Originally Posted by krk969 (Post 389685)

megacrazy, not that i dont want to believe what you say, but would you mind posting a small video about the scrolling being jerky and the browser staggering when music player is running in the background.

That would stop this thread from running into 1000 pages without any facts being put.

And, i agree with you that this phone doesnt do anything different from the competition except for the open source concept.

Things like widgets and multiple desktops have been marketed like its the first thing we have ever seen on phones, we all know it isnt true.

Will wait to see some more facts, meanwhile if you could get the videos for us please.

thanks

Originally Posted by Bratag (Post 389671)

Thats not what I said. I said comparing a device that was never intended for the general public to a iPhone which was intended for every drone in the world is not a valid comparison. By your logic I can rip the iPhone a new one because I cant

1) Cross compile apps to work on it
2) Get root access with a single sudo command
3) Run my own apache server on and serve web pages from it.
4) Run and FTP server on it
5) Connect a wii remote to it and play SNES games
6) Play Quake III on it.

I mean I could go on and on - but 99% of drones dont care about that stuff and thus the iphone does "pretty" the N900 does "awesome"

Originally Posted by Megacrazy (Post 389688)

Exactly.

To answer other questions I am not a troll. The review I posted is the what the average consumer will say. Who cares if it can run Open Office it can't scroll smoothly in the damn browser? It's called user experience and Nokia should look it up.

Clearly this device is made by geeks for other geeks but this has little relevance in the market. If you want to sell a phone/tablet/whatever the hell it is get ready to be compared to....the iPhone. The iPhone doesn't do many things because a lot of them simply aren't feasible on a mobile platform with little processing power and a very limited battery. However, everything else it does is basically perfect/almost perfect.

I love how Nokia keeps trying to avoid comparisons because they know there is none...No, this is a mobile tablet with phone functionality. WTF does that mean? You mean it's a smartphone like every other phone out there but you don't want it compared. They tried to pull the same BS with their N series mobile computer stuff.

Also, the point of this all is that all of us should start demanding better software from them. If they can't do it then get out and let somebody else try it. Attitudes such as "it's only step 4 out of 5, it's a tablet not a phone, it just came out" etc. is exactly what they strive on. They need to understand that they do not set any benchmarks anymore but the market does.

Last time I checked Android is up to version 2 and it already kicks all sorts of ***. How come Maemo 5 is finding all sorts of excuses for missing functionality, crappy scrolling and poor user experience?

Originally Posted by Bratag (Post 389671)

Thats not what I said. I said comparing a device that was never intended for the general public to a iPhone which was intended for every drone in the world is not a valid comparison. By your logic I can rip the iPhone a new one because I cant

1) Cross compile apps to work on it
2) Get root access with a single sudo command
3) Run my own apache server on and serve web pages from it.
4) Run and FTP server on it
5) Connect a wii remote to it and play SNES games
6) Play Quake III on it.

I mean I could go on and on - but 99% of drones dont care about that stuff and thus the iphone does "pretty" the N900 does "awesome"

Originally Posted by Bratag (Post 389366)

No I would walk around the car first and make sure I was getting what I thought I was getting. There have been dozens and dozens of demo vids posted before the phone came out. If you jumped on thinking it would be an iphone killer then you are an idiot, the phone was never touted as that. The lack of apps has LONG been known, creating a playlist has already been explained.

I bid $350

Originally Posted by f pickels (Post 389743)

Point is this, every other Phone Company solved all these problems years ago. And None of them specially Apple released a phone or operating system that was in development. Nokia is the biggest phone maker in the world. you would think they might be able to make a phone/operating system that was atleast as good as a three year old device/system. And to leave out basic features and compatibilities for the end user to solve, thats just a pitty. The N900 has not been marketed as project. It has been released as an end user finished product. and it seems more and more it is falling short.

And a side note, when I first started looking at this site, community. I was very impressed, people trying to help,solve, create. Yet them more I read the more I see a bunch of self serving bitter people that think they no it all, and do nothing but rag, criticize, demean any opinion that differs from their own. Or when any question is asked that they think is beneath them.. If this is really what Maemo is about , Tradgic. And this is going to be a shot lived project.

Originally Posted by f pickels (Post 389743)

And a side note, when I first started looking at this site, community. I was very impressed, people trying to help,solve, create. Yet them more I read the more I see a bunch of self serving bitter people that think they no it all, and do nothing but rag, criticize, demean any opinion that differs from their own. Or when any question is asked that they think is beneath them.. If this is really what Maemo is about , Tradgic. And this is going to be a shot lived project.

Originally Posted by Bratag (Post 389752)

I have two expectations from this phone

1) I can make and receive phone calls
2) It runs Linux