which is unlikely to be open sourced).

Bottom line: it's very unlikely that existing binaries will run on Symbian^2 at all.

Quote:

this, but I would be more than interested to be able to keep my investment in the Symbian apps I already made
Just out of curiosity, what kind of apps are you talking about?

Architengi 2009-06-11 15:59

Re: N900 compared to iPhone v3, Palm Pre, N97
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lma (Post 295585)
It will be open, but isn't yet. It also seems that the open source version that will be eventually released is going to be somewhat different to what exists on actual devices today.

Bottom line: it's very unlikely that existing binaries will run on Symbian^2 at all.

So Symbian^2 and the today's N97 Symbian^0.6 (s60 v5) will have the applications incompatible? :confused: Why? :eek:

abject 2009-06-11 16:11

A Key Feature Overlooked?
 
Erm... Am I the only one who views it as a key differentator that the N900 does not exist, while you can actually buy the other 3 and use them to, say, make phone calls and stuff?

Just saying...


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